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Kidōmaru effortlessly destroys Tsunade without Katsuyu on her side; However, with Katsuyu's assistance the difficulty rises to high - extremely high difficulty.
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Kidōmaru effortlessly destroys Tsunade without Katsuyu on her side; However, with Katsuyu's assistance the difficulty rises to high - extremely high difficulty.
Kidōmaru actually has no way of defeating Katsuyu, I just want to put that out in the open right now. However, what Kidōmaru does possess is a way to completely counter her only method of offense; Acid. Katsuyu's acid is incredibly potent, being able to completely
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. However, rock, and gold are not the same properities, while rock has little, to no resistance against acid, gold itself has high resistance against the corrosive element; only naturally able to be dissolved by Aqua Regia (acid), while the most commonly used acid (Sulfuric Acid) does not dissolve gold. I will however, (since we don't know what properties Katsuyu's Acid carries) consider her acid to be of the Aqua Regia origins. Watch this video on Acid (Aqua Regia) dissolving Gold: It took nearly two minutes for the the gold coin to be completely dissolved, while in the beginning, the acid hardly affected the gold. This means two things: I. Kidōmaru easily has an ample amount of time to counter the acid (estimating 30 secs to 1 min) II. Katsuyu's acid will not be much of an issue as I previously thought Another reason why Kidōmaru can easily counter the usually unorthodox corrosion is due to the fact that once he has the
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, application of the gold armor is basically a natural instinct, the armor is literally instant on activation, as seen against Neji, who had
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but in actuality Kidōmaru in that very same scan had already activated his gold armor. Here Neji
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as he himself is in shock that Kidōmaru had taken no damage from the sixty-four palms technique.Kidōmaru then goes on to confirm this even further giving us the rundown on the technique; it being able to
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.Kidōmaru is also able to
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, meaning that Katsuyu's acid once again is rendered useless, as once it comes in contact with Kidōmaru's skin, the sweat glands would emit the gold armor, removing the corrosive element completely. Overall, Kidōmaru only needs to activate his sticky gold armor, to keep Katsuyu's offensive tactics at bay.Tsunade is a f*ckin monster in CQC, I'll give her that, and once Kidōmaru is in her range for a clear shot he'd more than likely die. However, I'd like to give validity to his possible survival if Tsunade DID indeed catch him in CQC range (highly unlikely). Previously established, Kidōmaru's sticky gold armor is instant in activation, literally I'd estimate the rate of surfacing from the sweat glands is easily equal if not slightly less than milliseconds in deployment, as seen vs Neji. Now taking that into consideration, Kidōmaru can deploy a simple tactic to increase his resistance against Tsunade's natural monster strength: I. Tsunade strikes II. Kidōmaru's gold armor is deployed III. Tsunade breaks layer of gold armor IV. Kidōmaru quickly emits a new layer V. Rinse & Repeat
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Yes this is possible, and yes it is an easy tactic to lessen Tsunade's overall striking strength against himself, as the gold armor rises above the skin (acting as a new layer of skin all together), meaning the original skin's sweat glands can still emit another layer of gold armor. Kidōmaru can apply this tactic countless of times because his reaction speed in regards to this applying this jutsu is abnormally quick. Now on to the original topic of this section. Keeping Tsunade at bay, and ways away from entering Kidōmaru's CQC range. Tsunade is out of her sorts against Kidōmaru due to him being in his natural affinity; the forest. The forest is home to a plethora of insects, this gives Kidōmaru, as well his spiders the perfect camouflage against Tsunade's upfront skill-set. Note; at thirty meters Kidōmaru would easily have time to
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into
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. As seen from Neji's reaction to the instant disappearance of Kidōmaru, he was both silent, and quick; Kidōmaru would easily distance himself from Tsunade from the get-go. Once Kidōmaru had distanced himself at a minimum of fifty meters, he'd summon Kyodaigumo:
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Take into mind that; Average sized spiders lay around 100 eggs. Large ones lay up to 2,000, but small ones only lay 1 or 2. Kyodaigumo literally means Giant Spider as the Databook clearly states.
