just remembered that Akainu is 55 so it is very possible that he is older than Dragon, what if we reverse the roles: Akainu the Admiral and Dragon the VA and Dragon, as Akainu's pupil, defected to form the revs ... AFTER he became an Admiral himself, or maybe just before he became one
(I'm not commenting on how likely anything posted here is but I do like the theory a lot)
Newgate was 72 so let's assume Garp was about 72 pre TS, Luffy was 17, if we assume Garp and Dragon had a son at about the same age Dragon's age would be mid way between 72 and 17, which is 44 (assuming Garp and Dragon both had kids at 27)
so post TS Dragon should be about 46, which is 9 years younger than Akainu
Garp is 73 PTS and 71 Pre-Ts
Akainu is 54 PTS and 52 Pre-ts and 32 during the Ohara incident
Garp was 49 when Roger was executed and 54 when Luffy was born. Dragon was a grown man when Roger was executed so he should've atleast been like 23-27 when that happened so yeah, 46 years old is pretty accurate. Seeing how strong Luffy is at 19 yrs, its obvious to think that Dragon was admiral level in his 20s.
Garp is 73 PTS and 71 Pre-Ts
Akainu is 54 PTS and 52 Pre-ts and 32 during the Ohara incident
Garp was 49 when Roger was executed and 54 when Luffy was born. Dragon was a grown man when Roger was executed so he should've atleast been like 23-27 when that happened so yeah, 46 years old is pretty accurate. Seeing how strong Luffy is at 19 yrs, its obvious to think that Dragon was admiral level in his 20s.
pre TS BB fled from Akainu, he might be dangerous but he's not yet the most dangerous to the WG and imo he will never be (to the WG), Luffy and Dragon will be teh most dangerous opponents to teh WG, BB might even join them (the WG) at some point
Not really. Dragon is far more dangerous to them because he has an entire organization directly attempting to overthrow the world government. Teach is just dicking around.
I think its obvious by now that Akainu as some sort of grudge or personal vendetta against Moneky D. Dragon.
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If anyone thinks thats just Akainu wanting to kill off a potential dangerous criminal, then look at this
Even though Ace, the son of the pirate king, was right in front of him n' ripe for the picking, Akainu STILL tried to kill Luffy first. To Akainu, killing the son The Most Dangerous Criminal today was more important than killing the stronger son of the Most Dangerous Criminal who ever lived.
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So the question becomes, "How does Akainu know Dragon so well?" Well, its not that hard to stomach when you realize that Monkey D. Dragon was a former Marine HQ Admiral.
Its a super popular and well known theory. For those who have doubts, look at this color spread.
Since I couldn't enhance the picture due to CPU issues, I'll have to tell you where Dragon is for those who don't know. Dragon is the second guy to Kizaru's left(to your right) next to a guy with a large chin and black hair(ignore that big chin shaved guy with the Marine tattoo). Kizaru is on the right side of the color spread.
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When now know(or already knew) that Dragon was a former Admiral. I think that there is something special about the subordinates of an Admiral. Look at these two scans and tell me what they have in common.
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Noticed it? Fujitora and Garp have 2 VAs under them. I believe its a common protocol for there to be 2 VAs serving under 1 Admiral until further notice. As for Garp, he's a special VA. Garp is a VA who is treated like an Admiral by the government due to his strength and him turning down Admiral promos on a regular bases. I believe Aokiji and Saul were Garp's 2 Vice Admirals. VA Tsuru was there, but judging from their dialogue, she isn't stationed with/under Garp.
Now then, I'm pretty sure you all know where I'm going with this. Yes.One of Former Admiral Dragon's 2 VAs was none other than:
Akainu Sakazuki
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Of course you guys are probably wondering, "What about Dragon's other VA?" The other one was Bartholomew Kuma. Currently known as PX-O.
Remember where you found Dragon in the color spread? The big chin guy next to him is Kuma. That large chin and hair style looks eerily similar don't you think?
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Now, we all that Dragon and Akainu's view on justice are complete opposites. Some people believe Akainu and Aokiji's view on justice are completely opposites but I think not. Hell, Aokiji's moral justice isn't even in 2nd place. Aokiji is willing to do inhuman things if there is no other way around it. People like Dragon and Jaguar D.Saul absolutely refuse to stoop to such levels of inhumanity.
Scan 1: As you can see, Saul expressed EXTREME levels of Moral Justice by arguing with his CO and defecting from the Marines.
Scan 2-3: Aokiji gives off a "absolute justice with morals" vibe when he exchanges words with to Saul. He knows the buster call is inhumane but its a direct order from government and he thinks the Oharas should die becuase they are a threat to the future.
Scan 3-4: And of course, even 22 years ago, Akainu showcases his EXTREME levels of Absolute Justice by killing off innocent civilians.
