[Discussion] DSM Kabuto vs Nagato no holds barred!!!

[ThomasJeffersonwasasadist]

LOL.

No, we arent talking about the 6pop. Just Nagato. He cant move fast. He's basically stationary, his only hope is Bansho Tenin to draw Kabuto close to him, which could easily be a double edged sword, for one, it will make ripping Kabuto's soul easy, but also, Kabuto can oral rebirth at the last second and Use his Disection blade to chop off Nagato's head.

6pop is nagatos technique so we are talking about them. Kabuto wins with edo tensi but we are talking with 6pop.

 

[Frankenstein]

LOL.

No, we arent talking about the 6pop. Just Nagato. He cant move fast. He's basically stationary, his only hope is Bansho Tenin to draw Kabuto close to him, which could easily be a double edged sword, for one, it will make ripping Kabuto's soul easy, but also, Kabuto can oral rebirth at the last second and Use his Disection blade to chop off Nagato's head.

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I couldn't help myself...it's so ridiculous.

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Okay if we are talking about Nagato without his Paths then Kabuto wins.
The only thing he has to do is manage to stay alive until he starts summoning zombies like crazy xd
He is good enough for that.

 

[GwemBaba]

Kabuto no holds barred

Auto heal, Genjutsu, Liquification, Intellegence, Edo Tensei, Medic skills.
Depending on how the match starts, it can go either way, but as for no hold barred, Edo tensei pretty much counters Nagato.

Wrong, Nagato pretty much counters Edo Tensei

Nagato grabs a hold of one, he either seals it right there, or he absorbs it's chakra, and Edo's have infinite amounts of the stuff, Nagato will become unstoppable.

Using Edo tensei would be like Kabuto shooting himself in the foot.

 

[LolaxXx]

6pop is nagatos technique so we are talking about them. Kabuto wins with edo tensi but we are talking with 6pop.

Can Nagato fight at the same time he is controlling 6pop?

Kabuto's edos fight them,
Kabuto defeats Nagato.

 

[GwemBaba]

Kabuto knows not to get in close. Which is why he will kepp his distance.

Kabuto looses long range too, his dog summon and all 5 natures to boot? Come on!

 

[LolaxXx]

Wrong, Nagato pretty much counters Edo Tensei

Nagato grabs a hold of one, he either seals it right there, or he absorbs it's chakra, and Edo's have infinite amounts of the stuff, Nagato will become unstoppable.

Using Edo tensei would be like Kabuto shooting himself in the foot.

Kabuto isnt so stupid as not to choose carefully who he revives. And he can absorb all he wants, but Kabuto can easily recall the edo and re summon it.

 

[LolaxXx]

Kabuto looses long range too, his dog summon and all 5 natures to boot? Come on!

his dog summon is countered by Manda 2 which is MUCH bigger than the dog. The dog is barely large enough to stick out of a forest, whereas Manda 2 goes thru forest like a snake thru grass.

Sound Genjutsu, how does Nagato escape? 5 elements is good and all, But he is a sitting duck.

 

[GwemBaba]

his dog summon is countered by Manda 2 which is MUCH bigger than the dog. The dog is barely large enough to stick out of a forest, whereas Manda 2 goes thru forest like a snake thru grass.

Sound Genjutsu, how does Nagato escape? 5 elements is good and all, But he is a sitting duck.

The same way how Dosu's jutsu wouldn't work.

That's a good point, unfortunately though the sound jutsu is all Chakra, Kabuto just eats it all up.

There IS no counter for the Dog summon, Nagato himself states that the only way to stop the summon is to defeat Nagato.

 

[Draegod]

Wrong section. And Kabuto wins.

Fact 1: Kabuto knows all nagato's best jutsus and abilities

Fact 2: Nagato knows literally noting about kabuto

Fact 3: Kabuto cannot be harmed by any physical attack. So shinra tensei, chibaku etc are useless

Fact 4: Sound Genjutsu... Is just a start

Fact 5: Kabuto is faster, smarter, and has the upperhand on his opponent (fact 1 and 2)

Fact 6: Ive yet to list Edo and other jutsu's


Kabuto is simply better. No one on this site knows more about the two then me, and in a hard fight kabuto wins 9/10 times. With edo its 1002333/10 Simply rape action!

 

[Itachi Rane]

Nagato has never lost a match, except to Naruto. fock Kabuto, that stupid ass c.unt

Well...nagato didn't lose to naruto, naruto had intel on pein and his weaknesses that's why he could beat them and nagato already was out of chakra. Fighting nagato with all his path abilities is a lot harder....in fact nagato with complete chakra and health can own BM naruto. And he's a perfect match for DSM Kabuto....

