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What's original about Sarada's - "I want to be hokage" and her character development began at "where is my papa everything sucks" and ended with "there is my papa everything is great".
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Even freaking Madara :lol

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A Main Character wanting to be Hokage is one thing, but almost all important/side and Uchiha characters trying to be Hokage. It's just weird.

I don't find anything interesting about a character wanting to be Hokage anymore. I'd rather carve my eyes out.

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Not really, the Uchiha have generally played a villainous part and there's a lot of stigma attached to them. By journeying, overcoming, making people accept, regaining trust of the people etc, from the Uchiha trying to destroy the world to saving it allows room for massive character development and plot potential/avenues.
Obito's experiences flowed into Naruto and the alliance during the tug of war. And it clear that Sasuke has been pardoned after lifting the Tsukuyomi (as ridiculous as that was). Plus the war was also about differences within the villages and they resolved all that.

Sasuke lives with peace with the other kages. There is no stigma. If anything Sarada is a mini celebrity like Part 1 Sasuke because of uchiha surname.

Also are you saying that the only thing Sarada can offer hinges on previous half a dozen main characters who were uchiha?

Where does Sarada say the crap you've come out with?
The whole Gaiden.

your mistaking her for Burito who's knock of dry clone of Naruto, from I hate my dad and want to beat him to dad's the best. Let's TNJ everybody and use SCJ it'll resolve everything.
I thought Boruto was hated because he is too different from Naruto? Make up your mind.
 

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Obito's experiences flowed into Naruto and the alliance during the tug of war. And it clear that Sasuke has been pardoned after lifting the Tsukuyomi (as ridiculous as that was). Plus the war was also about differences within the villages and they resolved all that.
Pardoned by the kage not by the people who lost family members etc.

Sasuke lives with peace with the other kages. There is no stigma. If anything Sarada is a mini celebrity like Part 1 Sasuke because of uchiha surname.
The Uchiha name makes everybody's celebrity there's nothing new there.

Also are you saying that the only thing Sarada can offer hinges on previous half a dozen main characters who were uchiha?
Not at all I'm saying that there actions had an impact on people and the NV isn't a noble place, There will exist people who were hurt or lost family members and hold grudges. It opens a dynamic for plot development.

The whole Gaiden.
There was a lot more than that.

I thought Boruto was hated because he is too different from Naruto? Make up your mind.
I for one dont like clones your mistaking me for the die-hard Naruto fans, who want another Naruto. Otherwise I would've just expected another contination like dragon ball super.
 
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There are only 7 plots which all stories show in one way or another. There's not much room for originality, character development yes, which is why I say Boruto is a dry character and we need another like Sarada to take the lead.
dude you're still going on about that, just get it over it already it's not happening . Sarada is a side mc for a reason. just let it go
 

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Even freaking Madara :lol

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A Main Character wanting to be Hokage is one thing, but almost all important/side and Uchiha characters trying to be Hokage. It's just weird.

I don't find anything interesting about a character wanting to be Hokage anymore. I'd rather carve my eyes out.

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**** me.
You really think it'd have been nicer if she wanted to be like Tobirama/Itachi/Shisui/Sasuke? At this point, she already sorta has Itachi's fighting style with her Genjutsu prowess, SCJ usage and Shurikenjutsu. All she would need to do is declare she wants to protect the village from the shadows and she would be your female Itachi. Thank God she wants to become Hokage, cause she'll be the first Uchiha that actually has influence over the shinobi system, as others tried but failed.

Sarada would of been interesting in different ways, but that'd have been at the expense of the MC. Boruto would be bland and boring. No one would even watch this series if Boruto wanted to be like Naruto. (See how detrimental this is to Boruto while making the side character interesting still?)

So I'm good with them choosing the opposite paths of their fathers. Makes the dynamic a lot more interesting.
 
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Pardoned by the kage not by the people who lost family members etc.



The Uchiha name makes everybody's celebrity there's nothing new there.



