DRSM Madara or Rinnegan Sasuke

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It makes total sense.

Susanoo is a Sharingan feat and Hagoromo's eyes do not possess Sharingan jutsu.

Sharingan and Rinnegan are two separate powers and only Kaguya's and Sasuke's eye can possess both. The moment Madara possessed double Rinnegan the Sharingan chakra his brain produces disappears because it fully converts into Hagoromo's chakra.

Edo Madara could use it because he didn't possess the real Rinnegan, Edo is basically an excuse for Kishi to apply his retcons

Only in your imagination or like Bane(Batman) said "For You"

The moment Madara awaken his Rinnegan eyes, his chakra completely change into Six Path chakra. How's your thinking works here is like "If Madara pull out his Rinnegan eye his chakra return back to be Uchiha chakra and vice versa".

Its not like that. Madara still can used Susanoo even when his charka no longer Indra/Uchiha. Manga supported it.

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I thought madara flew into the air after because he was leaving not because he needed to its not like his limbo body slowly appears as he moved out of the way for it the body was there and he switched with it therefore allowing him to not be hit by the attack and be paralyzed so the limbo acted as almost a shell of protection.

The point is that you need to physically remove yourself from the area to leave your clone behind.

-Madara gets hit.
-Escapes and leaves Limbo behind it's place. It didn't act as a shell of protection because he still got struck by their jutsu. He was just able to switch out with his clone and then escape.

I agree that it is slightly different because a different version of his character used it but then again obito couldn't use kamui after becoming a JJ so same logic may apply to susanoo for some odd reason.
as for the rest I have no argument I haven't seen any scans to disprove or prove anything

Yeah, Kamui and Susanoo may be both MS techs but they don't work the same way at all. Not to mention Obito only said he can't slip through things. Not that Kamui as a whole was useless.

I guess the rest of my argument then goes to the wood clones, if madara can use susanoo with wood clones (if he has enough chakra to do so) then wouldn't he stomp? Arguing that he can't use perfect susanoo with wood clones has no evidence for or against it but I'd say more for it considering it created massive walking susanoo
I believe using multiple susanoo would put him above sasuke and since he did 25 while an edo and its been argued that you just have unlimited chakra refill not unlimited chakra, then alive madara could do that considering he is more powerful then edo, maybe not with the stamina to keep them all up for as long but he could just use less.

Alive Madara could make 25 Susanoo clones, but PS takes way more chakra than Legged Susanoo so there's no way to argue that DRSM Madara has enough power to use PS w/ clones. There is no real or even borderline convincing argumentation that could support him being able to split his chakra among clones and still be able to use PS.

If he could make more than one they wouldn't be as strong as the original just like when Madara made clones w/ Susanoo against the Gokage, and even the original can't do anything to Sasuke's PS so adding more won't change that unless they have some way to combine their power.

It makes total sense.

Susanoo is a Sharingan feat and Hagoromo's eyes do not possess Sharingan jutsu.

Sharingan and Rinnegan are two separate powers and only Kaguya's and Sasuke's eye can possess both. The moment Madara possessed double Rinnegan the Sharingan chakra his brain produces disappears because it fully converts into Hagoromo's chakra.

Edo Madara could use it because he didn't possess the real Rinnegan, Edo is basically an excuse for Kishi to apply his retcons

Hagoromo's eyes aren't Madara's eyes so that's a pretty moot point to bring. Madara's eyes possess the abilities of his Rinnegan and his Sharingan and that's a fact. You just made up most of the nonsense in this post meanwhile I have scans of Edo Madara using Sharingan abilities and Alive Madara w/ Rinnegan using Sharingan abilities.


And that last sentence of course is based on literally nothing.
 

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The ones who think Sasuke wins are the ones with the fallacy that Sasuke was genetically given half of Hagoromo's Chakra, when what had half of Hagoromo's Chakra was the Yin Seal - completely separate from Sasuke's natural reserves, hence why he manually extracted Chakra from the seal influencing the color of his Chidori. If Sasuke was actually given such quantity of Rikudou's Chakra, we would see him casually levelling up moons; we instead saw the fire-power of his PS is more or less the same as EMS Madara's.

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Perfect Susanoo cancel out each other, it's then base capabilities. Madara has superior Rinnegan, Katon's and CQC and so Madara beats him.
 

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half of Hagoromo's chakra made Rinnegan sasuke way stronger then DRSM Madara he almost equal to 1eye jj madra

3eye jj madara>2eye jj madara>=rinnagan+ems sasuke with biju/bps>>>>>1eye jj madara>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DRSM Madara>>>>>>EMS madara>EMS sasuke
 
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The ones who think Sasuke wins are the ones with the fallacy that Sasuke was genetically given half of Hagoromo's Chakra, when what had half of Hagoromo's Chakra was the Yin Seal - completely separate from Sasuke's natural reserves, hence why he manually extracted Chakra from the seal influencing the color of his Chidori. If Sasuke was actually given such quantity of Rikudou's Chakra, we would see him casually levelling up moons; we instead saw the fire-power of his PS is more or less the same as EMS Madara's.

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Perfect Susanoo cancel out each other, it's then base capabilities. Madara has superior Rinnegan, Katon's and CQC and so Madara beats him.
Madara Rules, is that you?

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JJ Madara can't react to ameno.

Any lower form dies from amenon blitz.
 

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Sasuke wins Mid difficulty.
 

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Madara gets blown off the face of the Earth.
 

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Nice thread, i always thought DRSM madara can handle sasuke, it would be a high diff for the victor though, adult sasuke and sasuke withBPS definately >>> DRSM Madara, but vote sasuke without bijuu chakra is roughly on the same level as madara with both rinnegan and SM, why? Cuz;
- amaterasu and any fire style or elemental attack is useless to madara
- genjutsu is useless
- even if sasuke has more yin chakra madara has yang chakra to compensate
- madara is more versatile
- yang chakra grants madara stronger and more durable body
- it will all come down to PS vs PS and they'll be around the same level except madara has SS, wood dragon, wood golem and limbo
 

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Nice thread, i always thought DRSM madara can handle sasuke, it would be a high diff for the victor though, adult sasuke and sasuke withBPS definately >>> DRSM Madara, but vote sasuke without bijuu chakra is roughly on the same level as madara with both rinnegan and SM, why? Cuz;
- amaterasu and any fire style or elemental attack is useless to madara
- genjutsu is useless
- even if sasuke has more yin chakra madara has yang chakra to compensate
- madara is more versatile
- yang chakra grants madara stronger and more durable body
- it will all come down to PS vs PS and they'll be around the same level except madara has SS, wood dragon, wood golem and limbo

This is what Im saying everyone assumes that sasuke getting his power up after madara means its more powerful like no dude Madara can use susanoo along with those wood constructs to obliterate sasuke's PS along with hash's healing factor and preta path none of sasuke's enton will remotely work and saying ameno gg is bs because he reacted to ameno as a jj by switching places with his limbo
 
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