[Debate] Eating Veal is bad? Hypocrites?

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I do agree those who say eating meat is bad are hypocrites...everybody is a hypocrite in some way...that is no reason for you to say they are idiots because you just become another hypocrite by judging them who judged you

I dont eat meat...but not for the purpose of telling others that i am doing a good thing and that i am better because of it....but only because i feel it's wrong and i dont want to be a part of it...and i am pretty sure i wasnt a part of killing native americans


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Ummm in no way is eating animals unethical. Dude they eat each other. xD They exist solely to keep the circle of nature going. Besides most animals that are eaten have been modified as a special breed especially for that. By this I mean pigs, cows, chicken etc. Animals aren't aware of their existence. They don't have reasoning nor a soul. They just live to eat and get eaten. Killing animals is not the same as killing people. The only way in wich it's not ethical is if it's done to an endangered species wich is necessary to keep the cycle going. Tormenting animals is a different story since they do feel pain. If you're gonna eat them kill them without them feeling a thing... u.u I don't mind if anyone is a vegeterian. My best friend is a vegetarian and we get along fine. They don't want to eat them because they like animals alive. But it is a problem to them because since they don't eat meat they don't get enough proteins and other stuff necessary so they have to take some pills or other unnatural food to strengthen their organism. But hey it might just be that they have some other health issues. Anyway people meat is important. Eat it if you want to be strong. n.n

Lol one stupid myth after another....i guess you havent even spent one second with an animal in your entire life....if you had you would know they have feelings and a soul...they can be your friends,can feel jealous,sad,angry..how are these not the qualities of soul?try taking a baby animal from any animal and you will see whether they have feelings or not....as for being unhealthy and not having enough protein....i havent eaten meat in five years...i am a bodybilder and wasnt ill for five years....i am healthier than ever and i dont need any pills
 

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Lol one stupid myth after another....i guess you havent even spent one second with an animal in your entire life....if you had you would know they have feelings and a soul...they can be your friends,can feel jealous,sad,angry..how are these not the qualities of soul?try taking a baby animal from any animal and you will see whether they have feelings or not....as for being unhealthy and not having enough protein....i havent eaten meat in five years...i am a bodybilder and wasnt ill for five years....i am healthier than ever and i dont need any pills

Ok if anything is stupid than it's your judgement on my post. For starters I have a pet. A dog. I had a bird and a fish before that. I love animals but they do NOT have reasoning. They act on their instincts. I didn't say they didn't have feelings. As a matter of fact I did state they FEEL pain. As for you being a body builder I highly doubt it but I said it may not be like that for every person. You obiously didn't read my post with attention. As I said I have no problem with vegeterians. It's nice they love animals same as humans but a fact is a fact. Animals exist just for the balance of nature. Humans taking them as pet is a different story. Why dodge that point?
 

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Ok if anything is stupid than it's your judgement on my post. For starters I have a pet. A dog. I had a bird and a fish before that. I love animals but they do NOT have reasoning. They act on their instincts. I didn't say they didn't have feelings. As a matter of fact I did state they FEEL pain. As for you being a body builder I highly doubt it but I said it may not be like that for every person. You obiously didn't read my post with attention. As I said I have no problem with vegeterians. It's nice they love animals same as humans but a fact is a fact. Animals exist just for the balance of nature. Humans taking them as pet is a different story. Why dodge that point?

the only problem i have with your post is that you state these stupid myths as facts.....no where in hell is it a fact that animals dont have a soul...the same goes for reasoning....same goes for not eating meat...you cant state it as an absolute fact that it is not good for you especially as you are talking to the prime example of the opposite....also,why would i lie?just to prove myself on some internet forum?lol i just want people to realize that it's a myth and eating meat is not neccessary at all....
 

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It's cool and all if that's your belief....anyway everybody believes their own thing....it's just that your way of stating it like a fact threw me off...i'm sorry for saying it's stupid and judging you for not being with an animal before....i respect your opinion but i dont believe it to be true myself....we all believe differently so we shouldnt judge each other and call each other stupid just because of different opinions.once again i'm sorry
 

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I do agree those who say eating meat is bad are hypocrites...everybody is a hypocrite in some way...that is no reason for you to say they are idiots because you just become another hypocrite by judging them who judged you

I dont eat meat...but not for the purpose of telling others that i am doing a good thing and that i am better because of it....but only because i feel it's wrong and i dont want to be a part of it...and i am pretty sure i wasnt a part of killing native americans


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1) If you live in America, you are living off the forced sacrifices of the Native Americans.

2) If you eat meat, you are living off the forced sacrifices of animals.


You are indirectly a part of it in either scenario.

You don't have to kill Native Americans to benefit from their deaths. You benefit by conciously using the taken land.

You also don't have to kill animals to benefit from their deaths. You benefit by conciously eating them.


To accept the second and not the first is unfair.
Especially since murder of humans is a far more evil act.

Not saying there is something wrong with living in America or eating meat. But we shouldn't chose wich is right
 
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the only problem i have with your post is that you state these stupid myths as facts.....no where in hell is it a fact that animals dont have a soul...the same goes for reasoning....same goes for not eating meat...you cant state it as an absolute fact that it is not good for you especially as you are talking to the prime example of the opposite....also,why would i lie?just to prove myself on some internet forum?lol i just want people to realize that it's a myth and eating meat is not neccessary at all....
You're saying I can't state something is a fact but you can? Cool story. Not gonna waste more time here.
 

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I'm just living life the way I was brought into this world. Forming my own views own life and how I want to live it.
Same with other people,but how are they hypocrites for something that happened 200+ years ago?
At some point in the past every land around the world was "taken" from a tribe,etc. Should we shame ourselves for living on "stolen" land?
Where else our we supposed to live then?
This world is getting over populated by humans ....maybe we should start sharing land.... hmm
 

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I'm just living life the way I was brought into this world. Forming my own views own life and how I want to live it.
Same with other people,but how are they hypocrites for something that happened 200+ years ago?
At some point in the past every land around the world was "taken" from a tribe,etc. Should we shame ourselves for living on "stolen" land?
Where else our we supposed to live then?
This world is getting over populated by humans ....maybe we should start sharing land.... hmm

So? Every time someone lectures me about how eating meat is unethical, I tell them that living on stolen land is unethical.

happening 200 hundred years ago doesn't change the fact that it still happened does it?
 

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Veal? How horrible!

I only eat baby people, at least they're raised in a healthy environment. #PETA
 

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So? Every time someone lectures me about how eating meat is unethical, I tell them that living on stolen land is unethical.

happening 200 hundred years ago doesn't change the fact that it still happened does it?

Eating meat and stolen land are two different things though.

Yes it happened but those people that caused it are long gone. You can't tell someone that came into the world and are innocent that they should shame themselves for living on stolen land. They have nowhere else to go, especially those that don't have money to move.

Now if person just moved on to a land,which just been stolen by him or her,then another person took it from them thus start to say its wrong then that would make him or her a hypocrite.

It happened in the past,but remember it and don't let it happen again to anyone in the present.
 

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Not sure what 'veal' means. Your argument is both funny and confusing though.
 

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Eh. Without sounding like an unethical douche, I've eaten veal, and it's delicious.

You can't argue that one animal's life is more important than another's. They're equal. You either give up eating animals entirely, or none at all. It's not really possible to meet a moral middle ground with these matters. xD if eating one animal is wrong, eating all animals is wrong. If you can make excuses for eating one type of animal, you should be making those excuses for all types of animals.
 
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