Yeah. Why?My vote didn't matter because tree was only one wagon which was already about maj. Did you read my posts regarding the wagon formations?
Yeah. Why?My vote didn't matter because tree was only one wagon which was already about maj. Did you read my posts regarding the wagon formations?
There's been quite some fingers pointed at you previously, and from what I've seen you've handled yourself well in different cases. This time your method was sarcasm and recalling our previous mistakes. If someone had to put themselves on mafia's shoes and be in your case they would most definietly express this in the same words.Yeah, I am sorry for not letting scum roll all over us like some town players did. I'll try less hard next game.
I'm sorry, but if "not wanting to lose" is a scumtell here I am no longer surprised by how Odd and Ryu tried to play.
I had a slight lean for TheLukondo exactly like Ansa had, until Misa showed up.Reading Time!
1. @sadslick - just joined, all i can say is welcome to the game, I like you reads so far, and I must ask you, who do you sus so far, your list
Lonely was first on the book, when it came down to FoS and Ryu's first ever threat signifying his confidence for it.
And now to feel satisfied with my results for just a first game, I'm going to be askinh for @everyone's opinion on this.If you are town and THIS is the effort you are willing to put into this game, then there is no need to wonder why scum just walzes all over it.
You also forgot that the scum team has four members in all likelihood. You are one player shirt in your barebone, no explanation given at all, scum list.
Is this seriously the best effort that you can come up with? That's even less commitment than what Lukundo showed.
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Stupid then*Hey, it might just be me being stupid theb? I'll trust my stupidity.
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This vote seems v pure.I have said I will do it so I am doing it cause I always keep my word. My vote doesn't matter now anyway since majority is reached.
Ryu although a suspect was not the one i would have voted for today.
Vote @Ryu Kishi
I am going to say this one last time. This lynch is INSANELY suspicious even if Ryu turns out to be mafia. There are people pushing for this lynch, others that jumped in, people not wanting to speak their minds, few that went completely silent after voting.
I cannot be the only one thinking this given that I am the most inexperienced player here.
The fact that I am the ONLY one still questioning things makes me think that I am literally surrounded by wolves.
@Michelle
Town-
Konno
All_Red, Waindo
LaMisa
From reading the thread I gather that the kill on Evan was because of the strength of his play previously. Therefore it would have to come from those that played with him prior.
I agree that The Lukundo is detached from the game. With no experience with him I have no idea if this is alignment indicative.
We need to be united in our battle with the evil forces.
Vote @Ryu Kishi
I'll to be around during ending hours of this Phase if it's not going to be night time in my country
Vote:Ryu Kishi
Got to admit that your 70% post are mostly fluffed with a forced contribution
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Too much to read and write to be honest and I'm also playing three games currently in another forum which gave me less time to read and contribute... Sorry for that
But for Ryu I think he's a good lynch candidate, I don't like his play in this game and he's not even giving his reason for his doubts in players just stating them as if they're a fact
Both Madie and LanMisa voted Ryu because of this reason.You already dead you just don't know it yet.
I have to say I am not a big fan of the call to emotion that fills alot of your posts. Can we leave that out and just focus on the game. I know you are frustrated, we(town) all are. Because right now we are being handed our collective tails. I am trying to ascertain if the mafia is really this intelligent or are we as the town just falling all over ourselves. I believe it is a combination of the two. I believe the players that are pulling the strings are very knowledgeable players and play the game with skill. That coupled with the town aligned players being a mix of newness and unfamiliarity has kept it from becoming unified.I have no words for this game any more. If you are willing to push your most active town player by far, the only one who actively gives a shit and tried to remind town why our situation was, and still is, desperate.... then by no means do. I'll even vote for myself to get this game over with.
I've seen some of the most antitown behaviours town has displayed in any game I've ever played with. I've seen rulebreaking that wouldhave resulted in insta modkills everywhere else, but the person who got closest to that was me. I'm nearly emotionally done with the game. And I'm this close to just voting myself and laugh in the face of this town who clearly doesn't deserve all the effort I put in so far.