 

[LolaxXx]

Nagato

Basically stationary in a battle. Can move (not fast)
Can Utilize all 5 of the basic elements ( to what degree?)
Summon, a giant rhino, Bird, Cameleon, Lobstercrab,
Rip out souls
Absorb chakra based attacks.
Reflect all jutsu every 5 seconds (Shinra Tensei)
Attract anything to him (Bansho Tenin)
Chibaku Tensei
6pop (shared vision)

Kabuto
Auto healing
Immune to most genjutsu
OP Summon Manda 2, arguably bigger than a Bijuu (same size)
Medic skills
Dangerous Intel
Liquification
Sound Genjutsu
Edo Tensei
Environmental manipulation
Sage Jutsu - (Light Dragon)
Unbreakable spider webs
Kimimaro's Bones
Sakon/Ukon body infiltration (to what degree?)

All we need is the location, distance etc.

 

[GwemBaba]

his dog summon is countered by Manda 2 which is MUCH bigger than the dog. The dog is barely large enough to stick out of a forest, whereas Manda 2 goes thru forest like a snake thru grass.

Sound Genjutsu, how does Nagato escape? 5 elements is good and all, But he is a sitting duck.

Also, wind style counters it full stop.

Think physics, sound travels using air particles, Nagato controls air particles easy.

 

[GwemBaba]

Wrong section. And Kabuto wins.

Fact 1: Kabuto knows all nagato's best jutsus and abilities

Fact 2: Nagato knows literally noting about kabuto

Fact 3: Kabuto cannot be harmed by any physical attack. So shinra tensei, chibaku etc are useless

Fact 4: Sound Genjutsu... Is just a start

Fact 5: Kabuto is faster, smarter, and has the upperhand on his opponent (fact 1 and 2)

Fact 6: Ive yet to list Edo and other jutsu's


Kabuto is simply better. No one on this site knows more about the two then me, and in a hard fight kabuto wins 9/10 times. With edo its 1002333/10 Simply rape action!

I'm willing to contest that friend, I'll make a thread on it after I return from school.

 

[LolaxXx]

The same way how Dosu's jutsu wouldn't work.

That's a good point, unfortunately though the sound jutsu is all Chakra, Kabuto just eats it all up.

There IS no counter for the Dog summon, Nagato himself states that the only way to stop the summon is to defeat Nagato.

..If Nagato hears the flute, he will be caught in the genjutsu.
Manda just crushes the dog under its body, no escape. If Nagato could absorb sound jutsu, why didnt he against Fukusaku instead of killing him? And why did Fukusaku even attempt it if he knew he could absorb it? Nagato wouldnt know that the flute is a genjutsu until it is too late. If he was prepared for it, possible.

Nagato said that regarding to Naruto. Nagato dosent know that Kabuto can summon a giant snake which would eat his dog.

 

[LolaxXx]

Also, wind style counters it full stop.

Think physics, sound travels using air particles, Nagato controls air particles easy.

But to what degree can Nagato use the wind jutsu? Can he use large blasts? or wind blades? we dont know?
Danzo has mastered wind, but he only uses wind blades.

 

[GwemBaba]

..If Nagato hears the flute, he will be caught in the genjutsu.
Manda just crushes the dog under its body, no escape. If Nagato could absorb sound jutsu, why didnt he against Fukusaku instead of killing him? And why did Fukusaku even attempt it if he knew he could absorb it?

Nagato said that regarding to Naruto. Nagato dosent know that Kabuto can summon a giant snake which would eat his dog.

Good point, Fukusaku used it on the paths that don't have the absorb ability, remember each path has one of his abilities.

If he did, it was PIS and only that.

Similar how Nagato didn't absorb BM Naruto's cloak, we know he can.

The Dog multiplies every time it is struck.

Manda 2 eats the dog? Remember in pt 1 when the snake ate Naruto? Same thing.

 

[GwemBaba]

But to what degree can Nagato use the wind jutsu? Can he use large blasts? or wind blades? we dont know?
Danzo has mastered wind, but he only uses wind blades.

It was all Danzo could demonstrate in his short time given.

Remember. He who weilds the Rinnegan, is able to master ALL chakra natures.

Nice try though, you've given great points

 

[LolaxXx]

Good point, Fukusaku used it on the paths that don't have the absorb ability, remember each path has one of his abilities.

If he did, it was PIS and only that.

Similar how Nagato didn't absorb BM Naruto's cloak, we know he can.

The Dog multiplies every time it is struck.

Manda 2 eats the dog? Remember in pt 1 when the snake ate Naruto? Same thing.

The dog only multiplies when it is struck, if its eaten, thats a different story. The moment he hears the sound, its too late, Nagato cant react before he can hear. The only thing faster than sound is light.

 

[VongolaX]

DSM kabuto, he was the closest thing to the sage and he couldnt die

 

[BigGuns Reloaded]

kabuto mid diff