Not at all I'm saying that there actions had an impact on people and the NV isn't a noble place, There will exist people who were hurt or lost family members and hold grudges. It opens a dynamic for plot development.

The whole Gaiden.
There was a lot more than that.


I for one dont like clones your mistaking me for the die-hard Naruto fans, who want another Naruto. Otherwise I would've just expected another contination like dragon ball super.
I don't understand how this post got a dislike. Cause I see nothing but facts here. Especially the last point.

Naruto being the MC in this series would have been a ton better than a new Naruto with blonde hair and blues, except he's a bratty, irritable kid who can't appreciate his father's efforts to be around his family and thinks Sasuke is a lot better than him when he's a lot less around his own family, like this seriously has me confused.

Also, Anime Boruto is already too much like Naruto:

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So far, his dream is what saves him from being uninteresting and uninspiring. TBH, I don't even feel much about his dream. Back when Naruto declared he wanted to be Hokage and wouldn't die, I got tingles down my spine and I would want to cheer him on. Now with Boruto, I just keep a straight face, cause his dream just doesn't inspire me. I feel nothing from it, cause Sasuke already set the standards up too high, and I'm honestly not looking forward to seeing someone else be the Hokage's extension, as there's already a plethora of them we've seen, and some like Itachi have made it impossible to like someone else doing it. With Sasuke, it at least felt natural and original, considering how much admiration he had for Itachi, and how it inspired him when he ascertained what he had done for Konoha. For Boruto, it's just ''I don't want to be like my dad.'' ''I think Sasuke's cool and wanna be like him''. And this is a massive downgrade, from Shisui who did this with honest devotion, and Itachi who knew he couldn't become Hokage knowing how his people were generally perceived. Let's be honest, Itachi would of become Hokage if it wasn't for the Uchiha's tarnished reputation. But, he couldn't. Which makes Sarada's dream more appealing in this respect.

While I agree that Sarada's dream is nothing new, I can't accept the notion it's not interesting for her character. Also, I don't understand someone believing it would've been better if the roles were switched. The only dream I see Sarada having would be reviving the Uchiha clan, but that wouldn't be enough for a deuteragonist, and wouldn't it be too reminiscent of Sasuke who had the same dream back in Pt.1? So we'd then have two characters practically aspiring to be like Sasuke.
 
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You really think it'd have been nicer if she wanted to be like Tobirama/Itachi/Shisui/Sasuke?
When did I say that?

YAt this point, she already sorta has Itachi's fighting style with her Genjutsu prowess
Basic Sharingan genjutsu

YAll she would need to do is declare she wants to protect the village from the shadows and she would be your female Itachi.
She would be a better version of Itachi IMO. Just super.. contrived in a way. Because her relationship with the Village would be built on leaving, and then suddenly wanting to protect it in a single day :elmo:


YThank God she wants to become Hokage, cause she'll be the first Uchiha that actually has influence over the shinobi system, as others tried but failed.
I never said her dream was bad, but it's boring. There's nothing interesting about an Uchiha wanting to be Hokage. Especially in regards to her dream being lackluster compared to Naruto's. There's no investment involved. I support her, but that's only because I have to. There's no reason not to either.

That's why it's just meh.

YSarada would of been interesting in different ways, but that'd have been at the expense of the MC. Boruto would be bland and boring. No one would even watch this series if Boruto wanted to be like Naruto. (See how detrimental this is to Boruto while making the side character interesting still?)
If Sarada didn't want to be Hokage, Boruto would just opt to protect the Leaf for whoever the upcoming Hokage would be after Naruto.

YSo I'm good with them choosing the opposite paths of their fathers. Makes the dynamic a lot more interesting.
I agree


I don't understand how this post got a dislike. Cause I see nothing but facts here. Especially the last point.
Cause he's illogical. Let me explain:


except he's a bratty, irritable kid who can't appreciate his father's efforts to be around his family and thinks Sasuke is a lot better than him when he's a lot less around his own family, like this seriously has me confused.
It's called growing up. People appreciate the story when the character is generally flawed, it leads up to a more satisfied conclusion when the character isn't perfect.

