[Theory] (DrProof) Tsukuyomi's Weakness | Range

[Mr Hiru]

I repeat. I didn't say Tsukuyomi>Anything else AND I know that every technique has a weakness but Tsukuyomis weakness is NOT DISTANCE cuz it is the EYESIGHT of the Tsukuyomi user. Hm actualy eyesight is a bit connected to distance but EYESIGHT and DISTANCE aren't the same ya know.

I didn't criticize your statement. Did you read mine?

And by the way, you don't have any proof against OP. Your statement could be complementary.

 

[Mejkl3]

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The red is Danzo, the blue is Sasuke. No way in hell is that math correct. The distance has to be 8-9 meters at most still staying within the "short range" estimation.

The meters caculating short, mid, and long aren't really correct. It's all mere speculation.

I respect your opinions but I'm sorry but you I need to disaprove now cause you didn't click on my links pictures. You need to analyze the moment when he actualy used Tsukuyomi and not subjectvly (or however it is spelled) on a another picture where he didn't used Tsukuyomi.

 

[yondaime4]

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The red is Danzo, the blue is Sasuke. No way in hell is that math correct. The distance has to be 8-9 meters at most still staying within the "short range" estimation.

The meters caculating short, mid, and long aren't really correct. It's all mere speculation.

i duno if your math is correct either if the pillar is 8-9 meters high and sasuke is a few meters away that easily qualifies as mid range even though i think the pillar was more than 10 meters high but point is that its perfectly logical to think eye sight effects the jutsu and itachis eye sight wasnt great hence the short range.

but im just trying to get under your skin, i already said that i agreed with your op

 

[Mejkl3]

I didn't criticize your statement. Did you read mine?

And by the way, you don't have any proof against OP. Your statement could be complementary.

Even Itachi stated every technique has a weakness. If you can't accept something that even Itachi said, then I'll just let you be... because you are blind already.

First of all YES I did read your statement.

Second you said im blind and that i cannot accept YOUR opinion that means that you criticize my opinion on the theme.

Third I made alredy some proofs after you posted the first quote.

 

[Bijuu13]

People should've known that it was a short range jutsu ever sense:

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failed attempt

He uses katon and shurikens until he is close, and that's when he wants to put you under genjutsu. He tries this against Bee as well.

 

[DrProof]

I respect your opinions but I'm sorry but you I need to disaprove now cause you didn't click on my links pictures. You need to analyze the moment when he actualy used Tsukuyomi and not subjectvly (or however it is spelled) on a another picture where he didn't used Tsukuyomi.

No I did click on your links, I just didn't really see the difference. Could you explain it a bit more. Without the math

i duno if your math is correct either if the pillar is 8-9 meters high and sasuke is a few meters away that easily qualifies as mid range even though i think the pillar was more than 10 meters high but point is that its perfectly logical to think eye sight effects the jutsu and itachis eye sight wasnt great hence the short range.

but im just trying to get under your skin, i already said that i agreed with your op

No I'm saying the 8-9 meters is the total distance between the pillar, and Sasuke's location. See Sasuke is basically located on elevated rock in the panel in which he uses Tsukuyomi on Danzo. So that elevated rock could have possibly up the meters between the two.

 

[Chīkara]

Sasuke used it at distance against bee or am i wrong here ?

 

[The Big Boss]

Thanks guys, and big boss, you are truly the smartest member on NB.

now this theory is correct

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thank you xd

 

[DrProof]

People should've known that it was a short range jutsu ever sense:

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He uses katon and shurikens until he is close, and that's when he wants to put you under genjutsu. He tries this against Bee as well.

I can't disagree here.

Sasuke used it at distance against bee or am i wrong here ?

Hm, I'll have to check the manga chapter. But I believe so, but then again Sasuke is more profound with Amaterasu, I wouldn't put it past him if he could use Amaterasu as short ranges.

 

[Mejkl3]

No I did click on your links, I just didn't really see the difference. Could you explain it a bit more. Without the math

I'm sorry but how can it be without math logical xD? Well im a good at maths and logical stuff (so have been I told by many people) and I will explain it better in a new thread (gona post you link when I did it but not today cuz its midnight and I am tooo tired to make a thread right now)

 

[Bijuu13]

Sasuke used it at distance against bee or am i wrong here ?

