DSM Kabuto vs Hokages

[Inert Brian]

Hokages win, after Tobirama and Minato fail to put him down due to Orochimaru styled immortaity....Hiruzen uses RDS..


Kidomaru's webs and Kimi's bone forest are countered by Hiruzen.

Tayuya's flute would take too long since FTG users can attack him and maybe steal the flute.

White rage is a problem for Tsunade, but Hiruzen uses Enma cage, while FTG users sense Kabuto and FTG away.


Manda 2 will be distracted by Katsuyu.

4 red sun barrier (if possible here) gives them another win.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Let me correct you. If the hokages manage to win, it would still be a high diff.

Liquifieing, oral rebirth and extremely high reflexes enough to dodge point blank susanoo arrows would be a good defence against FTG rasengan. Kabuto's atack (i don't remember its name; that is like a white dragon that clashes and makes a the opponent blind and makes a lot of noise) would paralize the hokages, this means Hiruzen's and Tsunade's death. This leaves Tobirama and Minato vs Kabuto, and i don't see how they counter liquifieing and sound genjutsu.

Well then full intel as a condition too.

 

[Demonic.]

Why'd you restrict my homeboy Hashirama, Lord Kifflom? :| all bad. Lol

 

[ARGUS]

Hokages win, after Tobirama and Minato fail to put him down due to Orochimaru styled immortaity....Hiruzen uses RDS..

RDS is restricted here,

Kidomaru's webs and Kimi's bone forest are countered by Hiruzen.

How????

Tayuya's flute would take too long since FTG users can attack him and maybe steal the flute.

Lol, the moment they try to get close, they get iimmobilised

White rage is a problem for Tsunade, but Hiruzen uses Enma cage, while FTG users sense Kabuto and FTG away.

Thats provided if they can even move whilst under White Rage, let alone use the enma cage, when enma itself would be affected

Manda 2 will be distracted by Katsuyu.

How???

4 red sun barrier (if possible here) gives them another win.

Yeah, that is just making it worse since the closed location is just enhancing kabutos sound techs even more, and its just taking away the chakra from all the hokages

Why'd you restrict my homeboy Hashirama, Lord Kifflom? :| all bad. Lol

Because he would solo then, and defeats the purpose of the thread

Shouldn't Suidanha be enough to kill Manda?

No way in hell is that possible, when all that the suidana did was cut a small branch,
manda 2 is not even getting scratched

Why can't he be cut?

Because suidana has no where near the output to even scratch the colossal snake

 

[Ababeel]

Sorry, but you must some kind of retard to think Kabuto has any chance against them. Lol

 

[ARGUS]

Sorry, but you must some kind of retard to think Kabuto has any chance against them. Lol

Hence why i made the thread, because i dont see how he loses here, but i wanted to see others opinion on this

explain yourself if you think its an absurd opinion

 

[Demonic.]

Kabuto wins this in the cave. White Rage and Sound Genjutsu is too much.

 

[Penguin]

Hiruzen can literally blow away any sound genjutsu with his fuuton.

Manda II is the only problem.

 

[ARGUS]

Hiruzen can literally blow away any sound genjutsu with his fuuton.

Manda II is the only problem.

thats provided if he can move once hes under the genjutsu

 

[Brother Numpsay]

No way in hell is that possible, when all that the suidana did was cut a small branch,
manda 2 is not even getting scratched

Because suidana has no where near the output to even scratch the colossal snake
[/FONT][/COLOR]

Thats terrible reasoning on why it isn't scratching Manda. We have seen a very similar technique that uses high pressure water being able slice (inb4 mentioning it being a tongue) through metal pipes and summoning flesh with ease[

You must be registered for see links

>

You must be registered for see links

]. One can argue that Sage art version is stronger, but they both still have something that high pressure water cutter are capable of. Naturally and scientifically these high pressure attack are able to cut through stainless steel. Of course for that to happen, one would need Abrasive substance for it to work, but that should logically be replace of the fictional ability, augment chakra.

And I doubt Manda's body is harder then steel

 

[KingHashirama]

Tobirama himself is above Kabuto....... The Hokage slaughter..

 

[Beans2]

Tobirama himself is above Kabuto....... The Hokage slaughter..

New sig for me

 

[Ababeel]

Hence why i made the thread, because i dont see how he loses here, but i wanted to see others opinion on this

explain yourself if you think its an absurd opinion

Let's start with the summoning. Inside the cave, and the they are IC means Kabuto will use the same snakes he used
against the Uchiha bros. He is obviously outclassed in this category because Tsunade, Minato, and Hiruzen can summon
their own animals as well, Ktasuyu, the frogs, Enma.

