Dragonball Super NOT illogical

[Nobel]

OT: Frieza just got this strong for the sake of the plot honestly. DBS is illogical before that anyway.

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you people have ascended into the "super golden retard" without the need of "training".

 

[Dark Sonic]

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you people have ascended into the "super golden retard" without the need of "training".

Then what other excuse is there? His race was never proven to be godly.

 

[Exaar]

Then what other excuse is there? His race was never proven to be godly.

His only logic is, Frieza was already strong without hardly training, Thus he can cover Billions, if not trillions of power levels and reach close to God level power in 4months without even the need of God Ki.

All he really does is bring nothing to the table while calling others stupid and posting Memes, best to ignore him.

 

[Dark Sonic]

His only logic is, Frieza was already strong without hardly training, Thus he can cover Billions, if not trillions of power levels and reach close to God level power in 4months without even the need of God Ki.

All he really does is bring nothing to the table while calling others stupid and posting Memes, best to ignore him.

I believe that is Stant in another username.

Anyway, in my opinion God ki is different from regular ki. Until Akira says so, I don't think the highest ki possible would ever across a god. I get a super pissed off Vegeta did something but I think Beerus was testing out that power.

 

[Nobel]

Then what other excuse is there? His race was never proven to be godly.

smh, are you foreal ?. Vegeta as shown in DBS he "trains" to aquire god ki, but in friezas case his power grows constant rapidly cause of he being a mutant in the frost demon species. Very powerful with still having the standard ki....

and now you are also trying to guess whom i am? You are several quantum ages to early .

 

[Lia]

Frieza being as strong as he is, is not illogical either.

Wrong, it is illogical as f*ck.

Why wouldnt Frieza be able to gain power while dead?

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Than you can add up the 4 months of training while being alive and his evolution to gold form, which could just as well be something similar to Super Saiyan Blue.
Therefore he had the power to challenge Goku in Super Saiyan Blue.

So you think it is logical to get from "weaker than SS1" to "on par with a fully trained SS God" in just 4 ridiculous months? To become as strong as someone who has freaking GOD Ki ? Is it logical that someone who feared an ordinary super saiyan to death, can become as strong as the most powerful beings in the universe? Also much more powerful than the absolutely feared demon "Majin Boo"? That's just insane.
It's already bullshit that someone who has no god Ki can even compete with someone who actually has it.

Goku had to learn all of it the hard way and Frieza gets everything by free in his ass?
I hate this "Frieza is a prodigy" crap so much. Such an argument is just an excuse of an author for lazy writing.

Bringing back frieza was only fanservice, as much as DB Super in general is just fanservice. I don't think that the story will improve very much. I mean, really. A tournament across two universes because of food. The DB-franchise did some reaally bad regresses.

Don't get me wrong. I really like the idea of Beerus and Whis being there, I like them.. and Goku&Vegeta tapping into the heights of gods.
But overall, DB GT was so much better, while being trash most of the time.

 

[123fire]

The thread u mentioned is mine , and For the second time Dragon Ball super is illogical no matter what u say

 

[Nobel]

Wrong, it is illogical as f*ck.

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So you think it is logical to get from "weaker than SS1" to "on par with a fully trained SS God" in just 4 ridiculous months?
It's already bullshit that someone who has no god Ki can even compete with someone who actually has it.

Goku had to learn all of it the hard way and Frieza gets everything by free in his ass?
I hate this "Frieza is a prodigy" crap so much. Such an argument is just an excuse of an author for lazy writing.

Bringing back frieza was only fanservice, as much as DB Super in general is just fanservice. I don't think that the story will improve very much. I mean, really. A tournament across two universes because of food. The DB-franchise did some reaally bad regresses.

Don't get me wrong. I really like the idea of Beerus and Whis being there, I like them.. and Goku&Vegeta tapping into the heights of gods.
But overall, DB GT was so much better, while being trash most of the time.

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just by saying "gt was much better" automatically makes this post fanfic, but of course that bottomless stupidity of yours can never stop be ignorant. You wasted the human in you, what the **** is your freaking problem if champa wanted to swap earths cause of the food? He is the GOD of destruction, if he wish so then thats it. They unlike supreme kais most of the time doesnt need any kind of reason to do whatever they want to do.

and stop your disgraceful salt right there , Frieza has always been a faaaaar superior being to the saiyans, even without training. He survives the destruction/explosion of a planet which goku havent shown yet. I highly doubt that you watch dbz with open eyes since you cannot notice the obvious fact before you. What you refer as "free" is hardwork which frieza accomplished in those months.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Wrong, it is illogical as f*ck.

