Double Standards, Sakura and Sasuke.

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Blame Kishi for making her thirsty for a guy who didn't see her like she seen him... Sasuke & the pink haired girl really didn't share too many or should i say any real alone time where they actually said things of interest to one another... It's forced as hell to make them fit & to be honest with you, she don't fit him at all like Karin did/does...
 

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That's like me killing any police I see because of one bad one killing somebody else, he had no excuse to attack the village which mainly knew none of what went on between the uchiha and danzo and when he found out Itachi's wishes, he still decided to attack innocents who had nothing to do with his situation. Sasuke was just a psychopath.

Sasuke was not a psychopath. But he did have antisocial tendencies. He's like how Dexter was after his mother was chopped up in front of him.

On another note, you wouldn't be angry if you found out that the people behind the government discriminated, suppressed, and persecuted your entire family, who if not for them, that said government or place would not exist. Then they use your clan as lapdogs, spread nasty rumors about them, and give them a position in order to inspire hatred in others for them?

Then they hire someone you care about to kill them, because they were angry with their current situation (Everyone got a slice of the pie while the Uchiha got the crumbs, then you kill that person and find out that the same government that did those things were behind the massacre.

You'll have to be pretty stupid if you don't understand the pain, heartache, and anger that Sasuke felt, and say that you wouldn't be angry.
 
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Sakura forgave Sasuke for his mistakes.

Sakura just isn't a likeable character... her and Karin both wanted Sasuke, Karin wanted him even after he tried to kill because she wasn't good enough

Karin got smart though and gave up on Sasuke

Maybe Sakura likes BDSM?

I had dream that my mother was proud of me because I got myself an abusive boyfriend (I was single at the time, I don't, my boyfriend is actually a really nice guy) she was like, "Honey, I'm so proud! I always knew you would find love, that he would be abusive. He would love you but still be abusive." She was smiling and the worst part was my response to her, "Mom you are so right! I always knew I'd have an abusive boyfriend." And I was smiling... the dream made no sense
 

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So being ''likeable'' instantly excuses him for being a petty woman beater?



So if a persistent girl wanted to start a relationship you would choke her and attempt murder?
I see what you're saying but it's Sasuke. People calling him likeable is well...just so wrong, imo XD

It isn't just Sakura and Karin or women in general. Just look at Sauces Kill list...erh....history:

Sakura (the girl in love with him)- tried to kill her twice
Karin ( the girl who has the hots for him)-almost killed her
Naruto(his best friend and a guy who thinks of him as a brother)-tried to kill him 4 times
Itachi (his ACTUAL brother)- tried to/did kill
Kakashi (his mentor and guide)-tried to kill him
Orochimaru (his master)-tried to kill
Kabuto (sibling disciple)-helped kill
The 5 Kage-declared a death sentence to them and would have killed them

.....with a "friend" like Sasuke....who needs enemies :lmao:

But even so it doesn't excuse Sakura (or Naruto for that matter) but Kishi. This is how he wanted to portray love and the power of bondage.....erh, bonds. It's a bit unrealistic honestly.
 
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Even if that's true (I would like some tangible evidence) it doesn't diminish my point, I'm speaking on Hinata's behalf not Naruto's.
So you want proof of something that is already common knowledge amongst fans? Were you here when the Last was coming out?

You've made it a point to say that it was a character flaw of Sakura to be romantically inclined to Sasuke since he never wanted her (which is your opinion) but in retrospect Hinata also had romantic feelings for someone who did not have them for her for 700 chapters.

Let's stay on track Shazzy boy.,
No its not my opinion go read the manga. Sasuke never wanted Sakura. Show me proof he did?

Wow are you really trying to compare the two pairings based on such vague detail? Show me instances where Hinata tried to murder Naruto or Naruto tried to murder Hinata. These two pairings are nothing alike. The only thing alike about them is the fact that the girl was the one who was crushing on the male. But if you wanna go by that logic than you could compare any relationship.


