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Well since the latest chapters I been feeling Sasuke is all "innocent" again..
but I don't think there will be a happy ending for Sasuke/Naruto..
The reason why is because the whole point of Naruto chasing Sasuke is to save him from the darkness/hatred
But they already gave that ending to someone else..Nagato..
The reason I think this is because of the way Sasuke left, he left out of choice, he did all those things himself, he wasn't forced into the situation of Orochimaru
Even when Naruto caught up with him at the early part of Shippuden Sasuke was about to use "that jutsu" which was later to be shown to be Kirin on Naruto/Sakura/Sai but Orochimaru stopped him, and then later after the Summit Naruto told Sasuke if they fought again they would both die, this kinda tells me Naruto "gave up" on saving him and has decided to kill him instead, even if he dies as well
Now lets compare Nagato
Naruto and Nagato never met before the fight, they didn't know each other at all. They both are from the Uzumaki clan, and where as Sasuke chose his path Nagato was kind of led on by events in his life and then led on further by Tobi
They shared pain and suffering, Narutos being a Jinchuuriki and Nagato having a terrible child hood and then forced to kill his best friend(well yahiko kinda killed himself but still..) they also shared the same master, as Nagato pointed out "We are sibling disciples, sharing the same Sensei we should be able to understand each other" and there goals are the same, bringing peace to the ninja world, Naruto's method being "light" and Nagato's being "dark"
Now after everything happened and Naruto met Nagato in the paper tree he said that he could never forgive him..but refrained from attacking/killing him because he wanted to know Nagato's pain..this in my opinion is the give away for Sasuke being out of reach..ill get to that later
After talk no jutsu with Nagato, it really wasn't talk no jutsu as Naruto didn't say much..Nagato realized he had chose the wrong path with that flashback of how Jiraiya came up with the name "Naruto" from Nagato and how Nagato envisioned himself as the ninja who "never gave up" in the book Jiraiya wrote
After resurrecting the village Naruto forgave him entirely, this can be seen after Nagato was Edo'd and absorbed some Ninjutsu and Naruto spoke to him casually "Hey Nagato you gotta teach me how you do that" but Nagato's mind was gone at that point..
Naruto also stated: "I inherited the guts to never give up from my master and pain from my sibling disciple.." (some translations change sib disciple to brother)
Even tho Naruto only knew Nagato for such a short time and most of that time he hated Nagato he was able to forgive and forget and generally saved Nagato from "darkness"
Now Sasuke..at the start of his adventure after Orochimaru he was avoiding killing innocent people, but after Itachi he kind of went bat shit crazy..but even tho he was avoiding killing innocence that didn't stop him from trying to use Kirin on his former team mates..
He also was going to kill Sakura..if Naruto hadn't of stepped in..
As long as Naruto/Sasuke known each other the hatred is deep and Sasuke didn't even do anything to Konoha..although Naruto doesn't feel "hatred" toward Sasuke its clear Sasuke doesn't care about Naruto..and Naruto pretty much came to the decision that if they fight again Sasuke will die, and himself
Now that Itachi is around Sasuke appears to be "innocent" again..but after Itachi leaves he will probably plunge deeper into darkness then before..probably because him and Itachi won't get to talk..as promised..
In my opinion Sasuke is destined to be the end-game villain and will not be savable. Naruto knows Sasuke's pain to an extent, Sasuke claims he doesn't because he never had a family to begin with but in a way he does know that pain since Jiraiya's death, Naruto knows what its like to be alone in the world
but even knowing Sasuke's pain to an extent doesn't seem to help him reach Sasuke..I think this is why they did Nagato the way they did..Naruto was able to stand before him and not kill him, even tho he wanted to so bad..they had no previous bond but Naruto was able to subside that hatred and listen to Nagato's story, forming a bond in the end
but with Sasuke..the hatred might not be present in Naruto (yet..i think Sasuke will do something unforgivable in the near future) but its clear Sasuke doesn't give 2 shits about Naruto nor Sakura or Kakashi..I think Nagato was the "save from hatred" character because in the end game it is going to be Sasuke vs Naruto and Sasuke will not be savable, he might turn a 360 as hes dieing..but there wont be any story telling or subsiding hatred until they are mortally wounded and dieing..then there might be some forgive no jutsu...
I just think it was weird that Naruto "saved" Nagato from darkness(which led to his death..) without knowing him before hand..but yet Sasuke who he knew from the start just utterly rejects all of Naruto's attempts to save him and even attempts to kill Sakura/Kakashi and use Kirin (orochimaru stopped him tho) on his former team even though they had a previous bond
I just think its a hint that Sasuke won't be savable, Naruto pulled a character he didn't know out of darkness without much effort but all the effort toward Sasuke has been in vain.. I feel they used that part on Nagato to show Sasuke is too far gone and has to die..
I could be wrong tho, Nagato wasn't really that far gone into darkness, his goal was peace and justice and in his mind destroying Konoha was fair considering they destroyed Amagakure(prob wrong spelling) with there wars that had nothing to do with that country..he was just going about "Peace and Justice" the wrong way, and Nagato appeared to know about the "cycle of hatred" that spawns from Vengeance, and the whole time Nagato was invading Konoha he was quite calm and didn't really show any animosity or hatred toward Konoha, he just thought it was fair, it was his justice
But Sasuke's reason for destroying Konoha is out of hatred for what they did to Itachi and his clan, pure Vengeance.."True Avenger" as Tobi would say..and where as Nagato was calm and quite emotionless if Sasuke destroys Konoha I can't see him being calm, I see him laughing hysterically and just generally going bananas..even tho..Konoha..is still kind of leveled from Nagato..not really much to destroy there..
