Double MS Obito without Senjuu DNA is not so OP and overrated

[KCMNaruto]

Hello guys I would like to explain why Double MS Obito without Senjuu DNA is not so OP and is overrated.

1) Without Senjuu DNA Obito would have no enough time/health of eyes to master use of Kamui
2) Each use of Kamui would cause his eyes to deteoriate and great strain for body.
3) Obito would be incapable of spamming Kamui, as each use would bring pain so he would have intervals between use.
4) Madara would no teach Obito in that case.
5) Obito wouldn't last long and after few tries he would have to switch off his MS to sharingan or completly, make him vurnelable.

So either we imo take Fresh just awoken double MS Obito(use at Kakashi's level Pein arc or even before ) or Mastered Kamui Double MS Obito with very bad sight(he would have to use it from close range) who would go blind in short time.

This Obito would loose to Kaguya, Hagoromo, Hamura, Ashura, Indra, Naruto(Current, BSM), Sasuke(Current, EMS), Madara(Jin, RG, SM, EMS),himself(Jin, Rinnegan and MS in other eye), Hashirama.

He would be on par with MS Itachi, MS Sasuke or other MS users. He would also loose to Minato, Tobirama etc.

However WITH SENJUU DNA Double MS Obito Obito can beat anyoone besides: Kaguya, Hagoromo, Hamura, Ashura, Indra, Naruto, Sasuke, Madara(Jin, RG, SM),himself(Jin)

Thanks for reading !

discuss

 

[Xāvî1]

Uchiha & Uzumakis > Senju and your fav!

Even with out hashi dna obito is OP.

 

[Mellow]

He can't handle his own double kamui Lol

 

[ObitoGokuKakashi]

But the thing is .......

Spoiler

He does. U_U

 

[Trúth]

I disagree with a few of your points but I have to agree that it is overrated on this base. Painfully so.

 

[ChocolateVanilla]

Unless you have Naruto level reflexes/speed or S/T, you can't avoid a snipe.
Kakashi hasn't shown much vision loss and he had Obito's eye before he got Senju DNA

 

[KCMNaruto]

Uchiha & Uzumakis > Senju and your fav!

Even with out hashi dna obito is OP.

I call it bullshit, without Hashi DNA Obito would have not other choice as master use of Kamui experiencing side effect each time which is strain on body and loosing eyesight or else he would be noob with Kamui who would take too much time to warp/snipe so opponent could beat.Also Obito would not last long.

He can't handle his own double kamui Lol

lol true, maybe he would use it two/tree times at the most and he would have to train it

What a luck

But the thing is .......

Spoiler

He does. U_U

I call it bullshit, without Hashi DNA Obito would have not other choice as master use of Kamui experiencing side effect each time which is strain on body and loosing eyesight or else he would be noob with Kamui who would take too much time to warp/snipe so opponent could beat.Also Obito would not last long.

I disagree with a few of your points but I have to agree that it is overrated on this base. Painfully so.

Please be more specific I will wait...

glad you agree at least with MS Obito being overrated

Unless you have Naruto level reflexes/speed or S/T, you can't avoid a snipe.
Kakashi hasn't shown much vision loss and he had Obito's eye before he got Senju DNA

Yes, If you reffered to Obito with mastery over Kamui(which would cost him bad eyesight/ close range to snipe required) and strain on body else Obito wouldn't be so special as he would be noob with Kamui. Guess how many times Obito has used Kamui through whole manga and didn't get any bad effect due to Hashirama's DNA.

 

[Gucci45]

He has senju DNA deal with it

 

[TrollKing]

Even with hashi Dna, he still not so op

 

[Indora]

Most stuff in Naruto is overrated.
There are people who think Naruto> Goku

 

[-immortal-]

obito Double Kamui solos your favo character.

 

[KCMNaruto]

He has senju DNA deal with it

Yeah I accept it, I just speak about MS Obito without Senjuu DNA to show much Senjuu DNA gives him and allow him to spam OP moves without risk.