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500-1,000 spiders
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, and up to 2,000 maximum per egg sac; Kyodaigumo easily
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, Kidōmaru even supported such a claim, as he himself stated: "
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" in regards to the spiders, symbolizing Kyodaigumo had laid another egg sac in obscurity. Then
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, they'd spread, as the Databook once again implies they do not attack randomly, but strategically.The spiders, along with Kyodaigumo have descended, and spread out into the forest, who then on Kidōmaru's command will hurriedly rush over to Tsunade's location using the forest trees as camouflage. Kidōmaru can, and will easily keep watch of Tsunade's positioning in base as seen here, Kidōmaru had been striking Neji from
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. Not only that, Kidōmaru was
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, in probably the most intellectual, and strategic way we've seen in the manga; proving he has supernatural vision. Bar only being the Byakugan. Once Kidōmaru's spiders are set in stone,
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filled with chakra (refer back to DB scan above). Tsunade's only way of counter is literally causing huge fissures in the ground, and even then she's still doomed, as Kyodaigumo would continue to lay more egg sacs hundreds of meters away from the initial scene, then those spiders would rely Kidōmaru's previous command, and the cycle of swarming Tsunade begins once again. 50+ meters away Kidōmaru is able to not only see his target clearly, but
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, as he did against Neji; Neji was only able to counter (hardly) due to the Byakugan, something Tsunade does not have. This alone would kill Tsunade since
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. Tsunade by then should already be dead, after analyzing her self-regeneration/healing Kidōmaru would easily deduce a head-shot would be in order for a complete kill.Kidōmaru's visionary prowess exceeds all Doujutsu, except the Byakugan. Not only does Kidōmaru's base vision allow him to see up to 50 meters easily (he could more than likely push it by 10 - 20 more meters in base), with the implication of his third eye, his accuracy increases giving him another visionary increase of up to 100 meters!
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That's easily 150+ meters of visionary range! In the above Databook scan "even from distances he cannot be sensed", Kidōmaru is literally the best hunter-ninja the manga has ever introduced. On top of all this his Third Eye allows him to not only locate vital spots, but incredibly allow him such pinpoint accuracy to
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(his arrow only failed due to the miscalculation the force of impact regarding the tree would cause, which then changed the trajectory of his arrow; he quickly corrected the problem,
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). Even
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(which would be around 20-25 meters extra; upping his max range by 170+ meters!)But the most interesting, and incredible parts about Kidōmaru's vision as a whole, is that
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. As well even in Base, his
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. A true monster in the art of perception.Literally, Kidōmaru is one of the smartest characters we've seen in the manga, matched with the likes of Shikamaru Nara, who he even fooled with not a double trap, but a triple trap. But that isn't what's impressive about Kidōmaru, the man has been the
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, off of pure theory! Of course the theory was flawlessly tested by yours truly, but even so I can think of no one else, but Shikamaru who could have come up with a similar resolution in regards to the Hyuuga clan's weakness.Kidōmaru is a strategic genius, and I don't use the word genius lightly. The guy
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, then
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more,
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he had gathered in his battle against Neji it was all used to configure how Neji was countering all, but some attacks from every directions, and where his assumed (through theory, and speculation) blind spot was located. His intelligence was underplayed, and I hope I've brought this genius some limelight. Recognizing Tsunade hadn't died from normal means, Kidōmaru would quit playing games, as he did with Neji increasing his overall output by a lot. When Kidōmaru gets serious, not only does his accuracy increase, but the sheer power of his techniques upscale by 100% (along with his accuracy), as seen here:
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only using 100% accuracy with a non-drilled arrow which caused a crater. Then later
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, his damage was
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by a significant margin as seen here.But wait, there's more! It not only increased his accuracy, and damage output, but also his SPEED! Byakugan which allows the user to see hundreds of meters away, was
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, and Kidōmaru himself knew so!
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Tsunade does not possess the capabilities to defeat Kidōmaru, as she would not be able to counter the sheer speed, and force of his arrows, well as wouldn't even be aware of his overall presence due to being 170+ meters away! Tsunade would get a perfectly routed arrow through her skull, and die. I'm sorry to admit this, but Kidōmaru completely outclasses Tsunade, a Mid/High Kage shinobi! |
I'm trying to bring out some good debaters! Let's go, this is all in fun, trying to bring underrated characters into the limelight!
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