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So you think it is logical to get from "weaker than SS1" to "on par with a fully trained SS God" in just 4 ridiculous months? To become as strong as someone who has freaking GOD Ki ? Is it logical that someone who feared an ordinary super saiyan to death, can become as strong as the most powerful beings in the universe? Also much more powerful than the absolutely feared demon "Majin Boo"? That's just insane.
It's already bullshit that someone who has no god Ki can even compete with someone who actually has it.

Goku had to learn all of it the hard way and Frieza gets everything by free in his ass?
I hate this "Frieza is a prodigy" crap so much. Such an argument is just an excuse of an author for lazy writing.

Bringing back frieza was only fanservice, as much as DB Super in general is just fanservice. I don't think that the story will improve very much. I mean, really. A tournament across two universes because of food. The DB-franchise did some reaally bad regresses.

Don't get me wrong. I really like the idea of Beerus and Whis being there, I like them.. and Goku&Vegeta tapping into the heights of gods.
But overall, DB GT was so much better, while being trash most of the time.

That frieza pic killed me. lmfao!

 

[Lia]

just by saying "gt was much better" automatically makes this post fanfic, [...]

So you seem to be an senseless DB-Fanboy that has hurt feelings. I don't care about what is canon and what is not, to decide if something is good or bad. And SS4, Baby and the Shadow Dragons, these things made a lot of sense and is more interesting than DB Super with its illogical crap and jackass-humor.
I also don't see what the quoted statement has to do with my arguments about Friezas powerlevel.

[...]what the **** is your freaking problem if champa wanted to swap earths cause of the food? He is the GOD of destruction, if he wish so then thats it. They unlike supreme kais most of the time doesnt need any kind of reason to do whatever they want to do. [...]

So, you want to say that someone has all the rights to act like an idiotish baby, if he/she has the rank of a god? Okay then. That makes you look pretty stupid, sorry.
But I hate this crap. Gods have to be wise and act in the favor of greater good. Not for their selfish, silly needs.

[...]and stop your disgraceful salt right there , Frieza has always been a faaaaar superior being to the saiyans, even without training. He survives the destruction/explosion of a planet which goku havent shown yet. I highly doubt that you watch dbz with open eyes since you cannot notice the obvious fact before you. What you refer as "free" is hardwork which frieza accomplished in those months.

Being superior to saiyans and other races is one thing. Not a big deal.

But Frieza (who was weaker than an ordinary super saiyan) being able to match "godly" powers of people (Vegeta/Goku) who were FAR stronger than a reborn Frieza and had trained with gods (Whis/Beerus).. in only 4 months.. without special training-methods (like training in the afterlife and in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber etc.) is what makes absolutely NO SENSE.

I think you really have NO idea, how big the gap between "super saiyan 1" and "super saiyan blue" is.
It would've been more realistic if Frieza trained for 7-8 years.

@Shaz
Yeah xD
I thought that would be the best answer to the asked question.

 

[Nobel]

So you seem to be an senseless DB-Fanboy that has hurt feelings. I don't care about what is canon and what is not, to decide if something is good or bad. And SS4, Baby and the Shadow Dragons, these things made a lot of sense and is more interesting than DB Super with its illogical crap and jackass-humor.
I also don't see what the quoted statement has to do with my arguments about Friezas powerlevel.


So, you want to say that someone has all the rights to act like an idiotish baby, if he/she has the rank of a god? Okay then. That makes you look pretty stupid, sorry.
But I hate this crap. Gods have to be wise and act in the favor of greater good. Not for their selfish, silly needs.


Being superior to saiyans and other races is one thing. Not a big deal.

But Frieza (who was weaker than an ordinary super saiyan) being able to match "godly" powers of people (Vegeta/Goku) who were FAR stronger than a reborn Frieza and had trained with gods (Whis/Beerus).. in only 4 months.. without special training-methods (like training in the afterlife and in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber etc.) is what makes absolutely NO SENSE.

I think you really have NO idea, how big the gap between "super saiyan 1" and "super saiyan blue" is.
It would've been more realistic if Frieza trained for 7-8 years.

@Shaz
Yeah xD
I thought that would be the best answer to the asked question.