That's your opinion, many others are inclined to disagree. The dynamic and history between Sasuke and Sakura is to complex for your short attention span. You could never rationalize the following with Einsteins brain.,

As usual you are trying to sound smart when you are a complete dumbass. There is nothing complex about this relationship. Its only complex for fans like you who are trying to search for a reason in such a messed up pairing.


SasuSaku was forced too.
Realistically it should have never happen. Even for manga standards.
 
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All the pairings were fanservice to please well obviously the fans who were the majority. We have to live with the mess.

But at least I can stand SS because I once was one before.

I was fooled by the intentional NS trick but you can't blame me because the author chose to trick people by developing a pairing he had no intentions of making cannon. Then patch up his writing device with a shitty wedding movie.
 
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  • Sakura and Ino + a bunch of other girls fall for Sasuke due to his looks
  • Sasuke doesn't care
  • Sasuke tries to go on a path to gain power can revenge his clan
  • Sakura wants to tag along
  • Sasuke thinks Sakura as a friend but not as some lover (it has only been some months on the same team)
  • Sakura still thinks the world revolves around her and doesn't see the forest from the trees and begs for him to stay for her sake
  • WTF thinks Sasuke and leaves
  • Sakura tosses Naruto into some promise of a lifetime bullshit
  • Naruto accepts but was going to get Sasuke back anyway for another reason not for some selfish love but to save Sasuke from the Darkness
  • Everyone wants to save Sasuke from the darkness, Sakura tags along with this ideology by training
  • She meets Sasuke again, whining Sakura re-surfaces
  • Whines about some bond and love they never had
  • Sasuke ignores her and focuses and Naruto
  • Blah Blah Blah more stuff continue
  • Sasuke kills Itachi, goes after the Kages after learning the truth
  • Sasuke is considered a criminal due to the cloud village, a bunch of people agree they now need to take down Sasuke
  • Sakura cries thinking she can't bang a dead dude
  • believes she is the only one who must kill him like some romance shit
  • Tries to make Naruto back off by again thinking everything revolves around her
  • Naruto tells her to back off
  • She runs away (whoo poor me, poor love)
  • makes her group sleep and goes off to "kill" Sasuke
  • Sasuke sees this crazy person return again who was once a comrade but now believes they're lovers or some shit
  • Doesn't even give a shit anymore, will now kill this is thorn on his side
  • Kakashi comes in, ****
  • Sakura jumps in again, yes die thorn
  • Naruto saves her

  • blah, blah, blah
  • War with Madara. Sasuke arrives with Kages
  • Sakura jizzes
  • Sasuke is focesed at what is at hand
  • Sakura meanwhile believes this is the perfect time to impress
  • fails, gets saved
  • only thanks Sasuke and wonder how he thinks about her right now
  • He only cares about the war by the way
  • blah, blah, blah
  • Sasuke wants to fight Naruto
  • Sakura comes in again
  • Sasuke is literally tired of this shit
  • Sakura says that "if you love me..."
  • wait, WHAT?
  • Sasuke doesn't have time for this shit, literally how many times did he have to endure this
  • Kakashi and Naruto basically mentally agree
  • takes her out with a genjutsu
 

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true or not, it doesn't really change anything.

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Sure, anyone can think Sasuke got with her out of pity so they can allow themselves to not think any less of Sasuke for it, but then they'd just be supporting a false narrative.
Is that the only instance we see of Sasuke showing any romantic feelings for Sakura?
 

