DSM Kabuto & Zetsu Orochimaru vs War arc SM Naruto & Minato

[Haizaki]

Simply because the first panel only shows naruto's eye.

Lmao denial is strong..What about his head movements being different in the 2?

 

[RedRobin]

Lmao denial is strong..What about his head movements being different in the 2?

Its not different. You are simply see it from different perspectives. From the top and then the front.

 

[Haizaki]

I'm done my G. "It's no different, I'm seeing it from different perspectives" despite this being clear as day that it is very different with SFX supporting the difference. You've denied both clearly and I don't have time to waste on you.

 

[RedRobin]

I'm done my G. "It's no different, I'm seeing it from different perspectives" despite this being clear as day that it is very different with SFX supporting the difference. You've denied both clearly and I don't have time to waste on you.

Its the same panel you just see it from a different perspective and more of it in the second one. Its obvious the crow breaks the genjustu which is Naruto's 'surprise' in the first panel the crow going into his mouth.

Again the genjustu was the distraction to get the crow in his mouth.

 

[Haizaki]

Its the same panel you just see it from a different perspective and more of it in the second one. Its obvious the crow breaks the genjustu which is Naruto's 'surprise' in the first panel the crow going into his mouth.

Stop okay? The first one shows his hair gently in front of his headband with only a surprise face indicating a shock at something coming.
Second shows the SFX saying "Entering", his hair flying away from from his headband in backward manner and us actually seeing the crow entering.

It's on you to prove it entered in the first one and not the second...You can't because, well you can't possibly. You're assuming he did with nothing except a surprised face. Not valid. It's the second one from anyone's point of view seeing the indication. Don't bother quoting me, I won't respond to you given your ridiculous denial.

 

[RedRobin]

Stop okay? The first one shows his hair gently in front of his headband with only a surprise face indicating a shock at something coming.
Second shows the SFX saying "Entering", his hair flying away from from his headband in backward manner and us actually seeing the crow entering.

It's on you to prove it entered in the first one and not the second...You can't because, well you can't possibly. You're assuming he did with nothing except a surprised face. Not valid. It's the second one from anyone's point of view seeing the indication. Don't bother quoting me, I won't respond to you given your ridiculous denial.

Fine his head goes back in the second the first still shows the crow entering as the second panel already shows the crow in his mouth. The only time possible when the head could have gone in is the first panel which again is Naruto's surprise.

Isnt the crow still 'entering' into his mouth in the second panel? You arent going to get a sfx when the panel had nothing to show the sound for.

Lol you think Naruto couldnt close his mouth before he saw the crow approaching? No he couldnt do anything because it was already happening when he realized it.

Main point is the genjustu worked on the clone to get the crow inside Naruto.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Ok here's what I picked up concerning the conflict between clones vs genjutsu.

-We know Genjutsus are capable of 1. Hallucinations, 2. Paralysis, or both.

Base on the characters, they have shown counters for 1 or the other.

Example: Sasuke and Itachi can see through Kabuto's Genjutsu. They could counter its hallucination "part", yet still get effected by the "paralysis" part of the Genjutsu.

If we look at the clones it seemed that they have the opposite of the effects:

Kakashi's Clone was able to hallucination from Itachi's genjutsu, yet the paralysis seem to be ineffective.

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I think its fair to say Clones can still be hallucinated[

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@Haizaki It seems that is a good counter for clones usage for chakra disruption. So based on my interpretation, I concede that specific point. I said that because KG65 stated it could be chakra disruption that enables canceling ninjutsu. And we know disruption to the original causes clones to disperse.

On the other hand, if hallucinated premise is true to clones, Kabuto could possible use it to fool the clone for the originals position.