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senseless?, HAH!, thats the last thing i ever want to hear from GT fans like yourself. Dont make me puke now. your senses are ****ed up in all possible ways, what you perceive with those 5 senses is tragic. smh hard work only needs quality time not quantity. And cant you still see the difference between gods of destricton and supreme kais?


a god of destruction lives several cosmic ages longer than a supreme kai, according to the timeline. Under all this time what do you think their primary work is?, its called destruction. If he is "rude" or not doesnt matter, beerus nor champa have zero obligations to "care" for his universe . Thats the supreme kais work, since they create life. And if you havent noticed these two gods of destruction are unique to each other cause of being brothers and they are two similar universes, they are very similar to the egypitan .


And dont think for a moment that you are wiser than Beerus or champa, they have known their respective universe since ancient time.
If you base their intelligence on what they like or not then you have serious problems to overlook. Dont EVER watch dbs nor dragon ball if your standards are set this low.

 

[Lia]

Tachyon, come on.
Where are your arguments? where are your facts?
All you share with me are your insults and a stupid opinion without any reasoning and explainations.

I have no intention to discuss on such a low level. Pls improve.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

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senseless?, HAH!, thats the last thing i ever want to hear from GT fans like yourself. Dont make me puke now. your senses are ****ed up in all possible ways, what you perceive with those 5 senses is tragic. smh hard work only needs quality time not quantity. And cant you still see the difference between gods of destricton and supreme kais?


a god of destruction lives several cosmic ages longer than a supreme kai, according to the timeline. Under all this time what do you think their primary work is?, its called destruction. If he is "rude" or not doesnt matter, beerus nor champa have zero obligations to "care" for his universe . Thats the supreme kais work, since they create life. And if you havent noticed these two gods of destruction are unique to each other cause of being brothers and they are two similar universes, they are very similar to the egypitan .


And dont think for a moment that you are wiser than Beerus or champa, they have known their respective universe since ancient time.
If you base their intelligence on what they like or not then you have serious problems to overlook. Dont EVER watch dbs nor dragon ball if your standards are set this low.

Dragonball Gt > DBZ Super

 

[Marin]

It's completely fine. Sure, many characters were turned to fodder, but this started back in Z, when Gohan stopped training. It's natural that he'd get weaker in a few years of doing nothing but study.

And besides, DB isn't to be taken too seriously. It's logic isn't on level of Naruto or other semi-serious anime. It's got more of a childish feeling, thus the plot isn't executed that greately. The targeted audience won't care... well in Japan atleast.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

It's completely fine. Sure, many characters were turned to fodder, but this started back in Z, when Gohan stopped training. It's natural that he'd get weaker in a few years of doing nothing but study.

And besides, DB isn't to be taken too seriously. It's logic isn't on level of Naruto or other semi-serious anime. It's got more of a childish feeling, thus the plot isn't executed that greately. The targeted audience won't care... well in Japan atleast.

Its targeted to 1-10 age group right?

 

[Marin]

Its targeted to 1-10 age group right?

T-

Atleast that's what I think.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

T-

Atleast that's what I think.

If so than I agree. I lose a lot of brain cells watching that series. Since logic is not its best art. I guess if you are around 1-10 you will enjoy it. Which is not a problem since majority of the base members are that age.

 

[TimothyTheTomato]

I believe that is Stant in another username.

Anyway, in my opinion God ki is different from regular ki. Until Akira says so, I don't think the highest ki possible would ever across a god. I get a super pissed off Vegeta did something but I think Beerus was testing out that power.

Well according to a recent comment by vegeta . god ki is really dense.
And freezas gains arent really illogical. Goku went from 9000 to three million to 150 million in less than a month
Gohan went from less than five to over 1000 in a rage boost
I could name a bunch of ridiculous gaps.
Freeza had the highest untrained pl in the series. Makes sense for him to improve vastly when he trains and focuses on ki control.

 

[TimothyTheTomato]

Dragonball Gt > DBZ Super

Shitface do you watch super
Tell me how
Parapara brothers
Kid gokus penis
Black star dragon ball saga
Ss4 being cut by glass
Vegetas haircut
Etc
Is better than a series with
Universal scale battle in first saga
Atleast 4 instances of goku and vegeta fighting each other
Main cast that isn't near retirement
Jaco!
Etc

 

[TimothyTheTomato]

And the american shonen fandom proves to be a bigger peice of shit than yesterday
Congratulations