This draws specifically clear when no one in Boruto's generation has actual conflicts outside of family issues. Whereas Boruto is one of the few characters who has internal issues with himself: Boruto Movie.


Also, Anime Boruto is already too much like Naruto:
Manga Boruto isn't. So if it leads up to that, we have no problem here.
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So far, his dream is what saves him from being uninteresting and uninspiring.
Outside of his tendencies for cheating, being lazy. self conscious, and cocky. Not to mention Boruto is actually one of the few characters in the story who seems realistic. Mitsuki doesn't react to anything, and Sarada hasn't been doing justice since the Gaiden in regards to calling out BS when she see's it.

I mean look at the last chapter when Boruto is the only person in the entire narrative who see's the problem with the technology, despite his bias for it. No one see's the problems outside of the fandom who clearly see it will be the end of ninja. It's quite sad, actually.


TBH, I don't even feel much about his dream.
That's fair for now. I don't feel much about it either, but it's definitely more interesting than 'I wanna be hokage' 2.0.


For Boruto, it's just ''I don't want to be like my dad.''
That's the same reasoning Sarada has for wanting to be not like her dad.


''I think Sasuke's cool and wanna be like him''.
Boruto never said this.


And this is a massive downgrade, from Shisui who did this with honest devotion,
Shisui was just a regular ninja of the Uchiha Clan. Nothing special about his devotion, especially in regards to common ninja.


nd Itachi who knew he couldn't become Hokage knowing how his people were generally perceived. Let's be honest, Itachi would of become Hokage if it wasn't for the Uchiha's tarnished reputation.
This would of never happened.


But, he couldn't. Which makes Sarada's dream more appealing in this respect.
It really doesn't.


I can't accept the notion it's not interesting for her character.
It's simply boring. 699 chapters worth of 'I want to be Hokage'.

She brings nothing new to the table in that regard. I'm sorry but that's common sense. I'm not saying Boruto's goal is that far off, but at least we have an Uzumaki who doesn't want to be a Hokage. Not to mention, Boruto is starting off wanting to support the Kage. Whereas Sasuke picked this goal from the cooperation talk at the end of the series.

We get to see Boruto evolve into a person who can do these things. That makes it worth it, in contrast to how bright he is now.
 
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Naruto being the MC in this series would have been a ton better than a new Naruto with blonde hair and blues, except he's a bratty, irritable kid
Let's use your logic on Salad. She's nothing more than a girl Sasuke with CES. Even shares her daddy issues like what Sasuke did with Fugaku, and both are tsundere to Naruto/Bolt. Similiarites are expected, but you're being foolish to claim they're the same. Naruto's interactions with Kiba/Shikamaru/Hinata when firsting meeting are literally the exact opposite of Bolt's with people like Iwabe/Mitsuki/Sumire.

who can't appreciate his father's efforts to be around his family
Not anymore. We're 5 to 6 months past that point in the manga, yet here you are talking about things from the past and ignoring new developments. Typical SS fan. :coffee:
and thinks Sasuke is a lot better than him
No lmfao!! :lol Where TF does this guy get all this nonsense from?

when he's a lot less around his own family,
Which Bolt is unaware of, and we both know you already know this.

like this seriously has me confused.
You're always confused, sad really when this is a series for primarily preteens, hence the BS you spew all the time.


Also, Anime Boruto is already too much like Naruto:

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Clown logic, as always.

Here, let me do that with Hinata:

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Wow, Bolt has similiarites with both of his parents, who would have thought?