Sorry for the rant. But this is very therapeutic for me.
A guest who wanted to take the life of another guest was unable to make any move.
Vlad was also well prepared to counterattack the Evil's actions, putting garlic at the entrance of the Castle and closing well all the windows... The Evil was powerless against the little vegetable enemy and didn't take the life he came for, this time a young beautiful maid...
I understand what you are saying I believe. The trust is there.Let's take care of the biggest threat, after such a lousy start for town, we desperately need an equalizer.
After placing my initial doubts in the previous day phase, after his 'trytoohard to be town' demeanor and after placing my night action, and now having a very clear idea of a failed action that was placed on me... cough... cough....which, due to the game rules I can't mention ofcourse, from these 2 paragraphs of the WU I now have a clear hint on who is The Evil.
Vote @LanMisa
@Michelle
I would gladly reveal more, but as I said, we're limited by this game's rules and I can't be more explicit about this, so I'm going to have to ask you guys to place your trust in me.
Trust for trust it is then.Let's take care of the biggest threat, after such a lousy start for town, we desperately need an equalizer.
After placing my initial doubts in the previous day phase, after his 'trytoohard to be town' demeanor and after placing my night action, and now having a very clear idea of a failed action that was placed on me... cough... cough....which, due to the game rules I can't mention ofcourse, from these 2 paragraphs of the WU I now have a clear hint on who is The Evil.
Vote @LanMisa
@Michelle
I would gladly reveal more, but as I said, we're limited by this game's rules and I can't be more explicit about this, so I'm going to have to ask you guys to place your trust in me.
Entitling this as a last attempt, surely keeping the same face seems like a good strat, I'm sorry but it is time we make proper decisions.I have no words for this game any more. If you are willing to push your most active town player by far, the only one who actively gives a shit and tried to remind town why our situation was, and still is, desperate.... then by no means do. I'll even vote for myself to get this game over with.
I've seen some of the most antitown behaviours town has displayed in any game I've ever played with. I've seen rulebreaking that wouldhave resulted in insta modkills everywhere else, but the person who got closest to that was me. I'm nearly emotionally done with the game. And I'm this close to just voting myself and laugh in the face of this town who clearly doesn't deserve all the effort I put in so far.
Sorry for the rant. But this is very therapeutic for me.
Votes | Target | Voters |
3 | LanMisa | Waindo Eliphas Sadslick |
1 | Duk3star | Rei |
9 | non voting | The Cow MadieV Mr.Lonely Oreki_Houtarou LanMisa All_Red Duk3star Konno TheLukundo |
I find it very interesting how you don't mention yourself as strong town hereI have to say I am not a big fan of the call to emotion that fills alot of your posts. Can we leave that out and just focus on the game. I know you are frustrated, we(town) all are. Because right now we are being handed our collective tails. I am trying to ascertain if the mafia is really this intelligent or are we as the town just falling all over ourselves. I believe it is a combination of the two. I believe the players that are pulling the strings are very knowledgeable players and play the game with skill. That coupled with the town aligned players being a mix of newness and unfamiliarity has kept it from becoming unified.
Now to the pressing matters, Ryu made himself a suspect due to his play. The wagon grew as the day went on. It isnt as if it happened in mere moments. He was present, if he had claimed at the time he realized this was the direction the day was going, the wagon would have dissipated. But no he made a post in a mocking fashion. I am new to this game but I have read enough articles on strategy to know that this was a horrible play by a very valuable town role. I don't blame anyone for his lynch but him. He saw were it was headed and it doesn't matter how it got there, he had the opportunity to claim and stop it from happening. And he chose not to.