Even with hashi Dna, he still not so op

Sadly he is. Because Hashi's DNA gives him great stamina which allow he to spam attacks. Sure it wouldn't affect god tiers/demi god tiers characters but still.

However without Senjuu DNA Double MS Obito would experience pain and bad eyesight with each use of Kamui.

Most stuff in Naruto is overrated.
There are people who think Naruto> Goku

This is completly retarded but this is no my topic

obito Double Kamui WITH SENJUU DNA solos your favo character unless you favourite is Naruto, Sasuke, Kaguya, Hagoromo, Hamura, Ashura, Indra.

Fixed for you , Also now I agree

 

[Cobra the Sage]

OP your grammar is horrible

OT: your argument is a what if... so basically your thread is pointless useless garbage

 

[ChocolateVanilla]

I call it bullshit, without Hashi DNA Obito would have not other choice as master use of Kamui experiencing side effect each time which is strain on body and loosing eyesight or else he would be noob with Kamui who would take too much time to warp/snipe so opponent could beat.Also Obito would not last long.



lol true, maybe he would use it two/tree times at the most and he would have to train it

What a luck



I call it bullshit, without Hashi DNA Obito would have not other choice as master use of Kamui experiencing side effect each time which is strain on body and loosing eyesight or else he would be noob with Kamui who would take too much time to warp/snipe so opponent could beat.Also Obito would not last long.



Please be more specific I will wait...

glad you agree at least with MS Obito being overrated



Yes, If you reffered to Obito with mastery over Kamui(which would cost him bad eyesight/ close range to snipe required) and strain on body else Obito wouldn't be so special as he would be noob with Kamui. Guess how many times Obito has used Kamui through whole manga and didn't get any bad effect due to Hashirama's DNA.

Kakashi hasn't shown many signs of deteriorated vision and he's used Kamui just as many times as Obito on-panel

 

[KCMNaruto]

OP your grammar is horrible

OT: your argument is a what if... so basically your thread is pointless useless garbage

surely you are right, just wanted to point out how much Senjuu DNA affect Obito's power/position. It is not just Double Kamui which is lethal but you need something to make you execute Kamui

 

[-immortal-]

Fixed for you , Also now I agree

Is Obito at FUll health right now? thats why you think he Overrated right?

 

[KingHashirama]

I love how fans use the "snipe" idea, but the manga doesn't even come close to this "snipe" idea. you people really think ninja are that dumb or something?

 

[KCMNaruto]

Kakashi hasn't shown many signs of deteriorated vision and he's used Kamui just as many times as Obito on-panel

However Since war arc, Kakashi has been almost constantly in contact with Kurama's chakra, which has same properties as Hashirama's DNA. Boosting your chakra, heal wounds, increase regeneration's rate, increase power of techniques etc.

So IMO Only thanks to Kurama's chakra Kakashi didn't go blind earlier as it wasn't until Naruto temporary died when Kakashi has gone blind

 

[KCMNaruto]

Is Obito at FUll health right now? thats why you think he Overrated right?

Well no, my main point is that People think Obito is only that OP due to just his double MS which give him Kamui forgetting about Senjuu DNA.

NO Senjuu DNA Double MS Obito would be little above MS Sasuke. It is senjuu DNA which as petrol gives him power to spam these Kamui and use them again and again without side effect.

You see IMo MS Obito with Senjuu DNA ~ EMS Obito

It is Kishi's way to give Obito ALMOST EMS without need of sibiling's MS.

I love how fans use the "snipe" idea, but the manga doesn't even come close to this "snipe" idea. you people really think ninja are that dumb or something?

Well you are right, but try reason with people

 

[Everlasting Hebi King]

Yea, a Obito with Hashimaras cells give wood style and strong physical energy , he is very strong , but without it, he is , dear I say , mortal