[Discussion] Drives behind human behavior: A brief but informative psychological perspective

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Recently the post about men being *** driven was closed before I could respond and I have some things to say:

This question cannot be taken with a closed mind simply viewing men as animals. Science and philosophical explanations have theories for these types of questions.

*just a disclaimer; Theories are ideas, nothing more, nothing less. That being said I've noticed a lot on these forums that many people always post "new theory" or "Theory proven". Theories can never be proven "correct" but only proven to be less "incorrect"i.e. obtain falsifiability. Also hypotheses support theories, not the other way around. With that being said the below information is all theory which means you can believe what you want but much of the information has validity....except frued ha his ideas are a little funny but insightful

First: It is assumed that humans are naturally hedonistic (hedonism), meaning that we tend to minimize pain and maximize pleasure in any way possible. Now this doesn't explain why men are *** driven but this can relate to the Freudian perspective of the unconscious mind. Frueds suggests that we are born with instincts to be naturally agressive and operate off what he calls the "id" (pronounced "iiidd"). The id is what first develops as we are born into this world and essentially operates off a hedonistic principle, which again states that humans generally want to minimize pain and maximize pleasure. This seems logical because as an infant obtaining what is needed food,care,warmth,i.e.pleasure, is crucial to survival. What should be noted is that the word "pleasure" should not be exclusively associated with *** but more in terms of physiological needs, specifically the hypothalamus, which controls ***/hunger drives (obviously more than just the hypothalamus is included in drives, e.g. nervous systems, etc but thats another topic of itself). Now drive theory states that we operate solely to satisfy the needs of the body, so the greater the drive the more effort will be put forth to reduce the drive and bring the body back to equilibrium. To put this in perspective suppose you are hungry; your consciousness and body will alert you to satisfy your hunger drive by getting something to eat. Now applying this to other topics, e.g. ***, it can be seen that possible reasons why some males want to "have ***" all the time may be that simply they have high *** drive and instinctually need to satisfy physiological needs by reducing that drive which means having ***.

Second: Your probably wondering..."well were more advanced than just primitive tendencies so why the douchbagery from men?" Well this brings me back to Frueds theory. To review, Frued says were are born with an "id"; now this id represents not only ***/agression and accounts for any immoral action or thought that may immerge in the mind but also is seen as that little devil on your shoulder telling you to do the wrong things. According to frued this id is "unconscious" meaning we directly have no association or control over these tendencies meaning these ideas are out of our conscious reach. Furthermore these tendencies are natural neurotic anxieties (conflicts with ourself) that we have to deal with but how do we do this? Frued says these unacceptable urges are repressed with the superego. The "superego" represents all that is good and moral. The superego, the angel on the other shoulder, tells an individual what behavior is appropriate and so on. Essentially what we have is the superego vs the id, and however your mind balances these two combatants is represented through your ego, which is essentially your personality that everyone can observe. If your id is overpowering then you may ignore the superego and just take someones bread without caring but in terms of *** frued gets a little complicated. These *** driven tendencies by the id according to frued are unconscious desires for you to have *** with your mom or dad (boys: Oedipus dilemma; girls; Elektra). What you have is the id trying to find someway to satisfy the need of having *** with your parent. In terms of a male or female being overly *** driven may be the individual satisfying an unconscious need to have *** with someone who represents similarity among their parents. Of course, Frueds theories were very negative and are for the most part examined for historical practical purposes but not taken verbatim as truth. This basically encompasses Frueds take on his pschodynamic theory but of course it fails to be valid. Simply on account that the method of introspection,frueds method of obtaining data, hinges upon an individuals own self report, which can be biased or false in its entirety.

Third: From an evolutionary perspective, men seek females simply for the purpose of reproduction so why are men more assertive than females for ***? Well going back to animal instincts, males are primed to always be ready for *** because well he needs too because whenever the female is ovulating then the male needs to do his instinctual duty. Males may feel the need to have *** more often because, simply doing the act in a sense, for lack of better terms, "marks territory". It sounds tacky but its a possibility we may not see eye to eye but animals have long known this concept. A male is always ready to "go" because once that small chance approaches, "ovulation", it is a hit or miss on claiming assurance that his lineage of genes will survive another generation. Once a female has produced your offspring you pretty much stuck but obviously this is different for humans. So why are females picky? well some reasons are that pregnancy is a health risk. A female has a chance of dying from giving birth. Another reason is that having a child is usually more burden for the female partner, e.g. caring for the child, feeding, etc. Furthermore, females have a limited amount of eggs to produce offspring so by nature something that has a limit and profound implications should be picky to whatever extent possible but this doesn't mean females dont want to have *** as much as men. The fact that females have limited eggs is indeed a reason why female species can sometimes be as agressive as males. During ovulation that is a prime chance to become pregnant, and pass on your genes. Just like men females eventually may want to reproduce since they have a limited time frame they can prolong their lineage but of course since men dont have this problem, absent erectile dysfunction and other sperm problems, men can have *** more often without fear of "losing an egg" thus ends my idea of why men want to have *** more often than females

thank you if you took the time to read this I appreciate you diligence.
 

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Good discussion :y

Personally, I don't take much note of what Freud thinks and says coz he is crazy and sexist.

However, his drive theory is possibly the best at explaining why men want to have *** all the time
 

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Good discussion :y

Personally, I don't take much note of what Freud thinks and says coz he is crazy and sexist.

However, his drive theory is possibly the best at explaining why men want to have *** all the time

yeah ha Frued does have some outlandish ideas but his the drive theory wasn't his idea. Drive goes with yerkes-dodson. I guess I didn't mention that but drive theory can be associated with many topics. The one I am doing a paper on, social facilitation, deals with drive theory..pretty interesting you should check it out.
 

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I had a quiz on this topic yesterday :D. Freud also came up with model of personality, where each stage focuses on sexually arousing part of own body. Oral, ****, phallic, latency, genital - fixation of any of these may have impact on your personality. I like the comparison of id and superego to devil/angel. Pregnancy risks, "limited eggs". Yeah, it makes a lot of sense and you answered to other topic on this forum. Maslow's hierarchy of needs also can support the hedonistic nature of humans. Anyway, thanks for posting it.
 

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A 'brief' psychological perspective? o_0 look at that wall of text bro.
 

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I had a quiz on this topic yesterday :D. Freud also came up with model of personality, where each stage focuses on sexually arousing part of own body. Oral, ****, phallic, latency, genital - fixation of any of these may have impact on your personality. I like the comparison of id and superego to devil/angel. Pregnancy risks, "limited eggs". Yeah, it makes a lot of sense and you answered to other topic on this forum. Maslow's hierarchy of needs also can support the hedonistic nature of humans. Anyway, thanks for posting it.

yeah the idea with frueds stages go back to our ability to deal with those unacceptable ideas. Each of those stages you mentioned assumes that in each stage you will experience conflict and whether you achieve equilibrium by over coming this conflict you progress through the stages but if you cannot handle conflict (what frued called "fixation") then problems will persist in later adulthood. (e.g. if you cannot over come the **** stage then in later years you may be "**** retentive" or known as a neat freak)
thanks for reading my post some people just saw a long paragraph but i put some thought into this post which is what people should do when considering questions.
 
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