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  • Sakura and Ino + a bunch of other girls fall for Sasuke due to his looks
  • Sasuke doesn't care
  • Sasuke tries to go on a path to gain power can revenge his clan
  • Sakura wants to tag along
  • Sasuke thinks Sakura as a friend but not as some lover (it has only been some months on the same team)
  • Sakura still thinks the world revolves around her and doesn't see the forest from the trees and begs for him to stay for her sake
  • WTF thinks Sasuke and leaves
  • Sakura tosses Naruto into some promise of a lifetime bullshit
  • Naruto accepts but was going to get Sasuke back anyway for another reason not for some selfish love but to save Sasuke from the Darkness
  • Everyone wants to save Sasuke from the darkness, Sakura tags along with this ideology by training
  • She meets Sasuke again, whining Sakura re-surfaces
  • Whines about some bond and love they never had
  • Sasuke ignores her and focuses and Naruto
  • Blah Blah Blah more stuff continue
  • Sasuke kills Itachi, goes after the Kages after learning the truth
  • Sasuke is considered a criminal due to the cloud village, a bunch of people agree they now need to take down Sasuke
  • Sakura cries thinking she can't bang a dead dude
  • believes she is the only one who must kill him like some romance shit
  • Tries to make Naruto back off by again thinking everything revolves around her
  • Naruto tells her to back off
  • She runs away (whoo poor me, poor love)
  • makes her group sleep and goes off to "kill" Sasuke
  • Sasuke sees this crazy person return again who was once a comrade but now believes they're lovers or some shit
  • Doesn't even give a shit anymore, will now kill this is thorn on his side
  • Kakashi comes in, ****
  • Sakura jumps in again, yes die thorn
  • Naruto saves her

  • blah, blah, blah
  • War with Madara. Sasuke arrives with Kages
  • Sakura jizzes
  • Sasuke is focesed at what is at hand
  • Sakura meanwhile believes this is the perfect time to impress
  • fails, gets saved
  • only thanks Sasuke and wonder how he thinks about her right now
  • He only cares about the war by the way
  • blah, blah, blah
  • Sasuke wants to fight Naruto
  • Sakura comes in again
  • Sasuke is literally tired of this shit
  • Sakura says that "if you love me..."
  • wait, WHAT?
  • Sasuke doesn't have time for this shit, literally how many times did he have to endure this
  • Kakashi and Naruto basically mentally agree
  • takes her out with a genjutsu
Wow, I wish I could write a wall of text like that for NH that is strictly from the manga just like this. Also you forgot the rest of it and or neglected it. JS, it was probably on purpose though XD
 

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If only part 2 didn't poop on SS as much. Much better pairing in part one.
Ikr XD

I mean when Sakura was fighting the sound ninja in the Forest of death and she got hurt and Sasuke woke up and first entered CM level 1, that was about the 1st time he actually showed he at least cared about Sakura.

He got all pissed and was like "who did this to you" then broke that one sound ninja dude's arms. There should have been more of that type of stuff if Kishi was going to pair the 2.

There should have been a Sasuke arc where Sakura was actually following him/fighting him/fighting along side of him to establish a romantic bond between them. There should have been a kiss in there somewhere. And Sasuke should have been reluctant to kill her. Putting her under Genjutsu to get her out of the way I can understand as that wouldn't physically harm her, but it should have been some type of pleasant illusion to show that he cares and a chidori through the chest which was basically mind rape.
 

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Sasuke was not a psychopath. But he did have antisocial tendencies. He's like how Dexter was after his mother was chopped up in front of him.

On another note, you wouldn't be angry if you found out that the people behind the government discriminated, suppressed, and persecuted your entire family, who if not for them, that said government or place would not exist. Then they use your clan as lapdogs, spread nasty rumors about them, and give them a position in order to inspire hatred in others for them?

Then they hire someone you care about to kill them, because they were angry with their current situation (Everyone got a slice of the pie while the Uchiha got the crumbs, then you kill that person and find out that the same government that did those things were behind the massacre.

You'll have to be pretty stupid if you don't understand the pain, heartache, and anger that Sasuke felt, and say that you wouldn't be angry.
You're retarded if you think killing ppl that had nothing to do with his situation is justified, I bet you're ok with that one guy killing all those police officers in california as well huh? Once again, Sasuke is nothing but a psychopath who throws his anger at victims who have nothing to do with nor even know the truth about his situation.
 