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Living players:
1. @sadslick
2. @The Cow
4. @MadieV
5. @Mr.Lonely
6. @Oreki_Houtarou
8. @LanMisa
9. @All_Red
11. @Duk3star
12. @Eliphas
13. @Rei
16. @Waindo
17. @Konno
18. @TheLukundo
Taking the players I have strong town reads on out of this list
17. @Konno
9. @All_Red
16. @Waindo
And despite being wrong on the Ryu read(as was myself and alot of other players) I still find 8. @LanMisa a town lean.
That leaves me with this. There are 4-5 non town players in this group:
1. @sadslick
2. @The Cow
4. @MadieV
5. @Mr.Lonely
6. @Oreki_Houtarou
11. @Duk3star
13. @Rei
18. @TheLukundo
So 50/50 chance on finding wolf in this group.
What makes you think Waindo is town? Also what do you have to say about your sudden vote yesturday?I have to say I am not a big fan of the call to emotion that fills alot of your posts. Can we leave that out and just focus on the game. I know you are frustrated, we(town) all are. Because right now we are being handed our collective tails. I am trying to ascertain if the mafia is really this intelligent or are we as the town just falling all over ourselves. I believe it is a combination of the two. I believe the players that are pulling the strings are very knowledgeable players and play the game with skill. That coupled with the town aligned players being a mix of newness and unfamiliarity has kept it from becoming unified.
Now to the pressing matters, Ryu made himself a suspect due to his play. The wagon grew as the day went on. It isnt as if it happened in mere moments. He was present, if he had claimed at the time he realized this was the direction the day was going, the wagon would have dissipated. But no he made a post in a mocking fashion. I am new to this game but I have read enough articles on strategy to know that this was a horrible play by a very valuable town role. I don't blame anyone for his lynch but him. He saw were it was headed and it doesn't matter how it got there, he had the opportunity to claim and stop it from happening. And he chose not to.
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Living players:
1. @sadslick
2. @The Cow
4. @MadieV
5. @Mr.Lonely
6. @Oreki_Houtarou
8. @LanMisa
9. @All_Red
11. @Duk3star
12. @Eliphas
13. @Rei
16. @Waindo
17. @Konno
18. @TheLukundo
Taking the players I have strong town reads on out of this list
17. @Konno
9. @All_Red
16. @Waindo
And despite being wrong on the Ryu read(as was myself and alot of other players) I still find 8. @LanMisa a town lean.
That leaves me with this. There are 4-5 non town players in this group:
1. @sadslick
2. @The Cow
4. @MadieV
5. @Mr.Lonely
6. @Oreki_Houtarou
11. @Duk3star
13. @Rei
18. @TheLukundo
So 50/50 chance on finding wolf in this group.
I don't agree with your sus on Misa. She if anyone is least sus. Tell me what a wolf would gain from rallying up the town, to lynch an innocent? That's way too much attention for any wolf. If anything a wolf would simply bandwagon on a rally like some people did. Leading it seems to obvious. I could be wrong but prove it.There's been quite some fingers pointed at you previously, and from what I've seen you've handled yourself well in different cases. This time your method was sarcasm and recalling our previous mistakes. If someone had to put themselves on mafia's shoes and be in your case they would most definietly express this in the same words.
Hey, it might just be me being stupid theb? I'll trust my stupidity.
I had a slight lean for TheLukondo exactly like Ansa had, until Misa showed up.
Do you ever feel like you can tell when someone is desperately trying a bit too hard, we've got to see through this or we most likely will all end up dead.
Furthermore, two town deaths both were a surprise, regardless of efforts I'd give it a shot by trusting it.
Lonely was first on the book, when it came down to FoS and Ryu's first ever threat signifying his confidence for it.
Oh, and of course surprise-surprise! There's Misa again, having an aggressive reaction to Ryu's claims, don't you think that she might benefit being free to aggress on someone that gave no effort on his claim against her and the other townies let it slip because of this? By the hour I'm getting more reason to go against you.
For the record, here is the reply, do not be decieved.
