DSM Kabuto Takes Akatsuki Gaunlet

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There are many ways to but kisame down. CQC he is superior, any strike will cause serious knock back. The force nature can even snap his neck, which Sakon can add an additional damage. But I rather finish Kabuto's 2nd exploit before going more in depth.

WD is a non factor since water is an inorganic material, while he can control on contact.

Sussanoo loses with Sound and something else that I won't tell until exploits are finish.





Depend on which poison you talking about. Smoke screen, imbedded Iron Sand? These can either be dodged or liduifying his body to dilute and remove from the body. Iron Sand gets Muki Tensei.

Kabuto already gather enough info after so no knowledge is no no. Kabuto didn't understand his perspective not his jutsu.

Seems like i'll just wait till your exploits are done ^_^
 

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It also depends on Itachi's Mindset to use Izanagi or Manga Knowledge.

Anyway he stops at 7. Clears it with Edo, since it wasn't restricted ;)


They didnt specify and the default mindset is usually to kill. Knowledge we have to assume they have manga knowledge or full ge. If edo tensei isnt restricted then he clears it. Technically kabuto would have and edo version of them and Manda V2 . White rage and bone forest is OP in certain situations. Its just too much for akatsuki to handle. The previous kages other elite ninja. Raikage is a huge help inparticular
 

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Assuming this is not in a cave ._.

What does he have to put them down?

White Rage? Whatever he does to kisame he can heal from and Itachi can put up Susano'o faster than lightning ._. not really going to be able to land a hit.

And meanwhile in WD, Kabuto's agility is severly going to be lowered....Allowing Itachi to skewer him with Totska

-Kisame can't heal from bisection, which is what he did to Itachi when they fought, nor can he heal from being crushed with Muki Tensei.

-Itachi can't use Susanoo during White Rage, the only reason he did it as an Edo is because the Edo body let him tolerate the pain easier.
 

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-Kisame can't heal from bisection, which is what he did to Itachi when they fought, nor can he heal from being crushed with Muki Tensei.

-Itachi can't use Susanoo during White Rage, the only reason he did it as an Edo is because the Edo body let him tolerate the pain easier.


-Itachi would enter Susano'o beforehand, right when the dragon is released, OP gave full intel.

-Lake would already be up and Kisame could simply delve into it, the sound would be lessened as it would not be coming from within the water source, and the light would be more tolerable as well.
 

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-Itachi would enter Susano'o beforehand, right when the dragon is released, OP gave full intel.

-Lake would already be up and Kisame could simply delve into it, the sound would be lessened as it would not be coming from within the water source, and the light would be more tolerable as well.

-Doesn't matter. Susanoo won't protect him from it as we saw in the manga. [ ]

-Then he comes out and Kabuto finishes him off.
 

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-Doesn't matter. Susanoo won't protect him from it as we saw in the manga. [ ]

-Then he comes out and Kabuto finishes him off.

Oh damn,

Then he goes underwater too lml.
 

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Loses to Itachi as shown in canon.
 

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Itachi+Kizame woop the hell out of kabuto
 

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Same as above, but more so for Itachi since he can't breathe in water.

Yes but when they come out, the light and sound would be gone :|

Meanwhile Kisamehada can sense where Kabuto is, and simply distract him long enough for Itachi to come up from the water, without being harmed
 

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Yes but when they come out, the light and sound would be gone :|

Meanwhile Kisamehada can sense where Kabuto is, and simply distract him long enough for Itachi to come up from the water, without being harmed

-He can use White Rage more than once.

-He can control the water via Muki Tensei since its not alive.

-Underwater or above water, it won't stop his Sound Genjutsu.
 

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-He can use White Rage more than once.

-He can control the water via Muki Tensei since its not alive.

-Underwater or above water, it won't stop his Sound Genjutsu.

GSB fired out of the water in Kabuto's direction, how does he counter this U_U

And technically the water Kisame uses for his Dome and what not all contain his chakra, can he still control that?
 

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GSB fired out of the water in Kabuto's direction, how does he counter this U_U

And technically the water Kisame uses for his Dome and what not all contain his chakra, can he still control that?

lol, Sound Genjutsu's usage speed>>>>>GSB's launching speed.

I doubt it, if he is still linked to it then Kabuto probably can't control it.
 

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I see a lot of pathetic arguments on Kabuto's side

I've got to clear things up here...

1 sound isn't effective under water since it blocks it... if your under water you won't be able to hear the sounds coming from outside properly

2 white rage is basically light and sounds... water deadens both...

3 inbefore "reallifelogicdoesn'tworkinmanga" - fappers

4 Itachi is living which means he feels pain so he can easily break the genjutsu the same way Shikamaru did (harming himself via ninjutsu) katon, ama, susanoo are perfect for these purpose...

5 Kisame escapes by getting his hand offended by samehada (like against Bee)

6 muki tensei doesn't have the feats to control something as big as the waterdome since those stones were way smaller

as you see ItaKisa beats him with mid diff at the best
 

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lol, Sound Genjutsu's usage speed>>>>>GSB's launching speed.

I doubt it, if he is still linked to it then Kabuto probably can't control it.