Obviously Katsuyu is stronger than the snakes and counter them easily, and so can the frogs (Jiraiya destroyed 3 giant snakes when he summoned the frog in top of them. And we saw Enma cutting through them like papers. Lol

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

I think you can see the snakes being cut in half with the Tree's root, can't you?

Not to mention, unlike the battle with the uchiha bros who wanted Kabuto alive, the Hokages here wants him dead.


Kabuto's chunin level attacks that even the konoha's genin were able to defeat in part 1 is not doing jack here.
His sound jutsus can be easily countered by Hiruzen's wind attacks, so, it's useless.

and if he tried to use the dragon rage jutus, Minati can redirect it against him, and if anything, unlike itachi and Sasuke
both Minato and Tobirama are sensors, and they will be able to know about him, and will teleport away with the others throw the chakra links, assuming Kabuto can attack all of them at the same time to begin with.

Kabuto's regenerating is useless against Minato's sealing jutsus, and he will eventually get speedblitz by Minato and Tobirama to begin with, to think Kabuto will be superior to JJ Obito, and dodge their speed is utter nonsense, that does not worth to waste time explaining how that's wrong. U_U

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Ababeel, just reading the first paragraph shows you how bias your post is (didn't get to read the rest).

1.Your premise is stating that Kabuto will force himself to summon inferior version of snakes to fight with superior summoning.
2. Your premise stated they are able to use summoning, bar Hiruzen, that aren't able to fit in that cave to begin with. So what makes these character summon something thats not compatible to the location?

 

[DMT]

Why'd you restrict my homeboy Hashirama, Lord Kifflom? :| all bad. Lol

He would butt****rape him

I said it twice

 

[Ababeel]

Ababeel, just reading the first paragraph shows you how bias your post is (didn't get to read the rest).

1.Your premise is stating that Kabuto will force himself to summon inferior version of snakes to fight with superior summoning.
2. Your premise stated they are able to use summoning, bar Hiruzen, that aren't able to fit in that cave to begin with. So what makes these character summon something thats not compatible to the location?

1- Please, show us the scan of IC Kabuto using something different in that cave.
2- Except there are tons of frogs that are small and will fit perfectly, I.E Pa/Ma. And Katsuyu can divide herself, can the snakes do such thing? No.

Enma is only the size of a human, so there is not problem with him either. Sure, Kabuto could summon bigger snakes, but the cave will get destroyed, and he will lose the advantage of the location.:heh:

 

[Brother Numpsay]

1- Please, show us the scan of IC Kabuto using something different in that cave.
2- Except there are tons of frogs that are small and will fit perfectly, I.E Pa/Ma. And Katsuyu can divide herself, can the snakes do such thing? No.

Enma is only the size of a human, so there is not problem with him either. Sure, Kabuto could summon bigger snakes, but the cave will get destroyed, and he will lose the advantage of the location.:heh:

I thought your whole point was base on Hokages could summon bigger summons while Kabuto isn't. Nvm.

Either way Ma and Pa has only shown to be summon by spefic amount of chakra. It took Jiraya to use Senjutsu chakra to summon them therefore your going to have to prove how Minato is going to pull that.

 

[ARGUS]

Let's start with the summoning. Inside the cave, and the they are IC means Kabuto will use the same snakes he used
against the Uchiha bros. He is obviously outclassed in this category because Tsunade, Minato, and Hiruzen can summon
their own animals as well, Ktasuyu, the frogs, Enma.

I dont know where to start here,
Manda 2 would laugh at gamabunta and katsuyu, not that it matters since kabutos WR and Mugen Onsa are still more than capable of immobilising the summons and the hokages

Obviously Katsuyu is stronger than the snakes and counter them easily, and so can the frogs (Jiraiya destroyed 3 giant snakes when he summoned the frog in top of them. And we saw Enma cutting through them like papers. Lol

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

I think you can see the snakes being cut in half with the Tree's root, can't you?

Lol Food Cart Destroyer is not doing shit, especially when kabuto can just liquify,

Lol You mean part 1 edo hashiramas mokuton Lol
i dont see how that matters, or how on earth is that even remotely affectiing kabuto seeing how he can just liquify to laugh at enmas attacks,

Not to mention, unlike the battle with the uchiha bros who wanted Kabuto alive, the Hokages here wants him dead.
Kabuto's chunin level attacks that even the konoha's genin were able to defeat in part 1 is not doing jack here.
His sound jutsus can be easily countered by Hiruzen's wind attacks, so, it's useless.