And now to feel satisfied with my results for just a first game, I'm going to be askinh for @everyone's opinion on this.
Especially to whoever has TR fo Misa, while I do say I'm confident in my claims there's a slight chance I might be mistaken so do feel free to let me in on what you think whether it be pro or against.
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Stupid then*
More than one, look at who voted and tell me only one of them are wolfI might be able to help today!! Ima try and go through the votes to see reasons and sheeps.
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This vote seems v pure.
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Both Madie and LanMisa voted Ryu because of this reason.
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We started with 18 players meaning we have 4/5 bad. Meaning at least 1 has to be on that wagon (My PoV)
Wait, whats you reason for this vote?Let's take care of the biggest threat, after such a lousy start for town, we desperately need an equalizer.
After placing my initial doubts in the previous day phase, after his 'trytoohard to be town' demeanor and after placing my night action, and now having a very clear idea of a failed action that was placed on me... cough... cough....which, due to the game rules I can't mention ofcourse, from these 2 paragraphs of the WU I now have a clear hint on who is The Evil.
Vote @LanMisa
@Michelle
I would gladly reveal more, but as I said, we're limited by this game's rules and I can't be more explicit about this, so I'm going to have to ask you guys to place your trust in me.
I think you're on point with these deductions. I agree it looks like there was a general protection used last night. I also pressure said ability was a 1-shot. The only other possibility is that mafia has a stock of superkills that would counter the continuous use of the protection but the first deduction sounds more reasonable for this setup.From this it seems like Vlad (still a townie I presume) has an ability to protect an entire roster (all players). This appears to be an extremely op ability and it's probably a one shot ability imo.
Someone got roleblocked.
Someone attacked a young beautiful maid (Vlad's lover maybe? Katherina?). The trigger/action placed by Vlad protected her.
The person who is playing as Vlad is invested. The scum investigator now knows who it is.
Someone was either protected, jailed or healed before Vlad placed his AOE protection.
It was aslo girls' talk night, an interesting conversation took place in a room since early evening untill the end of the night, where both ladies felt the possitive energy of the powerful protection shield that the Ruler put over the Castle.
Well, probably because claiming is directly against the rules. It is stated in the opening post of the game.Why didn't he claim before he was lynched? Even I know that is bad play.
This push caught my eye. I don't remember you feeling this strongly about the cow.I assure you that The Cow is todays lynch, it has to be. He seems off and purposefully didn't vote Odd. That suggests he knew that Odd was town because The Cow is not. If mafia is the werewolves, why would you use garlic to scare them off? So clearly there is a third party which i believe is the serial killer.
Your list has more than half the players. Who is the player you suspect the most and why?I have to say I am not a big fan of the call to emotion that fills alot of your posts. Can we leave that out and just focus on the game. I know you are frustrated, we(town) all are. Because right now we are being handed our collective tails. I am trying to ascertain if the mafia is really this intelligent or are we as the town just falling all over ourselves. I believe it is a combination of the two. I believe the players that are pulling the strings are very knowledgeable players and play the game with skill. That coupled with the town aligned players being a mix of newness and unfamiliarity has kept it from becoming unified.
Now to the pressing matters, Ryu made himself a suspect due to his play. The wagon grew as the day went on. It isnt as if it happened in mere moments. He was present, if he had claimed at the time he realized this was the direction the day was going, the wagon would have dissipated. But no he made a post in a mocking fashion. I am new to this game but I have read enough articles on strategy to know that this was a horrible play by a very valuable town role. I don't blame anyone for his lynch but him. He saw were it was headed and it doesn't matter how it got there, he had the opportunity to claim and stop it from happening. And he chose not to.
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Living players:
1. @sadslick
2. @The Cow
4. @MadieV
5. @Mr.Lonely
6. @Oreki_Houtarou
8. @LanMisa
9. @All_Red
11. @Duk3star
12. @Eliphas
13. @Rei
16. @Waindo
17. @Konno
18. @TheLukundo
Taking the players I have strong town reads on out of this list
17. @Konno
9. @All_Red
16. @Waindo
And despite being wrong on the Ryu read(as was myself and alot of other players) I still find 8. @LanMisa a town lean.