Notice how i ignored that because of how pathetic it is :|

Honestly if it was broken with pain, when Itachi is caught under he would then fall into the river, where he would begin to drown, Which should break him free, assuming that he doesn't break it beforehand, or simply because he's the master of genjutsu U_U

As for Kisame, If itachi is free, he can break him out...if not He may be able to hurt himself...

He was able to resist mind-genjutsu after all through biting his tongue same thing could apply here
 

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Notice how i ignored that because of how pathetic it is :|

I could say the same of these counters.

Honestly if it was broken with pain, when Itachi is caught under he would then fall into the river, where he would begin to drown, Which should break him free, assuming that he doesn't break it beforehand, or simply because he's the master of genjutsu U_U

lol, dafuq? Him being the master of Genjutsu doesn't mean he's going to break free from it before Kabuto decides to do something, also, really? Drowning? Why would he begin to drown when they can still talk and breathe normally? Lol

Pretty sure drowning doesn't even cause pain, it just stops you from breathing and then kills you.

As for Kisame, If itachi is free, he can break him out...if not He may be able to hurt himself...
-None of them will be free before the other gets picked off.

-I'm not seeing how Water Dome even gets put up when White Rage or the Sound Genjutsu can be activated much quicker than it.

He was able to resist mind-genjutsu after all through biting his tongue same thing could apply here

Is Mind infiltration Genjutsu the same as paralysis Genjutsu? No. Not to mention Kabuto can still kill him while he's trapped.
 

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I see a lot of pathetic arguments on Kabuto's side

No one has brought a decent argument for Akatsuki yet.


1 sound isn't effective under water since it blocks it... if your under water you won't be able to hear the sounds coming from outside properly

Um no sound can still travel underwater. Kabuto liquify himself against White Rage sound and vibrant to ease the effect via running through/travel his body smoothly, not cancel.

2 white rage is basically light and sounds... water deadens both...

You forgot one more factor. White rage also produces vibrant particles commented by Itachi [ ] 1.Light 2. Sound and 3. Vibrant. The jutsu has three effects.

3 inbefore "reallifelogicdoesn'tworkinmanga" - fappers

:|

4 Itachi is living which means he feels pain so he can easily break the genjutsu the same way Shikamaru did (harming himself via ninjutsu) katon, ama, susanoo are perfect for these purpose...

The genjutsu is much more powerful when Tayuya used it. It is powered by Senjutsu. It was already canon on how to counter Senjutsu Sound Genjutsu. First: One must have a partner Second: Your partner needs to use Yin Release on you to break out.

Itachi cannot harm himself Katon, which requires handseals. Sussanoo is far fetch to hurt yourself (Can't think of a possible scenario of this even happening). Ama is plausible but once again same method to a stronger effect of a Genjutsu is not happening here.

5 Kisame escapes by getting his hand offended by samehada (like against Bee)

Wrong, the Genjutsu effect is much stronger then when Tayuya used it.

6 muki tensei doesn't have the feats to control something as big as the waterdome since those stones were way smaller

Stones? Kabuto controlled that whole cave. Thats enough evidence that the moment he touches the non-living material, he can weave handsigns and take control of it.

as you see ItaKisa beats him with mid diff at the best

Your misconceptions were wrong and didn't even prove of them even taking Kabuto mid diff.
 

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I could say the same of these counters.



lol, dafuq? Him being the master of Genjutsu doesn't mean he's going to break free from it before Kabuto decides to do something, also, really? Drowning? Why would he begin to drown when they can still talk and breathe normally? Lol

Pretty sure drowning doesn't even cause pain, it just stops you from breathing and then kills you.


-None of them will be free before the other gets picked off.

-I'm not seeing how Water Dome even gets put up when White Rage or the Sound Genjutsu can be activated much quicker than it.



Is Mind infiltration Genjutsu the same as paralysis Genjutsu? No. Not to mention Kabuto can still kill him while he's trapped.



Bro .....

Anyways, Drowning does cause pain, it fills your insides with water, and your lungs as well, giving a sort of burning sensation.



Also i never said WD would be put up, however the lake most def. would and that's really all he needs, and he can then hide into the water and form the WD during White Rage


You act like Sound Genjutsu is a 1-KO, Shikamaru was able to prevent it, Not seeing how these guys can't

@Ej Black, The Vibrating Comes from the sound bro.....
 

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Bro .....

lmao, bro.... That requires eye contact hence it needing the Sharingan's power. They can't hit Kabuto with Ocular Genjutsu due to the fact he can fight with his eyes closed.

Anyways, Drowning does cause pain, it fills your insides with water, and your lungs as well, giving a sort of burning sensation.
Then Itachi would drown and he'd die....

Also i never said WD would be put up, however the lake most def. would and that's really all he needs, and he can then hide into the water and form the WD during White Rage
Then he picks off Itachi or lets him drown according to your strategy and then traps Kisame in Sound Genjutsu and promptly finishes him off.

You act like Sound Genjutsu is a 1-KO, Shikamaru was able to prevent it, Not seeing how these guys can't
Itachi needed Sasuke's help to break free. Not to mention I never once said its a one hit KO and no, Shikamaru never prevented it.

@Ej Black, The Vibrating Comes from the sound bro.....

No it doesn't. White Rage oscillates the air causing vibration. Sound is completely separate. In fact there is no reason why it won't work underwater.
 
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