Lol

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Oh and wrong. They're face to face

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[DrProof]

now this theory is theory is correct

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thank you xd

Indeed my bro.

I'm sorry but how can it be without math logical xD? Well im a good at maths and logical stuff (so have been I told by many people) and I will explain it better in a new thread (gona post you link when I did it but not today cuz its midnight and I am tooo tired to make a thread right now)

Math, and me.. Don't go well. I'll wait and see that thread, I'll bring my best efforts in countering it.

 

[Mejkl3]

Sasuke used it at distance against bee or am i wrong here ?

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Not really ... I would say It's about 4-5 meters.

 

[DarkWolf Nashoba]

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Sasuke is around 170 cm s high

And the pillar is like 5 times higher than him (if we count the small pillar)

That means the pillar is 850 cm high and then we mus count the distance from the pillar ground to Sasuke

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I would say 10 meters (counting it with Sasukes height and the help of the blocks on the bridge)

So that means x"2=a"2+b"2 => Distance from Danzo to Sasuke"2 = Ground distance"2 + High distance"2 which is

Dis."2=10m"2+8,5m"2
Dis."2=100m+72,5m
Dis."2=172,5m
Distance between Sasuke and Danzo= 13,13m (which is mid and next to close range)

But btw you are riight techniques are more effective if the user uses them close range.

EDIT: Apologizes images were broken so I putted the links to them.

Hooray for reference triangles and approximate arithmetic...

If I'm not mistaken, Sasuke was using Tsukuyomi himself for the first time during the battle with Danzō, correct?
He was an arrogant/overconfident noob when trying to use Tsukuyomi at that range.
I'd like to hypothesize that -- in addition to the experience/capabilities of the user -- the effectiveness of Tsukuyomi may also depend on the range at which it is used.
When Itachi used it, he always did so at a maximum of about five meters from his target.
Sasuke, on the other hand, was inexperienced and tried in vain to use it to his advantage at too great a distance.
There's minimal evidence to support my claim, but it serves as another thought to consider, rather than the unfounded proposition that "Your eyesight determines its range!"

 

[The Big Boss]

Indeed my bro.

excuse my typo, my internet connection was acting up, i just fixed it.

indubitably

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[Mejkl3]

Math, and me.. Don't go well. I'll wait and see that thread, I'll bring my best efforts in countering it.

Can't wait for it but don't forget we are logical people and emotions and fanboyism are not allowed in our opinions xD

EDIT: Btw good luck

 

[Wave.]

Yeah any long-range ninja can avoid Tsukuyomi, like Hashirama, Deidara, and etc.

 

[yondaime4]

No I'm saying the 8-9 meters is the total distance between the pillar, and Sasuke's location. See Sasuke is basically located on elevated rock in the panel in which he uses Tsukuyomi on Danzo. So that elevated rock could have possibly up the meters between the two.

ok well then your clearly grasping at straws, i guess we will just agree to disagree

 

[DarkWolf Nashoba]

Math, and me.. Don't go well. I'll wait and see that thread, I'll bring my best efforts in countering it.

Utilizing a reference triangle as he did was indeed the simplest and most efficient way to go about estimating a rough distance between Sasuke and Danzō in that picture. I agree with his approximation, for the most part. I probably would've come up with about the same numbers.

EDIT:
I realized after writing some of what I did that I sounded like a pompous @$$hole, so I deleted some of the not-so-relevant, self-glorifying material contained within this post.

 

[cptenn94]

the reason that tsukyomi does not work well long range, is it requires DIRECT eye contact, not just the tsukyomi user to look in the other persons eyes, but the target to look in the users eyes. After a certain range, the human eye is not capable of direct eye contact, as the human eye is in focus of just the users head. I personally would give tsukyomi a effective range of about 10-20 meters. It would have a max range of at best 50 meters. Amatersu is a bit different, as it only requires the user to be able to see the target, and can target anything.

As itachi had deteriorateing eyesight, his range was even less than many people, and was probably limited to around 20 meters max range and 5-10 effective range


Either way great analysis of tsukuyomi Dr Proof.