You people can't be serious, Kabuto killed Itachi twice during that fight and Sasuke was with him, plus Itachi was an Edo, now he's not. SMH at anyone who said Itachi will win.
How many times did Kabuto kill edo Itachi with Sasuke even supporting him? Even 1 time is too many. Kabuto can stop anything Itachi can throw at him and Izanmi won't come into play in a 1 on 1. Kabuto mid diff.
Well like I said in another thread, people probably didn't like Kabuto's spot at number 1 since they didn't like his personality (I know it shouldn't be opinion based but people even admit to being biased). So now it's there time to thrash him if ET is restricted lol
It would also ruin the whole Uchiha Brother duo.. I thought it was lovely being a tag team match? Of course some posts genuinely think Itachi wins but others are probably talking out of bias. IIRC Izanami needs both point A and point A' to activate, and people think that Itachi won by the time point A happened, so that's a big misconception. By the way Itachi and Madara are my favorite characters >_> said it plenty of times in the past.
Actually even outside of this debate I think Kabuto is much more powerful than people make him for. He makes Manda 2, absorbs the Sound 5, learns Sage Mode, has Orochimaru's powers, already had Jounin level abilities, has a lot of Team Taka's abilities, has medical jutsu.. I mean what more do you want?
dont be ridiculous,kabuto cut itachi in half twice by surprise,even as and edo,he barely even touched kabuto,kabuto wanted sasuke alive and wanted to overwrite the seal in itachi's head,or else he would have just released itachi easily or called his manda 2 to assist him,i dont know where you people get the idea that itachi alone could beat sm kabuto,but why dont you just tell me which way itachi could possibly win here,kabuto already one shotted itachi with sound genjutsu,he is faster and stronger than itachi and can easily outlast him,what possuble way could itachi win?,the wank this guy gets is amazing
Wow really kabuto caught him in a genjutsu you people didn't pay attention did you.
Sasuke asked itachi when did you use izanami , itachi replies since the 1st time he hit me all the rest of the fight was the illusion in kabuto mind :sy: pay attention
Wow really kabuto caught him in a genjutsu you people didn't pay attention did you.
Sasuke asked itachi when did you use izanami , itachi replies since the 1st time he hit me all the rest of the fight was the illusion in kabuto mind :sy: pay attention
You're right, he did start Izanami at that point. To be more precise, he started the loop. That was point A. For a loop, you need two points. The 2nd bushin feint was point A' (from Itachi's explanation). That's why every battle after A' was complete with the same term of events. So in term he did start it but it had no effect until the 2nd bushin feint was completed.
^How does he break his finger or injure himself? He doesn't have Shikamaru's shadow after all. He can't move his body or anything under that genjutsu.
dont be ridiculous,kabuto cut itachi in half twice by surprise,even as and edo,he barely even touched kabuto,kabuto wanted sasuke alive and wanted to overwrite the seal in itachi's head,or else he would have just released itachi easily or called his manda 2 to assist him,i dont know where you people get the idea that itachi alone could beat sm kabuto,but why dont you just tell me which way itachi could possibly win here,kabuto already one shotted itachi with sound genjutsu,he is faster and stronger than itachi and can easily outlast him,what possuble way could itachi win?,the wank this guy gets is amazing
1) that didnt make him loose focus at all,and he was focused on kabuto throughout the match,kabuto cut him down when he wasnt talking anyway.
2) in this match,the white rage would be focused on him only,and itachi was an edo,he healed faster from the effects of white rage,sasuke's endurance is great,and he got one shotted by the tech,itachi is alive here,he will recieve the full efects of the attack alone.
3) kabuto also didnt want to kill sasuke and wanted to simply override the seal on itachi's neck,if he wanted itachi dead,he would have simply released itachi,so he wanted to capture sasuke and overrite the seal on the back of itachi's neck while fighting both of them at the same time and maintaning his control over the other edos all at the same time. He had been nerfed more than the bros.
Knowing a weakness and taking advantage of it are too different things,his sound genjutsu cant be beat by itachi alone,his white rage will still affect itachi,as well as his other techs. He has answers to ALL itachi's ms techs,he is much faster and stronger physically than itachi,his chakra scapel is deadly,itachi wont be able to set up izanami alone at all,especially since kabuto can penetrate his susanoo with 1 move,not to mention ms techs will make his eyes bleed and cause him pain.
You're right, he did start Izanami at that point. To be more precise, he started the loop. That was point A. For a loop, you need two points. The 2nd bushin feint was point A' (from Itachi's explanation). That's why every battle after A' was complete with the same term of events. So in term he did start it but it had no effect until the 2nd bushin feint was completed.
^How does he break his finger or injure himself? He doesn't have Shikamaru's shadow after all. He can't move his body or anything under that genjutsu.
Once your hit the loop begins why would izanami take that long to charge if its the counter for izanagi ?danzo had to use izanagi to dodge sasuke fast susanoo arrows even kakashi who's a 4.5 in the databook couldn't dodge that why would some active izamani for a eye that's already lost ?
Once your hit the loop begins why would izanami take that long to charge if its the counter for izanagi ?danzo had to use izanagi to dodge sasuke fast susanoo arrows even kakashi who's a 4.5 in the databook couldn't dodge that why would some active izamani for a eye that's already lost ?
What's the point of A' then? Itachi clearly says in that panel that you overlap the two incidents and thus the time between them in order to make the infinite loop. Let's review the connection between Izanagi and Izanami:
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Do not limit Izanagi to only reviving yourself from death for a second. Keep it basic. Here Itachi is describing Izanagi as a way for the user to only keep the results that are good for the user. If what the user does is not successful, he/she uses Izanagi to change those unwanted effects so it suits themselves.
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Like Itachi said, this is incredibly handy when in a life or death situation. However, he goes on saying that people became arrogant and they fought over which results they wanted. Again, Izanagi is supposed to give the best results for the user's preference. Usually this was to benefit the clan in general, but for the arrogant people, they used it for self gain instead (even if it benefits the clan less or hurts others). They fought with each other over which results would give them the better benefit, like explained on this panel. This obviously caused some conflict and damage. Since a lot of people could use it, it became an "Izanagi War" so to say.
Now you asked me why would they sacrifice their eye if the person they're saving was already going to lose their eye? Itachi clearly said that the eye wasn't all the damage that they were doing. The results they manipulated were the problem. The struggle for their own benefits, as explained above. Now look here:
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You see how there are 2 pathways? These are the choices that a person can make. Using Izanagi, they correct the wrong turns they made so it better suits them. Using Izanami, if you try to correct your mistakes and get benefit out of them, you will be dragged in an endless loop until they are forced to go through the only available choice (the X'd road). That's why the X is the last road they go through and is the only option to escape Izanami.
Hope that clears it up a bit because Izanami is a confusing jutsu.
