[VS] DSM Kabuto Vs KCSM Naruto

Who wins?

  • Kabuto Yakushi loses

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  • Naruto Uzumaki loses

    Votes: 3 37.5%
  • They kill eachother

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  • They both get trashed by ents :x

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White Rage paralyzes him then Kabuto one shots. Probably with Kimimaro's drill or Kidomaru's Arrow. And since I know someone is going to mention it, absolutely no blitzes will be occurring here. DSM Kabuto is easily more reflexive than Early EMS Sasuke, who can match KCM Naruto. So unless KCM Naruto is going to be able to blitz himself he's not blitzing Kabuto.

So yeah, Kabuto wins this pretty easily.
 

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Naruto wins
Genjutsu is irrelevant. The conditions here makes kyuubi friendly, which makes genjutsu irrelevant.
White rage is countered via Sage sensing as well as negative emotion sensing. When Naruto is hit by white rage, he'd sense Kabuto coming his way. He'd use his chakra arms to stop Kabuto's advance. Itachi could use Susanoo so I don't see why Naruto can't use his chakra arms, Naruto's far stronger physically. Kimimaro arrows are easily dodged and his webs are countered by mini rasenshurikens. Naruto eventually hits Kabuto with a frs and it's a GG
 
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Naruto shits.

Whiterage is sensed and countered with a Rasenshuriken. Genjutsu is useless since he has Kurama. Kabuto is bested in cqc and everywhere else.

White Rage paralyzes him then Kabuto one shots. Probably with Kimimaro's drill or Kidomaru's Arrow. And since I know someone is going to mention it, absolutely no blitzes will be occurring here. DSM Kabuto is easily more reflexive than Early EMS Sasuke, who can match KCM Naruto. So unless KCM Naruto is going to be able to blitz himself he's not blitzing Kabuto.

So yeah, Kabuto wins this pretty easily.
How is Kabuto more reflexive than KSM? KM alone dodged Raikage Ay fastest punch. Adding SM means sensing and reflexes are boosted even more. Kabuto was forced to use the cave to evade a Susanoo arrow KSM Naruto would evade that with ease.
 
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Naruto shits.

Whiterage is sensed and countered with a Rasenshuriken. Genjutsu is useless since he has Kurama. Kabuto is bested in cqc and everywhere else.


How is Kabuto more reflexive than KSM? KM alone dodged Raikage Ay fastest punch. Adding SM means sensing and reflexes are boosted even more. Kabuto was forced to use the cave to evade a Susanoo arrow KSM Naruto would evade that with ease.
It's like you don't read the Manga before you decide to post. :lol Kabuto was able to evade the arrow because he was fast enough. "use the cave" is a stupid excuse that doesn't even make an iota of sense. EMS Sasuke early war was matching KCM Naruto in reaction speed. DSM Kabuto is easily more reflexive than Sasuke. KCM Naruto can't blitz himself even w/ Sage Mode active so there's nothing to argue here.

And I never stated that DSM Kabuto>KCSM Naruto in reaction speed. I clearly said "DSM Kabuto>KCM Naruto in reaction speed".
 
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It's like you don't read the Manga before you decide to post. :lol Kabuto was able to evade the arrow because he was fast enough. "use the cave" is a stupid excuse that doesn't even make an iota of sense. EMS Sasuke early war was matching KCM Naruto in reaction speed. DSM Kabuto is easily more reflexive than Sasuke. KCM Naruto can't blitz himself even w/ Sage Mode active so there's nothing to argue here.
Wrong when Km Naruto best feat of dodging Raikage is more impressive than anything Kabuto reacted to or dodge. He used the cave to his advantage via hiding behind the rocks that were present. Ems Sasuke was matching Naruto? Lol yes because Naruto charged in at max speed lol hilarious claim. Kabuto can be more reflexive than Sasuke that doesn't mean he's more reflexive than Naruto. Never stated or even implied Naruto would blitz here so what are you talking about?

And I never stated that DSM Kabuto>KCSM Naruto in reaction speed. I clearly said "DSM Kabuto>KCM Naruto in reaction speed".
Why even mention regular KM Naruto when this is KSM Naruto? Your not making any sense.