So far, his dream is what saves him from being uninteresting and uninspiring. TBH, I don't even feel much about his dream. Back when Naruto declared he wanted to be Hokage and wouldn't die, I got tingles down my spine and I would want to cheer him on. Now with Boruto, I just keep a straight face, cause his dream just doesn't inspire me. I feel nothing from it, cause Sasuke already set the standards up too high, and I'm honestly not looking forward to seeing someone else be the Hokage's extension, as there's already a plethora of them we've seen, and some like Itachi have made it impossible to like someone else doing it. With Sasuke, it at least felt natural and original, considering how much admiration he had for Itachi, and how it inspired him when he ascertained what he had done for Konoha. For Boruto, it's just ''I don't want to be like my dad.'' ''I think Sasuke's cool and wanna be like him''. And this is a massive downgrade, from Shisui who did this with honest devotion, and Itachi who knew he couldn't become Hokage knowing how his people were generally perceived. Let's be honest, Itachi would of become Hokage if it wasn't for the Uchiha's tarnished reputation. But, he couldn't. Which makes Sarada's dream more appealing in this respect.

While I agree that Sarada's dream is nothing new, I can't accept the notion it's not interesting for her character. Also, I don't understand someone believing it would've been better if the roles were switched. The only dream I see Sarada having would be reviving the Uchiha clan, but that wouldn't be enough for a deuteragonist, and wouldn't it be too reminiscent of Sasuke who had the same dream back in Pt.1? So we'd then have two characters practically aspiring to be like Sasuke.

First paragraph: "Bolt's goal is uninspiring because other side characters have had small portions of their characters focus on this aspect"

Second paragraph: "Salad's goal is not uninspiring even though the literal main character's main goal was doing just that"

Some one shoot me.
 

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Let's use your logic on Salad.
Sarada fan's are getting the wrong message from my posts. I'm not saying that Sarada's goal is bad, or anything like that. Good for her, and I support her.

But the simple fact is that the Hokage path is just... boring. It's overdone. There's nothing exciting about it. This has nothing to do with Sarada personally, but it has to do with the Hokage presentation. We've seen multiple Hokage or Kage characters in limelight, we've seen the Main Character try to become Hokage for 15 years, and countless other characters in the series have all shared this dream: About 6 Uchiha's, Dan, Kushina, Minato, etc.

It's just not that inspirational anymore. I feel no emotional attachment to what the Hokage is and what he/she represents. I respect it, but I don't feel any type of excitement for it.

I mean essentially we are waiting for Sarada to put on her hat, start Gokage meetings, and then sit behind a desk while she fills out paper work. That's her life. By the time Sarada becomes Hokage, peace will most likely be established again. Even then, we've seen Hokage's in war time like: Hashirama, Hiruzen, Minato, and so on. So that narrative isn't unique from that aspect.

Then there's Naruto and Kakashi who controlled the Village during the time of the technology boom. So there's that too.


Sarada's Hokage goal won't offer anything new to the table, not because of her specifically. but because the goal has been beaten far worse than any other job in the series. No competition.

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Now going back to the topic at hand, Boruto's path is far more interesting, not just because the aspect of wanting to support the Hokage is. But by the plain fact that there's a lack of exposition on this subject. For example:

Sasuke is the clear example of who Boruto inspires to be, and yet, Sasuke's role in all of this is hardly portrayed. There's not one Sasuke fan in this thread, not to mention one fan in the fandom, that wouldn't be excited for a Sasuke Gaiden where he goes off and supports the Leaf by doing missions in the Underground. Even Sasuke's mission in which he sacrificed years of his adulthood, would have been far more entertaining than watching Naruto do paperwork. I'm saying this as the biggest Naruto fan ever.

Sure, there are characters like Itachi, who have supported the Village from the shadows. But again, with the lack of exposition. These types of situations are explained last minute, and Sasuke clears that route too. But we never actually see them get their hands dirty, and work. For example:

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Here is Sasuke, doing his job while being the Village. He is the one interrogating Shojoji, and he brings a new element to the series. Almost like a detective, he does his job without restrain. And actually gets the job done.

While Naruto is governing the Village from the inside, has to be contained within his cubicle while he makes sure his people/ninjas are doing their jobs:

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We have to be honest with ourselves. Sasuke has shined the most since the ending, because he isn't capped to one place. He gets to go out and actually do things - He gets to support the Village like a true ninja.