Lol, No, His sound genjutsus would completely immobilise the hokages here,
and @Bold - Lol please, if thats the logic ur using than please stop
and Lol how is hiruzen using his fuutons once he is immobilised????,actually the better question is how would hiruzen even move once he is under the effects of the genjutsu.
and the location just enhances the effects of kabutos attacks even more,

and if he tried to use the dragon rage jutus, Minati can redirect it against him, and if anything, unlike itachi and Sasuke
both Minato and Tobirama are sensors, and they will be able to know about him, and will teleport away with the others throw the chakra links, assuming Kabuto can attack all of them at the same time to begin with.

for the FTG users, they still need the markings to teleport the targets to,
kabuto can most likely use his DSM sensing to sense the chakra infused within the seals and has Muki Tensei as well as Bracken Dance and Bone forest to destroy most of the marked locations,
@Bold - i dont really understand by what you mean here??

Kabuto's regenerating is useless against Minato's sealing jutsus, and he will eventually get speedblitz by Minato and Tobirama to begin with, to think Kabuto will be superior to JJ Obito, and dodge their speed is utter nonsense, that does not worth to waste time explaining how that's wrong. U_U

Lol, How are Minato and Tobirama even hurting kabuto???
his liquifying renders all their physical attacks useless, and his Oral Rebirth and regeneration would enable him to counter the rasengans as well,

try again

Thats terrible reasoning on why it isn't scratching Manda. We have seen a very similar technique that uses high pressure water being able slice (inb4 mentioning it being a tongue) through metal pipes and summoning flesh with ease[1>2]. One can argue that Sage art version is stronger, but they both still have something that high pressure water cutter are capable of. Naturally and scientifically these high pressure attack are able to cut through stainless steel. Of course for that to happen, one would need Abrasive substance for it to work, but that should logically be replace of the fictional ability, augment chakra.

And I doubt Manda's body is harder then steel

Please just stop, you called my logic terrrible when i have actually referred to events in the manga, yet ur using the example of a high pressure water cutting through steel, when i havnt even mentioned nor denied this claim,
not to mention that tobiramas suidanha is not infused with SM, so ur even wrong on that

the fact is that
Suidanha has no where near the cutting strength that indicates it could even scratch the snake,
the only feat it has is cutting a mere branch of the tree, which

You must be registered for see links

unless you think that madaras gunbai can cut through manda 2, then NO, suidanha is not doing shit,

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Please just stop, you called my logic terrrible when i have actually referred to events in the manga, yet ur using the example of a high pressure water cutting through steel, when i havnt even mentioned nor denied this claim,
not to mention that tobiramas suidanha is not infused with SM, so ur even wrong on that

Your logic is terrible because you are making a comparison of Mokuton durability to a Giant Snake durability. The only event the water release was at God Tree. Your basing off its feats by that when it naturally has cutting ability thats superior then the durability of steel. Why would I be wrong of a claim of Tobirama using Senjutsu, when I never said he can use Senjutsu?

the fact is that
Suidanha has no where near the cutting strength that indicates it could even scratch the snake,
the only feat it has is cutting a mere branch of the tree, which

You must be registered for see links

unless you think that madaras gunbai can cut through manda 2, then NO, suidanha is not doing shit, [/FONT][/COLOR]

Now your repeating circular reasoning. You already understood that Tobirama Suiton can naturally cut something as hard as steel and yet go back to the statement of only cutting wood. And yet try to add ABC logic on priorities.

 

[ARGUS]

Your logic is terrible because you are making a comparison of Mokuton durability to a Giant Snake durability. The only event the water release was at God Tree. Your basing off its feats by that when it naturally has cutting ability thats superior then the durability of steel. Why would I be wrong of a claim of Tobirama using Senjutsu, when I never said he can use Senjutsu?

Its because the entire claim of Suidanha even scratching manda 2 is absurd,
one just needs common sense to be able to tell that its not doing shit

Now your repeating circular reasoning. You already understood that Tobirama Suiton can naturally cut something as hard as steel and yet go back to the statement of only cutting wood. And yet try to add ABC logic on priorities.

Yes because using ABC logic is correct here, since its powerscaling and comparison

when Madaras gunbai and Tobiramas suiton both managed to cut the similar branch, that means that their cutting strength is comparable,
you clearly find it odd on madaras gunbai cutting through manda2, yet you are stating that suidanha which is still comparable to the gunbai can cut through Lol,