DSM Orochimaru still acknolwedges Hiruzen as his Sensei and wants to be like him

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I know this may not mean much to you guys but this shows Orochimaru trully respected Hiruzen. He also wanted to follow Hiruzen footsteps in knowing all jutsu

Although he villified the old Hiruzen when they fought due to not being picked as hokage. DSM Orochimaru trully cared enough to continue calling him sensei even in this war.

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Even when Orochimaru got yelled at by Hiruzen you see him quickly explaining himself in fear of Hiruzen.

This shows that Orochimaru respects the "Prime Hiruzen" that trained him into the OP shinobi he is now. Especially since Orochimaru did not say anything negative. Thus proving his respect and acknowledgement.

Others who direspected there sensei

Sasuke and Kakashi
Obito and Minato


Also let us not forget that Orochimaru wants to learn ALL the jutsu due to Prime Hiruzen knowing ALL the jutsu of Konoha.


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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think Orochimaru has DSM. He never had it before he "died" and the chakra he took from Kabuto was his own charka, not sage chakra
 

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That's not Sage Mode chief, Oro cant handle nature energy I think. But I get what your trying to say and your right. =D
He mastered Senjutsu chakra gathering, trained in Ryuchidou, can release Sennin Transformations, manipulates Senjutsu chakra through Cursed Seals - and you say he cannot handle nature energy?
 

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Well of course. Hiruzen is underrated on the Base. People don't understand he is Top 10 material and is someone whom Naruto and Sasuke admires.
 

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"He quickly explained himself" That's why he shut him down, and even threatened him. Please, Orochimaru doesn't bow down to fodder.
So Orochimaru refer to fodder as sensei? what does that say about himself?

Godly I know your a hater but don't bash your own favorite char to persue Hate
 

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Oro doesn't have Sage Mode disagree with that? :erm:
I believe he does have it, but since we haven't seen him use it - for now he doesn't.
But still, the only thing he lacked was a strong enough body - now that he's full Mokuton, he should be able to use DSM, considering that even without entering it he's more than proficient in SM things.
 

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"He quickly explained himself" That's why he shut him down, and even threatened him. Please, Orochimaru doesn't bow down to fodder.
Your joking. An Old battle fatigued Hiruzen made Orochimaru almost cry while a 4 Tail Naruto was being played around by an armless Orochimaru. Don't hate. Orochimaru admitted that he would have been killed By Hiruzen if he had been 10 years younger.
 

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I believe he does have it, but since we haven't seen him use it - for now he doesn't.
But still, the only thing he lacked was a strong enough body - now that he's full Mokuton, he should be able to use DSM, considering that even without entering it he's more than proficient in SM things.
Ok he is skilled in using things associated with SM. I was wrong +rep
 

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Your joking. An Old battle fatigued Hiruzen made Orochimaru almost cry while a 4 Tail Naruto was being played around by an armless Orochimaru. Don't hate. Orochimaru admitted that he would have been killed By Hiruzen if he had been 10 years younger.
You must not know the meaning of Retcon. The only reason why Hiruzen was able to last that long in the fight, was because he was joking around. If he had killing intention he would've kill Hiruzen. He WANTED to see the RDS, but then he realized it's capabilities; but it was too late.
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Your joking. An Old battle fatigued Hiruzen made Orochimaru almost cry while a 4 Tail Naruto was being played around by an armless Orochimaru. Don't hate. Orochimaru admitted that he would have been killed By Hiruzen if he had been 10 years younger.
Orochimaru admitted that Hiruzen would've managed to FINISH HIS DEAD DEMON SEAL.
He didn't say anything about 10 years younger Hiruzen defeating him without DDS.

Moreover, even if Hiruzen succeeded with DDS, Orochimaru would've been revived by Kabuto through any of the Cursed Seals.
 

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You must not know the meaning of Retcon. The only reason why Hiruzen was able to last that long in the fight, was because he was joking around. If he had killing intention he would've kill Hiruzen. He WANTED to see the RDS, but then he realized it's capabilities; but it was too late.
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Doesn't matter since Orochimaru admitted that he would have been killed by a younger Hiruzen.
 
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