Also WR is never going to be a factor here when Naruto clones can still protect him if he's ever caught.
 
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Naruto doesn't have any counter to White rage. No avatar to act as a shield or a method to neutralize the effects. He would be paralyzed. White rage+Muki Tensei kills him.
 

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Wrong when Km Naruto best feat of dodging Raikage is more impressive than anything Kabuto reacted to or dodge. He used the cave to his advantage via hiding behind the rocks that were present. Ems Sasuke was matching Naruto? Lol yes because Naruto charged in at max speed lol hilarious claim. Kabuto can be more reflexive than Sasuke that doesn't mean he's more reflexive than Naruto. Never stated or even implied Naruto would blitz here so what are you talking about?


Why even mention regular KM Naruto when this is KSM Naruto? Your not making any sense.

Also WR is never going to be a factor here when Naruto clones can still protect him if he's ever caught.
The first striked out statement is irrelevant because Kabuto has already matched someone who matched that Naruto. The second striked out statement is irrelevant because shunshin speed and reaction speed are not the same thing. Please read the Manga before you reply, it'll save us both a lot of time.

And no, Kabuto was in front of a rock, and then moved up to dodge the arrow. All this "he hid behind a rock" BS is just BS you made up. :lol Imagine thinking I would agree when the Manga scan shows something completely different.

As for why I mentioned KCM Naruto, DSM Kabuto>KCM Naruto in reaction speed and you cannot blitz yourself. SM added onto Naruto doesn't increase his speed to the point where he can blitz himself with zero reaction, especially since the gap between KCM/BM and KCSM/BSM Naruto isn't as large as the gap between Base Naruto and SM Naruto. That is the point of mentioning KCM Naruto, and the last sentence is false. How are clones going to protect him when they will be paralyzed as well? Lmao. Kabuto shits on him if we are being 100% real.
 

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How are clones going to protect him when they will be paralyzed as well? Lmao. Kabuto shits on him if we are being 100% real.
White rage works with light, Bones, how will that effect clones that can sense and have no bones?

Anyways Naruto wins this. FRS can counter the whiterage dragon or Naruto could simple run in the opposite direction of the light or hide behind a tree because the location is forest once that's over it's game.
 

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White rage works with light, Bones, how will that effect clones that can sense and have no bones?

Anyways Naruto wins this. FRS can counter the whiterage dragon or Naruto could simple run in the opposite direction of the light or hide behind a tree because the location is forest once that's over it's game.
Shadow Clones are perfect copies of the user. Obviously they share the user's physiology.
 
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The first striked out statement is irrelevant because Kabuto has already matched someone who matched that Naruto. The second striked out statement is irrelevant because shunshin speed and reaction speed are not the same thing. Please read the Manga before you reply, it'll save us both a lot of time.
It's clear that you don't get it but let me tone it down and put it as simple as possible. Naruto reacting to Raikage Ay full speed shits on anything Kabuto has reacted to.
And no, Kabuto was in front of a rock, and then moved up to dodge the arrow. All this "he hid behind a rock" BS is just BS you made up. :lol Imagine thinking I would agree when the Manga scan shows something completely different.
Ill drop this as it doesn't affect the debate at hand.

As for why I mentioned KCM Naruto, DSM Kabuto>KCM Naruto in reaction speed and you cannot blitz yourself. SM added onto Naruto doesn't increase his speed to the point where he can blitz himself with zero reaction, especially since the gap between KCM/BM and KCSM/BSM Naruto isn't as large as the gap between Base Naruto and SM Naruto. That is the point of mentioning KCM Naruto, and the last sentence is false. How are clones going to protect him when they will be paralyzed as well? Lmao. Kabuto shits on him if we are being 100% real.
It wouldn't matter if he did have better reaction feats than KM Naruto this is KSM Naruto so quit bringing that up.

I NEVER EVER SAID NARUTO WOULD BLITZ WHY ARE YOU CONSTANTLY BRINGING BLITZ UP?

