DSM Kabuto > Hiruzen

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Settling an argument here... Anyone disagree?
 

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Disagreed.
 

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Disagree. Hiruzen wins high diff. Prime hiruzen wins neg diff.
 

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kabutos words
 

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Sage Mode Kabuto is HIGHLY under estimated because he was defeated in his first showing of power by a bullshit Uchiha power.

He would do very well against almost any other adversary.
Sage mode is a rare thing in itself, and everybody who has achieved it has a legendary status because of it.
Kabuto would have been no different in that regard.
 

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Well no shit.

Hiruzen is barely top 20
 

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hmm what does this jutsu do? :dunno: does it restrict movement, vision, & hearing?

This is what it does

After forming the necessary hand seals, the user expels a dragon-like entity from their mouth that carries an orb in its left front claw. As the dragon tightly coils itself around the orb, it releases both blinding light and deafening sound. This alone greatly hinders those in the vicinity but, due to the intensity of the resulting vibrations, paralysing pain is also induced. Thus, the technique both briefly inhibits the opponent's senses, as well as techniques that require their active concentration.
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Sage Mode Kabuto is HIGHLY under estimated because he was defeated in his first showing of power by a bullshit Uchiha power.

He would do very well against almost any other adversary.
Sage mode is a rare thing in itself, and everybody who has achieved it has a legendary status because of it.
Kabuto would have been no different in that regard.

If Izanami is a bull azzpull power then so is Kabuto's ability to block out ocular genjutsu with his real life snake ability Lol
if he had that then why did he hide his face under a hood all the time for the exact same reason which was to block vision of the sharingan ocular powers. Kishi thought of both those powers for the sake of the fight and isn't actually any azzpull.
 

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How does Hiruzen counter Hakugeki?

Hakugeki no Jutsu

GG Thanks for playing.

Hiruzen can counter Hakugeki by creating a large amount of water and submerging in it. As we all know sound cannot travel from air to water and vice versa so hiruzen won't be affected by the techniques sound.

Hiruzen has shown keen senses. He was able to find hashirama and tobirama even when they used bringer of darkness against him so hiruzen has no problem fighting while blinded.

Kabuto like suigetsu will be vulnerable to hiruzen's massive lightning release attacks. Which can easily subdue him should he try to use the hydryfication technique.

Kabuto also ain't suprising hiruzen with oro style replacement and other snake related techniques since hiruzen was oro's teacher and also fought oro.

The best kabuto can hope for is to outlast hiruzen since he has better stamina or use edo tensei and seal the old monkey's fate
 

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Hiruzen would be in a genjutsu even before either one of them could use ninjutsu
 

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Iruka, Ch.94

特に歴代の中でも最強�� �� �� �� �� �� �� �� � �言

「三代目は



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われポロフェッサーと呼ばれた�� �� �� �� �� �� �� �� �� ��

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だったんだぞ!」

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"The sandaime, in particular, was a genius nicknamed the 'Professor,' and was called

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the strongest of all the Hokage".

the Sandaime was the strongest.




Databook 1, Page 117 "プロフェッサー"と崇められる歴�� �� �� �� �� �� �� �最 強の火影

The "Professor" revered as the strongest Hokage in history.

Databook 1, Page 119 "歴代最強""天才"など,三代目火影�� �� �� �� �� �� �� �� �形 容す る言葉はに満ちている.

"History's Strongest", "Genius", etc., there are many words that describe the Sandaime Hokage.

DB2 Pg 84 Konohamaru paragraph: 歴代最強の火影と謳われた、

を継ぐ木ノ葉丸。“木ノ葉崩し�� �� �� �� �� �� �� �� �� ��よ

その�� �� �� �� �� �� �� �� �は 悲しみに

り敬愛する祖父を失い
覆われる。だが必ずや里を�� �� �� �� �� �� �� �� � �る大樹に成 長するであろう。果て�� �� �� �� �� �� �� �� �� ��標の祖父を 目指して・ ・・!!Konohamaru, descended from Sandaime, who was praised as history’s strongest Hokage.
 

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Hiruzen can counter Hakugeki by creating a large amount of water and submerging in it. As we all know sound cannot travel from air to water and vice versa so hiruzen won't be affected by the techniques sound.

Hiruzen has shown keen senses. He was able to find hashirama and tobirama even when they used bringer of darkness against him so hiruzen has no problem fighting while blinded.

Kabuto like suigetsu will be vulnerable to hiruzen's massive lightning release attacks. Which can easily subdue him should he try to use the hydryfication technique.

Kabuto also ain't suprising hiruzen with oro style replacement and other snake related techniques since hiruzen was oro's teacher and also fought oro.

The best kabuto can hope for is to outlast hiruzen since he has better stamina or use edo tensei and seal the old monkey's fate

That will not work.

he would have to do that before he uses the jutsu. as he will be paralyzed and unable to cast a jutsu. hiruzen has no intel on the jutsu so i doubt he would even know to do that. besides hiruzen does not have such a jutsu. No one but kisame has a jutsu to submerge themselves in water.

Iruka, Ch.94

特に歴代の中でも最強�� �� �� �� �� �� �� �� � �言

「三代目は



==============================

われポロフェッサーと呼ばれた�� �� �� �� �� �� �� �� �� ��

==============================

だったんだぞ!」

==============================

"The sandaime, in particular, was a genius nicknamed the 'Professor,' and was called

=======

the strongest of all the Hokage".

the Sandaime was the strongest.




Databook 1, Page 117 "プロフェッサー"と崇められる歴�� �� �� �� �� �� �� �最 強の火影

The "Professor" revered as the strongest Hokage in history.

Databook 1, Page 119 "歴代最強""天才"など,三代目火影�� �� �� �� �� �� �� �� �形 容す る言葉はに満ちている.

"History's Strongest", "Genius", etc., there are many words that describe the Sandaime Hokage.

DB2 Pg 84 Konohamaru paragraph: 歴代最強の火影と謳われた、

を継ぐ木ノ葉丸。“木ノ葉崩し�� �� �� �� �� �� �� �� �� ��よ

その�� �� �� �� �� �� �� �� �は 悲しみに

り敬愛する祖父を失い
覆われる。だが必ずや里を�� �� �� �� �� �� �� �� � �る大樹に成 長するであろう。果て�� �� �� �� �� �� �� �� �� ��標の祖父を 目指して・ ・・!!Konohamaru, descended from Sandaime, who was praised as history’s strongest Hokage.

Oh look outdated information...hmm look part one chapters.... is that databook one?? only information from part one?? lol as if the data books dont change. in data book 2 madara was tobi....data books only give guidlines they are not absolute law. people act as if kishimoto does not change his mind.
 
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