DSM Kabuto or 6poTobi

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

Idk .. I don't want to think .. but seriously 8th gate Gai is very impressive and is above them !! =D ..


OT: i'm starting to like 8th gate Gai .. he soloes every OP XD

he almost solo'd madara when he barely could walk by himself LOL and Madara was in Juubi Mode scared as fuq

 

[FleeOnSight]

WHAT... First Off yeah maybe'

and if Naruto isn't around Itachi won't break free

Oh and if Madara turns Kabutos army solo him too

PS swing > edo army
5 tbb > edo army
Gedo mazo stomps > edo army

WHAT? kabuto can summon 7 Biju too! And aren't those Kabuto's to begin with

Nope I said what they used in the manga. Obito clearly used them and with rinnegan/chakra rods they are under his control.

 

[Lightbringer]

Well I was trying to allow both to use full power. again Kabuto may have summoned madara but he didn't control him not once. Also most edos are fodder besides the obvious Itachi nagato and that's it. The rest don't stand a chance against 5 edo jinchuuriki in full tb mode plus gedo mazo stomps. IMO

Well let's say for arguments sake that Kabuto erases their minds and has complete control. The only reason he brought them back with their minds intact was because it would demoralize the army(as stated by Kabuto)


If you recall by the way, Kabuto was the one who gave the jinchuriki to Obito. He revived them with edo tensei. Without a body to host the six paths, Obito won't be fighting with Bijuu on his side.

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

Well I was trying to allow both to use full power. again Kabuto may have summoned madara but he didn't control him not once. Also most edos are fodder besides the obvious Itachi nagato and that's it. The rest don't stand a chance against 5 edo jinchuuriki in full tb mode plus gedo mazo stomps. IMO

What? Have you seen Hanzo? His Poison solos... 3rd raikage solo 8 tails... and as for BijuDama

Muu Partical Style Atomic Dismantle No jutsu!

 

[ItachiDaSoloKing]

PS swing > edo army
5 tbb > edo army
Gedo mazo stomps > edo army


Nope I said what they used in the manga. Obito clearly used them and with rinnegan/chakra rods they are under his control.

God Mazo gets Atomized by Muu
same with TBB

and YATA tank PS SWING... Kabuto Sound Genjutsu solo Madara PS

 

[kimb]

Explain how one of them hits obito. I'll wait. Also explain how they don't get wiped out by 5 bijuu dama at once. I'll wait.

You say it as if Kabuto will summon all his edo's and have them huddled together, standing around...doing nothing.

Edo Madara + Kabuto can take on Juubito, Edo Madara + Edo Kages + Kabuto easily solo.

Have the 5 kages rush Obito along with Madara, then Kabuto can trap Juubito (sound 4 ninja) Tayuya's chains of fantasia, immobilizing him completely. Kabuto then finishes him off in anyway he wants.

You can try to say that Edo Madara can break out of edo tensei at anytime, but that's situational and debatable on its own. If there's no reason for Madara to release himself and he has free movement, he shouldn't.

 

[FleeOnSight]

God Mazo gets Atomized by Muu
same with TBB

andYATA tank PS SWING... Kabuto Sound Genjutsu solo Madara PS

Smh that's crazy

 

[FleeOnSight]

You say it as if Kabuto will summon all his edo's and have them huddled together, standing around...doing nothing.

Edo Madara + Kabuto can take on Juubito, Edo Madara + Edo Kages + Kabuto easily solo.

Have the 5 kages rush Obito along with Madara, then Kabuto can trap Juubito (sound 4 ninja) Tayuya's chains of fantasia, immobilizing him completely. Kabuto then finishes him off in anyway he wants.

You can try to say that Edo Madara can break out of edo tensei at anytime, but that's situational and debatable on its own. If there's no reason for Madara to release himself and he has free movement, he shouldn't.

Stopped reading at bold. I'll make a thread on it.

 

[KingHashirama]

They are portrayed to be equals. And have the same share in the war. Anyone who wants to disagree can disagree. However this battle will be determined by very high-diff.

 

[kimb]

Stopped reading at bold. I'll make a thread on it.

I don't know why you have to make an entire thread based on a sub debate in a thread, I'm waiting for a counter argument to all I said.