That leaves me with this. There are 4-5 non town players in this group:
1. @sadslick
2. @The Cow
4. @MadieV
5. @Mr.Lonely
6. @Oreki_Houtarou
11. @Duk3star
13. @Rei
18. @TheLukundo
So 50/50 chance on finding wolf in this group.
I explained myself while not leaving the 'box' that I am not allowed to leave due to the rules, yet you ask me to elaborate myself more further knowing that I will get modkilled if I mention the exact reason.What makes you think Waindo is town? Also what do you have to say about your sudden vote yesturday?
I don't agree with your sus on Misa. She if anyone is least sus. Tell me what a wolf would gain from rallying up the town, to lynch an innocent? That's way too much attention for any wolf. If anything a wolf would simply bandwagon on a rally like some people did. Leading it seems to obvious. I could be wrong but prove it.
More than one, look at who voted and tell me only one of them are wolf
Wait, whats you reason for this vote?
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Vote @Eliphas
@Michelle
Everyone I want you to look at the wagon on Misa. Look at who is voting it now, and who voted for Ryu. The comparison is almost too obvious.
Both him and Odd played awfully bad while having strong town roles. I agree that examining anything around Ryu's wagon is pointless at this time.As for Ryu's lynch, I'm not sure how much we can examine it. He didn't even try to defend himself, let alone have a presence in the game that would make his push look like it was wolf pushed.
Just to get this straight (and without trying to inquire too much), you have role related information, confirmed by your writeup deduction, that puts LanMisa in a bad light?Let's take care of the biggest threat, after such a lousy start for town, we desperately need an equalizer.
After placing my initial doubts in the previous day phase, after his 'trytoohard to be town' demeanor and after placing my night action, and now having a very clear idea of a failed action that was placed on me... cough... cough....which, due to the game rules I can't mention ofcourse, from these 2 paragraphs of the WU I now have a clear hint on who is The Evil.
Vote @LanMisa
@Michelle
I would gladly reveal more, but as I said, we're limited by this game's rules and I can't be more explicit about this, so I'm going to have to ask you guys to place your trust in me.
Yes ma'am.Just to get this straight (and without trying to inquire too much), you have role related information, confirmed by your writeup deduction, that puts LanMisa in a bad light?
This makes absolutely no sense. I know what my role PM says. Unfortunately by rule I can't relay that. I don't have the benefit of a host declaring may innocence.
I believe Waindo is town for the same reason I believe you are.What makes you think Waindo is town? Also what do you have to say about your sudden vote yesturday?
I don't agree with your sus on Misa. She if anyone is least sus. Tell me what a wolf would gain from rallying up the town, to lynch an innocent? That's way too much attention for any wolf. If anything a wolf would simply bandwagon on a rally like some people did. Leading it seems to obvious. I could be wrong but prove it.
More than one, look at who voted and tell me only one of them are wolf
Wait, whats you reason for this vote?
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Vote @Eliphas
@Michelle
Everyone I want you to look at the wagon on Misa. Look at who is voting it now, and who voted for Ryu. The comparison is almost too obvious.
Now under new revelations LanMisa. There is a MU element to the wolves.I think you're on point with these deductions. I agree it looks like there was a general protection used last night. I also pressure said ability was a 1-shot. The only other possibility is that mafia has a stock of superkills that would counter the continuous use of the protection but the first deduction sounds more reasonable for this setup.
It's also important to note that, according to the writeup, we have a couple of masons in town.
Well, probably because claiming is directly against the rules. It is stated in the opening post of the game.
This push caught my eye. I don't remember you feeling this strongly about the cow.
Your list has more than half the players. Who is the player you suspect the most and why?