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For Dragon to go against the World Government and start a revolution, his moral justice must reach EXTREME levels. The Ohara destruction is what caused Dragon to defect from the marines along with Kuma. Dragon gave Aokiji a chance to go with him, but he refused(he thought a revolution was too extreme).
Back to Admiral Dragon and VA Sakazuki. With such polar opposite senses of justice, theres bound to be tension. Akainu is someone who kill anyone who helps pirates even when they had no choice, Akainu is someone who will kill his own subordinates when they show weakness, Akainu is a government dog who does what he's told. Dragon is someone who will let people go because he understands them, Dragon is someone who adores his subordinates and gives people numerous chances, Dragon is someone who constantly questions the government. For VA Sakazuki, it was extemely aggravating serving under someone like Dragon.
Even with Dragon as his CO. Akainu never held Dragon in high esteem. Akainu thought Dragon was an incapable leader, he thought Dragon was defying the WG by letting "criminals" go, he though Dragon was weak-willed and unable to make tough decision and most of all, Akainu probably never trusted Dragon. Akainu was pretty much disgusted with Dragon and constantly butted heads with him, and when Dragon defected, Akainu's digust hit a boiling point. Akainu was disgusted, annoyed, enraged and ashamed that a "blind" traitor like Dragon was his CO and truly knows Dragon is the biggest threat to the government(Akainu knows Dragon's power firsthand). We all know what Akainu thinks of traitors. The comment "The traitor must be punished!!" comes to mind. Akainu believes that no one is capable of leading the marines except him because Monkey D. Dragon is their biggest threat. If anyone gonna kill Dragon, Akainu will make sure it'll be him.
Sexy thread but I think u made this too complicated I simply think Dragon shitstomped Akainu in the past
Garp>DCJ
Dragon>Akainu
Both DCJ and Akainu despise/d Luffy and want revenge
In the war when Shanks arrived Akainu didn't say holy shit why is the legendary red hair in front of me. His first words where "You bastard you let the son of Dragon escape"..he never ever called Luffy by his name once and he said he doesn't care you escapes MF...as long as he kills Luffy and Ace
Combine that with Dragons sense of justice directly conflicting with Akainu and this is the reason Akainu is butthurt
Sense of Justice
Akainu-Absolute Justice ..and basically being a government dog
Dragon-Cleansing Justice...cleaning away all impurities of the world..with the power of winds and storms
I no you think I'm overrating Dragon but there should be no reason why he wants to kill a rookie so bad. He left Ace on the floor to kill the son of Dragon...Akainu is severly butthurt from what Dragon did to him in the past
cool. i just dont see akainu being an underling of dragon. considering he and the other admirals are older than dragon. kizaru for example hes old as fuk now.
im pretty sure hes the fourth admiral. adding another logia element to the mix. wind
This theory could be true, till the part where you said Aokiji was under Dragon's command.
Aokiji never showed any strange reaction when standing against Luffy, he must have already known that Luffy was Dragon's son. He wouldn't be shocked that Luffy could use Conquerer's Haki, etcetera.
No one knows about Dragon and his back ground until MF arc where as all of admirals are super famous. So no, there is no way in living hell for Dragon to be an admiral.
No one knows about Dragon and his back ground until MF arc where as all of admirals are super famous. So no, there is no way in living hell for Dragon to be an admiral.
Common sense bro, not even the people that works directly under him know about his whereabouts. Do u really think one can be an admiral and still no one knows about his back ground? I don't think so,especially not when his father is one of most famous dudes in history and The Hero of Marines. Being an admiral alone would make you one of the most famous dudes in the world.hmm
Don chinjao, The man who cares the most about Garp and his family didn't knew that Dragon is Garps son. This point alone is more than enough to say that this theory is not possible.
Common sense bro, not even the people that works directly under him know about his whereabouts. Do u really think one can be an admiral and still no one knows about his back ground? I don't think so,especially not when his father is one of most famous dudes in history and The Hero of Marines. Being an admiral alone would make you one of the most famous dudes in the world.hmm
Don chinjao, The man who cares the most about Garp and his family didn't knew that Dragon is Garps son. This point alone is more than enough to say that this theory is not possible.
You don't have to reveal your back ground story to be a pirate But you must be super famous to be an admiral. Every admiral is well known all around the world. At least every marine should know about him but no one besides top dongs of MF knows about his identity.
'Monkey D Dragon the former admiral of marines.'
Look at the statement, his name alone is more than enough to say that he has a connection with Garp yet even someone like Don chinjao knew about their connection. None of fodder marines knew about his full name unless Garp mentioned it at W7. Shakky easily realized that Luffy has some connection with Garp after hearing his name.
Dragon can't be an admiral no matter how badly you look at it.
