DoU Debate Tourney | MS Sasuke (Indra) vs Pain (NSUNSR)

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MS Sasuke (Indra)
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Pain (NSUNSR)



Conditions

Location: Konoha Crater

Distance: 75 meters

Intel: Full

Restrictions: Chou Shinra Tensei and Chibaku Tensei for Pain, none for Sasuke

Mindset: IC

Conditions: All 6 paths are fully functional; MS Sasuke has all of his feats shown against the Gokage, Danzo, and Kakashi



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Some music to get in the mood.
[video=youtube;pI7Jc-fSQQ8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pI7Jc-fSQQ8[/video]​




Formation

The formation will be the same, as it was when Pain fought Naruto, with the only difference being, that Deva will be infront, since he is healthy. The most important thing about the formation is keeping Naraka Path alive, since he is vital for this fight.​

CQC

Going into close quarters combat is nothing, but self - destruction for Sasuke. While Sasuke has shown impressive speed, and reaction feats, the 6 paths should not be underrated, as they have shown great reaction, and speed feats too, when they were able to counter , and . At one point Deva was even able to . Furthermore Sasuke is fighting six opponents at once, and is left vulnerable to attacks like Bansho Tennin, Soul Removal, or Preta Path's absorption jutsu, which will result into instant KO.​

Countering Normal 3T Techniques


These are jutsus, which will most likely not be used by Sasuke, who after achieving the MS, tended to overuse Susanoo, and Amaterasu, but for the sake of not leaving any possibilities out, i will mention them.

Great FireBall Jutsu: Absorbed by Preta Path, or easily dodged by any of the paths. If the Giant Crab has been summoned will wash off the fire.

Great DragonFire Technique
: The only new threat, which this jutsu comes with, is that it can be used be used to set up Kirin. Wild Bubble Wave can yet again be used to wash off the fire.

Kirin: Sasuke's strongest 3T jutsu. Although dangerous, Sasuke will not get the prep, to even use it. Furthermore he has to first , meaning that he can be ambushed by the paths. Finally Shinra Tensei can simply block Kirin, but none of this is even needed, since Sasuke won't get the prep he needs. In the battle against Itachi the Great DragonFire jutsu, and a covered in black flames were needed for the prep.

Chidori Variants: Chidori Spear is a rather weak ranged attack, able to cover only of distance, meaning that Sasuke will have to get in CQC range, which leaves him vulnerable to Summoning attacks, Bansho Tennin, Soul Steal, and Preta Path's Absorption Jutsu. Chidori Senbon is either dodged, absorbed, blown away by Shinra Tensei, or blocked by . Chidori's current range is also short, and will leave Sasuke vulnerable to attacks from the other paths.​

Countering Amaterasu

Amaterasu has a rather small range, meaning that Sasuke will have to get close to Pain. To keep Sasuke out of the range of Amaterasu, Summons can be sacrificed, Asura can attack with rockets, or Deva can simply blow away Sasuke with Shinra Tensei. Although only Deva, and Preta can defend themselves from Amaterasu, the other paths can survive too. Preta Path, can absorb the flames from the damaged path, and Naraka can fix them with King Of Hell. King Of Hell is able to heal the paths in just a few seconds, as seen when Jiraya , but after , the other paths had . This means that even if Sasuke takes out a path, it won't be a big problem.​

Countering Susanoo

Suasano is MS Sasuke's strongest jutsu providing not only great defence, but also good firepower. However, it does come with its weaknesses. The stradegy to defeating Susanoo comes with a few steps. First, Asura Path will continiosly shoot missles at it. While this will cause bare to none damage to anything above Skeletal Susanoo, it will create a around Sasuke, and block his vision. While Sasuke's vision is blocked, Animal Path will summon the Chameleon. After that Deva and Preta Path to go inside its mouth. The Chameleon then turns invisible, and goes behind Sasuke. While this procedure occurs, Animal Path will continue to summon animals to distract Sasuke. When the Chameleon gets behind Sasuke there are 2 options. First one is for Deva to from the back, after which the paths in the front go in and stab Sasuke to death, or Human Path just simply steals his soul. The second way to deal with Susanoo, is for Deva to use Bansho Tennin, to pull . Deva's pull has already been shown to be , so getting Sasuke from the feet won't be a problem. However, some might argue that Susanoo must be first restrained. Well this also isn't a problem, because the Chameleon can use its long tongue to catch Sasuke's Susanoo. After being pulled out Sasuke gets either stabbed to death, or caught by Preta Path and drained out of chakra. As we can see Pain can defeat Susanoo, but how will he defend himself from it? Defending will only be needed, if Sasuke goes in Susanoo right off the bat, and doesn't allow for Pain to make their plan. Consequently either Preta absorbs the upcoming attack, or Deva blows it away. The Panda can also be used to stop the arrow in its tracks.​

Genjutsu

Genjutsu manipulates the victims brain to create illusions. However, Pain are dead bodies, and hold no thoughts, so genjutsu won't affect them. It is as simple as that.​

Possible weak points

How will Shinra Tensei stop something like Kirin? ST has already been able to easily fend off Rasenshuriken, a jutsu known for Kurama. It was even able to send 3 giant , crossing miles of distance while in the air. How will Pain react to Susanoo Arrows? An exhausted Deva Path was able to only a meter away from him, and even Animal Path was to SM Jiraya's fastest ninjutsu at a close distance.​

Overview of The Battle

There are two ways for this fight to go. The more unlikely way, is for Sasuke to try kill Pain in CQC combat, where he will be killed by being overwhelmed, or by dangerous attacks like Bansho Tennin, Soul Removal, Shinra Tensei etc.
The other scenario is for Sasuke to fight in Susanoo, which as explained above can be countered. Pain wins in every scenario possible, as he completely dominates in this battle.​

Edit:
Fixed some grammar/vocabulary mistakes; fixed a few sentences, which made no sense the way i wrote them, for example : "In the battle against Itachi the Great DragonFire jutsu, and a forest covered in black flames", was changed to "In the battle against Itachi the Great DragonFire jutsu, and a forest covered in black flames were needed for the prep".
 
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inb4 Sasuke wins low difference.
 

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Just wanted to post Good luck to both debaters! Looking forward to Indra's use of MS Sasuke since he's a clever guy. & NUNSR is right at home with 6POP for those who witnessed his great debate against Young Debater (War Arc SM Naruto). Can't wait to see this unfold!
 
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