 

[Lightbringer]

Stopped reading at bold. I'll make a thread on it.

Pre-Sage Chakra Naruto and Sasuke managed to defeat Juubito.

What makes you think that Kabuto and Edo Madara couldn't?

 

[FleeOnSight]

Pre-Sage Chakra Naruto and Sasuke managed to defeat Juubito.

What makes you think that Kabuto and Edo Madara couldn't?

There is no way Kabuto could survive this.

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If it wasn't for Minato who has a jutsu neither madara nor Kabuto has the manga would've ended months ago.

Once Kabuto is dead he'd kill off madara the same way he was about to kill minato.

 

[Lightbringer]

There is no way Kabuto could survive this.

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If it wasn't for Minato who has a jutsu neither madara nor Kabuto has the manga would've ended months ago.

Once Kabuto is dead he'd kill off madara the same way he was about to kill minato.

Well here's the thing.

Madara has preta path and Susanoo to protect Kabuto. TBB is chakra.

besides, Naruto and Sasuke fought Obito on their own and Obito never used the barrier + TBB again.

 

[FleeOnSight]

I don't know why you have to make an entire thread based on a sub debate in a thread, I'm waiting for a counter argument to all I said.

No need to counter argue you're points. What you fail to realize is no matter what scenarios you place in kabutos favor there is no way in hell someone with obitos ability(kamui) mokuton rinnegan gedo mazo and 5 tailed beast could get STOMPED which is exactly what you're implying. No matter what happens neither side wins easily. You need to realize that.

 

[FleeOnSight]

Well here's the thing.

Madara has preta path and Susanoo to protect Kabuto. TBB is chakra.

besides, Naruto and Sasuke fought Obito on their own and Obito never used the barrier + TBB again.

Well that's a strong statement tho true I doubt he could use preta path and susanoo at the same time and I also doubt he could absorb 4 tbb going off at the same time. Also I'm not sure susanoo could tank it and I think madara might agree. It's just too much. But it's pure speculation

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And at your last sentence was pure plot and once it was 2v1 it turned into talk no jutsu.

 

[VongolaX]

Obito threaten to kill kabuto for not spilling out the secrets of Edo tensei....

Kabuto humbley obeyed U_U

Edo Madara with an additional summoning, like akatsuki would be too much for Obito.

If not, black rods will submit them or Gedo dragon/human path soul rip

 

[HiddenSound]

It's debatable how far Kabuto can control Madara. I personally think if he inserts a sealing talisman, which he would, he could control Madara fully (though at the cost of Madara's intelligence). I say that because Madara chose to "break" Kabuto's control over him when Kabuto had no control over anything.
With Edo Tensei, I think Kabuto could beat Tobi.

 

[Lightbringer]

Well that's a strong statement tho true I doubt he could use preta path and susanoo at the same time and I also doubt he could absorb 4 tbb going off at the same time. Also I'm not sure susanoo could tank it and I think madara might agree. It's just too much. But it's pure speculation

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And at your last sentence was pure plot and once it was 2v1 it turned into talk no jutsu.

I don't see why he can't use both at the same time. Susanoo user have shown to use abilities with Susanoo active

Preta Path can absorb an Infinite amount of chakra, so I don't think it's impossible.

Also I wouldn't be surprised if Preta Path was a key factor for Hagoromo winning the battle against the Juubi.

 

[kimb]

There is no way Kabuto could survive this.

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If it wasn't for Minato who has a jutsu neither madara nor Kabuto has the manga would've ended months ago.

Once Kabuto is dead he'd kill off madara the same way he was about to kill minato.

Didn't the people he used that attack on end up outliving Obito? Didn't Obito get solo'd by talk no jutsu? I cant remember. Skimmed mad hard on the Obito chapters.

 

[FleeOnSight]

I don't see why he can't use both at the same time. Susanoo user have shown to use abilities with Susanoo active

Preta Path can absorb an Infinite amount of chakra, so I don't think it's impossible.

Also I wouldn't be surprised if Preta Path was a key factor for Hagoromo winning the battle against the Juubi.

Well I can agree to that

Didn't the people he used that attack on end up outliving Obito? Didn't Obito get solo'd by talk no jutsu? I cant remember. Skimmed mad hard on the Obito chapters.

What does that have to do with anything.