[VS] DSM Kabuto vs Current Kakashi

Who wins???

  • Kabuto

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  • Kakashi

    Votes: 12 63.2%

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Then he will have no idea where Kabuto will be or mirages along with blinding mist, while Kabuto can sense him.
He has 6paths chakra which is an evolved form of natural energy. Everyone with natural energy in their body can sense especially when it's a powerful one like Jubi/6path's chakra. Obito could:
 

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Flying PS is a ***** to handle. Only long range will be useful at this point. But its defence blocks 98% of anything Kabuto and his arsenals have.

Sound Genjutsu and Flying Dan ghost would suffice.

I wonder if Haku ice mirror can transport others.
Ha don't think Haku's mirrors can transport others though. Also, I think Kakashi can just fly out of the mist and use his distant techniques. The problem is Tayuya's genjutsu but that can be dealt with. Considering Temari swung her fan and dealt with the sound genjutsu, imagine what a PS Slash would do.
 

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Ha don't think Haku's mirrors can transport others though. Also, I think Kakashi can just fly out of the mist and use his distant techniques. The problem is Tayuya's genjutsu but that can be dealt with. Considering Temari swung her fan and dealt with the sound genjutsu, imagine what a PS Slash would do.
Flying out the mist =/= being able to see whats going on in the mist still. So he will have trouble aiming the exact location his enemies are.

Temari use her fan for wind currents. That is different then shockwaves. Shockwaves doesn't blow things away as the energy is too focus. So no current circulation = no sound traveling away
 

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Kamui shurukins warp all Edo while they are still in their coffins
I think sound ginjutsu isn't beating kakashi
Part 1 shikamaru could break it by breaking his finger with his shadow ,kakashi can easily counter it by bitting his lips
 
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Flying out the mist =/= being able to see whats going on in the mist still. So he will have trouble aiming the exact location his enemies are
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You have a point there but Ay and onoki couldn't see in the mist but they could see from outside and that's how they attacked both Mu and Madara. Also how are the other Edo's going to function in the mist as well? It's Zabuza's not theirs so this doesn't really help.
Anyways he can just attack them in the mist considering not even Zabuza can see while in the mist as well. Regardless his attacks like Kamui shuriken should be able to hit the shinobi's in the mist since they themselves can't even see or function well in the mist. Once the jutsu is used and he flies out, he can simply attack considering he knows their position similar to how Ay and Onoki attacked Madara and Muu.


Temari use her fan for wind currents. That is different then shockwaves. Shockwaves doesn't blow things away as the energy is too focus. So no current circulation = no sound traveling away
Doesn't matter. It would produce the same results regardless. The thing is it has more than enough force to dispel the genjutsu. A slash produces the same result or even more effective.
 

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He has 6paths chakra which is an evolved form of natural energy. Everyone with natural energy in their body can sense especially when it's a powerful one like Jubi/6path's chakra. Obito could:
You forgot Mizukage is here to which Genjutsu mist will nullify that.
 

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We dont know Madara MS abilities via right and left eyes. So bringing that up isnt helping your argument.

Naruto: No clones cannot use any ability he can. Clones cannot go full Buijuu Mode along with firing Buijudama.

Another example would be Hashirama. His clones specifies that it cannot go SM with the original caster.

So the manga displays that clones are limited to what jutsu and abilities the original can do



He isn't sniping anything off, if anything, Kabuto puts the useless ones in the front lines to go out.
Flying PS is a ***** to handle. Only long range will be useful at this point. But its defence blocks 98% of anything Kabuto and his arsenals have.

Sound Genjutsu and Flying Dan ghost would suffice.

I wonder if Haku ice mirror can transport others.
Still no valid claims proving that feat impossible. All edo's are eradicated with Ps slashes your always debating for the under dog i respect you for that but that kabuto wank ends here. Ps shockwaves obliterate all of the edo's seeing as Edo Madara is the only edo that can survive that being that he has a ps of his own. Haku mirros i slapped myself for even reading that claim.
 

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You have a point there but Ay and onoki couldn't see in the mist but they could see from outside and that's how they attacked both Mu and Madara. Also how are the other Edo's going to function in the mist as well? It's Zabuza's not theirs so this doesn't really help.
Anyways he can just attack them in the mist considering not even Zabuza can see while in the mist as well. Regardless his attacks like Kamui shuriken should be able to hit the shinobi's in the mist since they themselves can't even see or function well in the mist. Once the jutsu is used and he flies out, he can simply attack considering he knows their position similar to how Ay and Onoki attacked Madara and Muu.
1st Mei didn't make her mist thick like Zabuza.

Edos will have no problems since Kabuto is controlling them. And Kabuto sees everything the Edos are doing, no matter what distance he is from them and no barrier ninjutsu blocking his connection with them[ ]




Doesn't matter. It would produce the same results regardless. The thing is it has more than enough force to dispel the genjutsu. A slash produces the same result or even more effective.
No it doesn't as the shockwave as no current circulation. The Sound waves isn't going to follow the direction the shockwaves as the shocwave is coming from a single line cut
 

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Still no valid claims proving that feat impossible. All edo's are eradicated with Ps slashes your always debating for the under dog i respect you for that but that kabuto wank ends here. Ps shockwaves obliterate all of the edo's seeing as Edo Madara is the only edo that can survive that being that he has a ps of his own. Haku mirros i slapped myself for even reading that claim.
Yes it is valid as you have NOTHING proving that feat possible. You can argue that PS slahes to their death while ignoring the factors the Edos can do before. @Bold except it wasn't a claim
 

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1st Mei didn't make her mist thick like Zabuza.
Lol doesn't matter. It was thick enough to cloud the Rinnegan's vision.