Why Boruto brings a new element is due to the fact that he's simply not like Sasuke or Itachi, he's soft. He's a kid, he's nice, and he's friendly. Ninjas like those two are born from war, conflict, and pain. But Boruto was raised with love, in peace, with his biggest troubles being family issues.

This creates a situation where we have to see Boruto grow into a man, a real ninja. But Sarada? Well she just has to mature. But... she's already mature. And she's smart.

Heck, she's even a good leader based on the Chunin Examinations. There's nothing to look forward to, that's the problem.

Sarada is almost too perfect, she has no character flaws, and she's not weak either. Whereas Boruto is starting to shine and mature into a proper ninja, after failing hard from the previous Arc.

Someone tell me I'm wrong with this opinion.
 

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Sarada fan's are getting the wrong message from my posts. I'm not saying that Sarada's goal is bad, or anything like that. Good for her, and I support her.

But the simple fact is that the Hokage path is just... boring. It's overdone. There's nothing exciting about it. This has nothing to do with Sarada personally, but it has to do with the Hokage presentation. We've seen multiple Hokage or Kage characters in limelight, we've seen the Main Character try to become Hokage for 15 years, and countless other characters in the series have all shared this dream: About 6 Uchiha's, Dan, Kushina, Minato, etc.

It's just not that inspirational anymore. I feel no emotional attachment to what the Hokage is and what he/she represents. I respect it, but I don't feel any type of excitement for it.

I mean essentially we are waiting for Sarada to put on her hat, start Gokage meetings, and then sit behind a desk while she fills out paper work. That's her life. By the time Sarada becomes Hokage, peace will most likely be established again. Even then, we've seen Hokage's in war time like: Hashirama, Hiruzen, Minato, and so on. So that narrative isn't unique from that aspect.

Then there's Naruto and Kakashi who controlled the Village during the time of the technology boom. So there's that too.


Sarada's Hokage goal won't offer anything new to the table, not because of her specifically. but because the goal has been beaten far worse than any other job in the series. No competition.

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Now going back to the topic at hand, Boruto's path is far more interesting, not just because the aspect of wanting to support the Hokage is. But by the plain fact that there's a lack of exposition on this subject. For example:

Sasuke is the clear example of who Boruto inspires to be, and yet, Sasuke's role in all of this is hardly portrayed. There's not one Sasuke fan in this thread, not to mention one fan in the fandom, that wouldn't be excited for a Sasuke Gaiden where he goes off and supports the Leaf by doing missions in the Underground. Even Sasuke's mission in which he sacrificed years of his adulthood, would have been far more entertaining than watching Naruto do paperwork. I'm saying this as the biggest Naruto fan ever.

Sure, there are characters like Itachi, who have supported the Village from the shadows. But again, with the lack of exposition. These types of situations are explained last minute, and Sasuke clears that route too. But we never actually see them get their hands dirty, and work. For example:

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Here is Sasuke, doing his job while being the Village. He is the one interrogating Shojoji, and he brings a new element to the series. Almost like a detective, he does his job without restrain. And actually gets the job done.

While Naruto is governing the Village from the inside, has to be contained within his cubicle while he makes sure his people/ninjas are doing their jobs:

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We have to be honest with ourselves. Sasuke has shined the most since the ending, because he isn't capped to one place. He gets to go out and actually do things - He gets to support the Village like a true ninja.

Why Boruto brings a new element is due to the fact that he's simply not like Sasuke or Itachi, he's soft. He's a kid, he's nice, and he's friendly. Ninjas like those two are born from war, conflict, and pain. But Boruto was raised with love, in peace, with his biggest troubles being family issues.

This creates a situation where we have to see Boruto grow into a man, a real ninja. But Sarada? Well she just has to mature. But... she's already mature. And she's smart.

Heck, she's even a good leader based on the Chunin Examinations. There's nothing to look forward to, that's the problem.

Sarada is almost too perfect, she has no character flaws, and she's not weak either. Whereas Boruto is starting to shine and mature into a proper ninja, after failing hard from the previous Arc.

Someone tell me I'm wrong with this opinion.
I'm sorry but the question is are you right? Or are you right.
 
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