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Lol, seriously?

Sakura is a representative of the 21st century shallow bimbo that goes for the asshоle based on some loosely defined form of "love" and tolerates all form of abuse. Throw in the fact that she's indecisive as hell, has put her friends at risk all for the sake of that guy, is generally not that useful, isn't well written or entertaining to watch in the slightest, and... yeah, it's pretty easy not to like her, simply because she's a trash character.

Sasuke, on the other hand, throughout the whole time was driven by goals many readers can agree with and justify what he was doing. Wasn't chasing a girl all this time because of a non-existent good reason for falling in love, so you know - he wasn't one-dimensional. Now throw in the fact that he knows what he has to do and does it, is a strong badass, and is by far one of the best characters in the series, plus the funny fact that almost killing an annoyance like Sakura was poetic justice and also won him fans makes him completely incomparable to her.

Polar opposites, really.
 
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Sakura (the girl in love with him)- tried to kill her twice
she tried to kill him too

Itachi (his ACTUAL brother)- tried to/did kill
itachi mentally tortured him TWICE, once when he was 7, and when he was 12. untop of physically beating him up and smacking him to the wall.

Kakashi (his mentor and guide)-tried to kill him
kakashi planned to kill him as well, he was going to take the burden off sakura and kill sasuke himself

Orochimaru (his master)-tried to kill
orochimaru planned to take his body thus robbing him of his free will and everything. he also forcefully gave sasuke cm which caused him pain and would have killed him if sasuke wasnt strong enough mentally to suppress it and later control it.

Kabuto (sibling disciple)-helped kill
kabuto wanted to take his body and experiment on it to further his own agenda. he made that clear during their battle
But even so it doesn't excuse Sakura (or Naruto for that matter) but Kishi. This is how he wanted to portray love and the power of bondage.....erh, bonds. It's a bit unrealistic honestly.
lets not act like some of those people you mentioned didnt have ill intentions towards him(oro/kabuto), caused him pain(itachi) or had intent to kill him at a certain point in time (kakashi/sakura).

it wasnt all beds and roses on their part. agree with the rest though. anyways op misses the point. sasuke in general is tiers above sakura in characterization so cant blame poeple if they dont bash him for things they bash sakura. ambivalence pretty much kills it
 
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she tried to kill him too


itachi mentally tortured him TWICE, once when he was 7, and when he was 12. untop of physically beating him up and smacking him to the wall.


kakashi planned to kill him as well, he was going to take the burden off sakura and kill sasuke himself


orochimaru planned to take his body thus robbing him of his free will and everything. he also forcefully gave sasuke cm which caused him pain and would have killed him if sasuke wasnt strong enough mentally to suppress it and later control it.


kabuto wanted to take his body and experiment on it to further his own agenda. he made that clear during their battle

lets not act like some of those people you mentioned didnt have ill intentions towards him(oro/kabuto), caused him pain(itachi) or had intent to kill him at a certain point in time (kakashi/sakura).

it wasnt all beds and roses on their part. agree with the rest though. anyways op misses the point. sasuke in general is tiers above sakura in characterization so cant blame poeple if they dont bash him for things they bash sakura. ambivalence pretty much kills it

Don't try to justify half that list. I can understand Orochimaru Kabuto and Itachi. I threw those in there because he was close to them as well. The others is a BS excuse. Sasuke started the madness. Sakura, Kakashi, and Naruto didn't try to kill him first. Sasuke started that. Don't act like Sauce was some innocent guy that the rest of the world was out to get. In reality he is a Pychopath regardless of how it happened.

Simply because we understand the circumstances of why he is the way he is does not make him an ok guy. Tons of other ninja have endured the same and more yet those same ninja did not decide to try and kill their best friends, lovers ( I use that term VERY loosely)or village as a result.