Edos will have no problems since Kabuto is controlling them. And Kabuto sees everything the Edos are doing, no matter what distance he is from them and no barrier ninjutsu blocking his connection with them[ ]
Except Zabuza cannot see outside the mist or even see in the mist so the other Edo's won't be doing do the same.





No it doesn't as the shockwave as no current circulation. The Sound waves isn't going to follow the direction the shockwaves as the shocwave is coming from a single line cut
You don't understand. A single line cut isn't the case. The range was pretty wide considering the kages were on the ground but where still sent flying. The sound would be dispelled.
 
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Lol doesn't matter. It was thick enough to cloud the Rinnegan's vision.
I guess

Except Zabuza cannot see outside the mist or even see in the mist so the other Edo's won't be doing do the same.
He can't but Kabuto can. Therefore Kabuto can make the Edos move according to his will.

You don't understand. A single line cut isn't the case. The range was pretty wide considering the kages were on the ground but where still sent flying. The sound would be dispelled.
The range it travel is wide. The Kages were not send flying from the shockwave (otherwise they would be dead). They were send flying from the Slash leveling the ground.

You are overestimating PS shockwaves hitbox. The energy focuses on a single cut. There is no air circulation that enables the energy to blows things away like an air current. Especially when PS slashs shockwaves only come from the tip of the sword:

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He can't but Kabuto can. Therefore Kabuto can make the Edos move according to his will.
Kabuto would be in the mist as well? or not? Because if he isn't, GG straightaway. If he is, how exactly is this helping? The only way they'll be seeing Kakashi is if the edo's come out. Even if Kabuto can sense, that's not saving him and his edos included from kamui shuriken. They'll eventually be forced out of the mist. Not to mention the possibility of Kakashi being able to see outside the mist as well


The range it travel is wide. The Kages were not send flying from the shockwave (otherwise they would be dead). They were send flying from the Slash leveling the ground.

You are overestimating PS shockwaves hitbox. The energy focuses on a single cut. There is no air circulation that enables the energy to blows things away like an air current. Especially when PS slashs shockwaves only come from the tip of the sword:

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I don't think you get what I mean regarding this at all.
 

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Kabuto would be in the mist as well? or not? Because if he isn't, GG straightaway. If he is, how exactly is this helping? The only way they'll be seeing Kakashi is if the edo's come out. Even if Kabuto can sense, that's not saving him and his edos included from kamui shuriken. They'll eventually be forced out of the mist. Not to mention the possibility of Kakashi being able to see outside the mist as well
Of course he will be in the mist. He is helping by using SM senses to keep track of Kakashi[ ]. How is he able to see outside the mist? Having another point of view is going to make you less blind from seeing inside the mist.


I don't think you get what I mean regarding this at all.
Please elaborate then
 

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Kabuto takes this mid diff with Edos

If Edo Madara sets up Perfect Susanoo it would able to shield the rest of the edos, with edos they have unlimited chakra Kakashi better do something fast or its over.
 

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Of course he will be in the mist. He is helping by using SM senses to keep track of Kakashi[ ]. How is he able to see outside the mist? Having another point of view is going to make you less blind from seeing inside the mist.
Makes sense that Kakashi won't see from outside the mist but he can simply recall their positions similar to how Ay and Onoki did. From there he can attack since they won't be seeing him.

He's in the mist meaning he's going either keep avoiding Kakashi's attacks like he'll be forced to do which eventually force him out of the mist.

Not to mention Kakashi can still use his nose and his dogs alongside with the fact that he has a better sense of smell than Kiba with the fact that Kiba could still function well in smoke bombs due to his sense of smell and mind you, the rinnegan couldn't see through smoke bombs further showing why the mist won't be different for Kakashi. The worst thing is Zabuza's eyes would be shut in the mist leaving him vulnerable . Kakashi may not have to even fly out of the mist.




Please elaborate then
When Temari swung her fan, the sound genjutsu got dispelled. PS swinging its sword would result in shockwaves and eventually push back the sound genjutsu. How can you possibly think the sound genjutsu would pass through it? Lol
 

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Makes sense that Kakashi won't see from outside the mist but he can simply recall their positions similar to how Ay and Onoki did. From there he can attack since they won't be seeing him.
Ay Onoki succeed because their opponents can't adapt to hidden mist so they can't move to a safer place. So the best argument is to assume they are in the same position, which he wont be. The moment that mist starts off, Kakashi is smart enough to understand (considering he fought him twice) to find/think of the best place Zabuza would be.

He's in the mist meaning he's going either keep avoiding Kakashi's attacks like he'll be forced to do which eventually force him out of the mist.
Who is he? Kabuto? Are you forgetting they are other 29 Edos helping+summoning techniques to pressure him while he has no idea where Kabuto is?

Not to mention Kakashi can still use his nose and his dogs
True, still having 30+ stuff after him

alongside with the fact that he has a better sense of smell than Kiba with the fact that Kiba could still function well in smoke bombs due to his sense of smell and mind you, the rinnegan couldn't see through smoke bombs further showing why the mist won't be different for Kakashi.
Proof? Because it seems your basing it off by Beginning Part 2 Naruto's assumption (to where he was comparing everyone in part 1, since he last saw them).

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The worst thing is Zabuza's eyes would be shut in the mist leaving him vulnerable . Kakashi may not have to even fly out of the mist.

Once again, Kabuto is in the area simple snake summons can follow Zabuza to keep him protected from dogs.


When Temari swung her fan, the sound genjutsu got dispelled. PS swinging its sword would result in shockwaves and eventually push back the sound genjutsu. How can you possibly think the sound genjutsu would pass through it? Lol
@Bold: lol and thats where you are wrong. She didn't dispel the sound, she used her wind current to redirect it away.

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