Dragonball Super NOT illogical

Natsu Shazneel

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Shitface do you watch super
Tell me how
Parapara brothers
Kid gokus penis
Black star dragon ball saga
Ss4 being cut by glass
Vegetas haircut
Etc
Is better than a series with
Universal scale battle in first saga
Atleast 4 instances of goku and vegeta fighting each other
Main cast that isn't near retirement
Jaco!
Etc

I saw the movies. The plot was a joke. GT did tons better.
 

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I saw the movies. The plot was a joke. GT did tons better.
Movies aint super sit tf down.gt had one good saga.
Black star dragon ball saga was absolutely the biggest peice of shit next to db evolution
Baby made little sense and none of that tuffle bullshit lined up correctly. Baby-im mad at saiyans for trolling my race so imma troll innocent earthlings and people who aint have nothing to do with our conflict in a saiyan body!
Super 17- yea lets just make uub irrelevant again and weaker than ss goku again derp while keeping androids relevant. And yea 17 +17>>>>>>>17+18+cell and a huge zenkai. And hellfighter 17 made no sense. Again a short arc that was a peice of shit.
Now we finally get to thr good arx
Shadow dragons. Where the final battle is so underwhelming and they reuse the same attack animation clips for omega shenron atleast five times.and the big bang kamehameha looks like a blue beer funnel.
Andb than goku leaves/dies whatever for no reason and somehow his great great grandson can go ss while being weaker than bodb goku. Stupid plot? So was goku being a kid wasnt dumb? Baby wasnt dumb? Super 17 wasnt dumb? Shadow dragon arc didnt have shittu fights?
Super has feats and battle choreography that shits on gt. A god hierarchy connecting to existing material (haikashin and kaoishin) is better than tuffle bullshit and kamikaze dragon balls. Toryamas ideas and execution>>>>>>>>>>>solely toei products
 

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Movies aint super sit tf down.gt had one good saga.
Black star dragon ball saga was absolutely the biggest peice of shit next to db evolution
Baby made little sense and none of that tuffle bullshit lined up correctly. Baby-im mad at saiyans for trolling my race so imma troll innocent earthlings and people who aint have nothing to do with our conflict in a saiyan body!
Super 17- yea lets just make uub irrelevant again and weaker than ss goku again derp while keeping androids relevant. And yea 17 +17>>>>>>>17+18+cell and a huge zenkai. And hellfighter 17 made no sense. Again a short arc that was a peice of shit.
Now we finally get to thr good arx
Shadow dragons. Where the final battle is so underwhelming and they reuse the same attack animation clips for omega shenron atleast five times.and the big bang kamehameha looks like a blue beer funnel.
Andb than goku leaves/dies whatever for no reason and somehow his great great grandson can go ss while being weaker than bodb goku. Stupid plot? So was goku being a kid wasnt dumb? Baby wasnt dumb? Super 17 wasnt dumb? Shadow dragon arc didnt have shittu fights?
Super has feats and battle choreography that shits on gt. A god hierarchy connecting to existing material (haikashin and kaoishin) is better than tuffle bullshit and kamikaze dragon balls. Toryamas ideas and execution>>>>>>>>>>>solely toei products
I could not understand this post. Too many grammar mistakes.
 

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Even if Frieza had weakened a little bit after he was revived, than it still isnt weird how he got as strong as he did in DB super/Revival of F after training for several months.

When they fought him on namek, noone could handle him. Goku in base couldnt either.
Even as a super saiyan, he lost to a 100% full power frieza at first.

Frieza was this mighty, without training or hardly ever training.

Later after everyone got revived and summoned to earth (except Goku and Frieza), Goku won.

With frieza training for several months, it isnt really all that weird for him to reach to the power he did in db super/revival of F.

In db super/Revival of F, frieza in his final form (before golden), wasnt a match against Goku in his new base beyond god form.
Unlike on namek, where Goku needed super saiyan to win. That is a big change already and shows that Frieza in final form (before Golden) couldnt catch up to Goku in the relative short amount of time he had to train.

Frieza needed his gold form to be able to have a chance vs Goku SSJ blue.

We dont know how Frieza trained. We know very little about his race.
Frieza was already one of the strongest fighters in the uiverse in the frieza saga, without training or hardly ever training. He is a special case tbh. Apparently he has trouble finding reason to train. That is one of his weaknesses.

There are special rooms like the room of spirit in time.
Saiyans when near death and after battles, get huge power boosts.
Look at Goku when it happened multiple times in between his fight on earth vs vegeta, up until him becoming super saiyan vs Frieza. That is also a huge power increase from his earth fight in several ten thousands, to super saiyan lvl in the milions.

We dont know what special power increases and rooms the mutants among Frieza's race have.
We know that Frieza is special, having been as strong as he was in DBZ, while not training or hardly ever.

So it isnt weird for Frieza, among special cases, to have the big increase in power in DB super/revival of F.
As said, without his golden form he couldnt handle Goku without SSJ blue. Unlike on namek, where Goku needed to transform to stand a chance vs Frieza.

Frieza managing to find a new golden transformation, was what gave him a chance vs Goku SSJ blue.
In a sense, similar to how Goku needed to transform to SSJ to handle frieza final form in the past.
 
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