You can like Sasuke it's fine. But don't claim that he is justified or a likable fellow. He wasn't. Adult Sasuke sure but the Sasuke we all know for 700 chapters was dangerous plain and simple
 
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So you want proof of something that is already common knowledge amongst fans? Were you here when the Last was coming out?
Anything can be common just as knowlage but facts negate them both. You said Kishi said so when, where and how did he say it?

No its not my opinion go read the manga. Sasuke never wanted Sakura. Show me proof he did?
Slow down, i never said Sasuke wanted Sakura (never) and I never labeled his non-interest as an opinion Shazzy boy.

Go back and read!

You said: And lets be for real here NaruHina made far more sense than this SasuSaku pairing. Naruto never did anything to not deserve Hinata, I say that's an opinion (which it is). Whether you think one makes more sense then the other is an opinion. Need a definition?

Wow are you really trying to compare the two pairings based on such vague detail?
No you are lol you suck this lol

Show me instances where Hinata tried to murder Naruto or Naruto tried to murder Hinata.
Why would I need to post that? Sis I ever say she tried to kill Naruto? Did I ever say Naruto mistreated Hinata or are we just making things up? I kind of feel like you enjoy hearing your talk or type**

These two pairings are nothing alike. The only thing alike about them is the fact that the girl was the one who was crushing on the male. But if you wanna go by that logic than you could compare any relationship.




As usual you are trying to sound smart when you are a complete dumbass. There is nothing complex about this relationship. Its only complex for fans like you who are trying to search for a reason in such a messed up pairing.




Realistically it should have never happen. Even for manga standards.
This last quote is utter garbage.
 

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Ikr XD

I mean when Sakura was fighting the sound ninja in the Forest of death and she got hurt and Sasuke woke up and first entered CM level 1, that was about the 1st time he actually showed he at least cared about Sakura.

He got all pissed and was like "who did this to you" then broke that one sound ninja dude's arms. There should have been more of that type of stuff if Kishi was going to pair the 2.

There should have been a Sasuke arc where Sakura was actually following him/fighting him/fighting along side of him to establish a romantic bond between them. There should have been a kiss in there somewhere. And Sasuke should have been reluctant to kill her. Putting her under Genjutsu to get her out of the way I can understand as that wouldn't physically harm her, but it should have been some type of pleasant illusion to show that he cares and a chidori through the chest which was basically mind rape.
Yea that genjutsu was a bit excessive. Kind of feel kishi was being mean, especially since he apparently knew the pairings ages ago. Almost like the BS in gaiden about saradas birth.
 

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Because she's a complete idiot, who still spread her legs for Sasuke after what he did. Sakura has no self-respect and that is where she fails with a character among other reasons. She fails completely as a main heroine thanks to their garbage relationship and Kishi himself. That is why people dislike her within the fanbase.

Sakura's feats deserve credit, but her personality and character traits negatively effects her in the spotlight. She is a perfect example of how to fail when it comes down to developing a main heroine in a story.
Basically this.

I totally criticize Sasuke when it comes to being in a relationship with Sakura (mentally) and post (marriage) all the time, by the way. Although the post argument only deals with his absence rather than their complete relationship.

Still I have more respect because even Sasuke knew he gave nothing to Sakura for him to love him from start to finish in this damn Manga.
 

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Yea that genjutsu was a bit excessive. Kind of feel kishi was being mean, especially since he apparently knew the pairings ages ago. Almost like the BS in gaiden about saradas birth.
Nah he wanted to play the pairing fiddle till the end. He admits it too basically.

His tricks made his two main cannon pairings suffer in some way. Though I still don't think the genjutsu was excessive if you want to make your character believable. But I agree the baby mama drama was mean, it's like he wants people to dislike Sakura at times. I guess on a writers standpoint he knows she stirs up a frenzy because she is a popular character in that right. So he uses her in sticky situations.
 
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