WR is countered by clones or Naruto destroys it with a FRS before it even gets to explode. Shadow clones have no bones their nothing but walking chakra. Whiterage is a moot factor here.
 

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It's clear that you don't get it but let me tone it down and put it as simple as possible. Naruto reacting to Raikage Ay full speed shits on anything Kabuto has reacted to.
I get it, but It's pretty obvious that the basic English language escapes your terrible comprehension skills. The bold isn't an argument. It's you doing what you trash posters do best. Ignoring what kills your argument and repeating the same nonsense over and over again.



It wouldn't matter if he did have better reaction feats than KM Naruto this is KSM Naruto so quit bringing that up.


It matters for the reasons I stated. You saying "It doesn't matter" isn't an argument. It's you being an annoying twit.

I NEVER EVER SAID NARUTO WOULD BLITZ WHY ARE YOU CONSTANTLY BRINGING BLITZ UP?
You asked why I mentioned KCM Naruto so I answered your question. Did I say your argument was a blitz? No dumbass. So you can't properly comprehend pictures and text nor can you properly follow a discussion. Just great. :lol

WR is countered by clones or Naruto destroys it with a FRS before it even gets to explode. Shadow clones have no bones their nothing but walking chakra. Whiterage is a moot factor here.
How is Naruto going to destroy it with FRS? 1. He has no intel whatsoever. 2. It's either light or a liquid substance. FRS would pass right through it and then the technique would go off.

Sage Art: White Rage Attack, the caster gathers natural energy in their body as light, and then expels it from their mouth in the shape of a dragon.

@bold: Do us all a favor and stop replying to me. :lol You'd have to be a special kind of stupid to argue that a perfect copy of the user doesn't have bones. "Walking chakra" is something you made up. Something you seem to be awfully good at.
 
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I get it, but It's pretty obvious that the basic English language escapes your terrible comprehension skills. The bold isn't an argument. It's you doing what you trash posters do best. Ignoring what kills your argument and repeating the same nonsense over and over again.
What has Kabuto reacted to that was just a fast or faster than V2 Raikage Ay fastest punch? Ill wait for a proper response instead of these funny insults.

It matters for the reasons I stated. You saying "It doesn't matter" isn't an argument. It's you being an annoying twit.
Your claiming Kabuto has better reaction feats but Kabuto didn't react to anything KM Naruto wouldn't have reacted to so stop.
You asked why I mentioned KCM Naruto so I answered your question. Did I say your argument was a blitz? No dumbass. So you can't properly comprehend pictures and text nor can you properly follow a discussion. Just great. :lol
Drop anything related to blitzing because i never said Naruto would blitz so quit bring it up altogether.


How is Naruto going to destroy it with FRS? 1. He has no intel whatsoever. 2. It's either light or a liquid substance. FRS would pass right through it and then the technique would go off.
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Except the orb that the Dragon entity is holding is solid thus FRS destroys the orb meaning the affects of WR never happens. Naruto will sense WR via sage mode and negative sensing. It's funny how you mention that he wouldn't know what WR is yet when it comes to sensing and countering MS Sharingan techs which by the way is much faster than WR SM Sensing easily counters it but here he would have a hard time:lmao:. STOP.




@bold: Do us all a favor and stop replying to me. :lol You'd have to be a special kind of stupid to argue that a perfect copy of the user doesn't have bones. "Walking chakra" is something you made up. Something you seem to be awfully good at.
It would appear that when your back is against the ropes you revert to insults i remember in that Kisame vs Minato thread you threw out these same insults just to later concede like i said you would.

THEORY-It would appear that when your arguments are based more or insults rather than manga facts your close to conceding.
 
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Naruto wins
This is obvious i could even say that Naruto could summon Gamabunta to jump out of WR aoe as well.

Whiterage is the only argument he has here. Sound genjutsu is broken out of via Kurama. The other sound 4 abilities are useless. Kidomaru's webs are dodged. Bone forest is dodged or cleared out via FRS. Naruto can also fuse with Ma and Pa while in KM. So many options here.

One more thing what stops Ma and Pa sound genjutsu from one shotting Kabuto here as well?
 
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