What do you guys think? Is Sasuke savable? sure hes innocent now..but 1 more broken promise from Itachi and I think hes going to blow his top..plus Sasuke has already committed great crimes at Kage Summit and I don't think the international community will be so forgiving as Naruto..I just feel hes doomed to be a bad seed
You can compare Naruto and Sasuke to Hashirama and Madara, except Sasuke probably won't hold Naruto in high regard like Madara does Hashi
but I don't think there will be a happy ending for Sasuke/Naruto..
The reason why is because the whole point of Naruto chasing Sasuke is to save him from the darkness/hatred
But they already gave that ending to someone else..Nagato..
The reason I think this is because of the way Sasuke left, he left out of choice, he did all those things himself, he wasn't forced into the situation of Orochimaru
Even when Naruto caught up with him at the early part of Shippuden Sasuke was about to use "that jutsu" which was later to be shown to be Kirin on Naruto/Sakura/Sai but Orochimaru stopped him, and then later after the Summit Naruto told Sasuke if they fought again they would both die, this kinda tells me Naruto "gave up" on saving him and has decided to kill him instead, even if he dies as well
Now lets compare Nagato
Naruto and Nagato never met before the fight, they didn't know each other at all. They both are from the Uzumaki clan, and where as Sasuke chose his path Nagato was kind of led on by events in his life and then led on further by Tobi
They shared pain and suffering, Narutos being a Jinchuuriki and Nagato having a terrible child hood and then forced to kill his best friend(well yahiko kinda killed himself but still..) they also shared the same master, as Nagato pointed out "We are sibling disciples, sharing the same Sensei we should be able to understand each other" and there goals are the same, bringing peace to the ninja world, Naruto's method being "light" and Nagato's being "dark"
Now after everything happened and Naruto met Nagato in the paper tree he said that he could never forgive him..but refrained from attacking/killing him because he wanted to know Nagato's pain..this in my opinion is the give away for Sasuke being out of reach..ill get to that later
After talk no jutsu with Nagato, it really wasn't talk no jutsu as Naruto didn't say much..Nagato realized he had chose the wrong path with that flashback of how Jiraiya came up with the name "Naruto" from Nagato and how Nagato envisioned himself as the ninja who "never gave up" in the book Jiraiya wrote
After resurrecting the village Naruto forgave him entirely, this can be seen after Nagato was Edo'd and absorbed some Ninjutsu and Naruto spoke to him casually "Hey Nagato you gotta teach me how you do that" but Nagato's mind was gone at that point..
Naruto also stated: "I inherited the guts to never give up from my master and pain from my sibling disciple.." (some translations change sib disciple to brother)
Even tho Naruto only knew Nagato for such a short time and most of that time he hated Nagato he was able to forgive and forget and generally saved Nagato from "darkness"
Now Sasuke..at the start of his adventure after Orochimaru he was avoiding killing innocent people, but after Itachi he kind of went bat shit crazy..but even tho he was avoiding killing innocence that didn't stop him from trying to use Kirin on his former team mates..
He also was going to kill Sakura..if Naruto hadn't of stepped in..
As long as Naruto/Sasuke known each other the hatred is deep and Sasuke didn't even do anything to Konoha..although Naruto doesn't feel "hatred" toward Sasuke its clear Sasuke doesn't care about Naruto..and Naruto pretty much came to the decision that if they fight again Sasuke will die, and himself
Now that Itachi is around Sasuke appears to be "innocent" again..but after Itachi leaves he will probably plunge deeper into darkness then before..probably because him and Itachi won't get to talk..as promised..
In my opinion Sasuke is destined to be the end-game villain and will not be savable. Naruto knows Sasuke's pain to an extent, Sasuke claims he doesn't because he never had a family to begin with but in a way he does know that pain since Jiraiya's death, Naruto knows what its like to be alone in the world
but even knowing Sasuke's pain to an extent doesn't seem to help him reach Sasuke..I think this is why they did Nagato the way they did..Naruto was able to stand before him and not kill him, even tho he wanted to so bad..they had no previous bond but Naruto was able to subside that hatred and listen to Nagato's story, forming a bond in the end
but with Sasuke..the hatred might not be present in Naruto (yet..i think Sasuke will do something unforgivable in the near future) but its clear Sasuke doesn't give 2 shits about Naruto nor Sakura or Kakashi..I think Nagato was the "save from hatred" character because in the end game it is going to be Sasuke vs Naruto and Sasuke will not be savable, he might turn a 360 as hes dieing..but there wont be any story telling or subsiding hatred until they are mortally wounded and dieing..then there might be some forgive no jutsu...
I just think it was weird that Naruto "saved" Nagato from darkness(which led to his death..) without knowing him before hand..but yet Sasuke who he knew from the start just utterly rejects all of Naruto's attempts to save him and even attempts to kill Sakura/Kakashi and use Kirin (orochimaru stopped him tho) on his former team even though they had a previous bond
I just think its a hint that Sasuke won't be savable, Naruto pulled a character he didn't know out of darkness without much effort but all the effort toward Sasuke has been in vain.. I feel they used that part on Nagato to show Sasuke is too far gone and has to die..
I could be wrong tho, Nagato wasn't really that far gone into darkness, his goal was peace and justice and in his mind destroying Konoha was fair considering they destroyed Amagakure(prob wrong spelling) with there wars that had nothing to do with that country..he was just going about "Peace and Justice" the wrong way, and Nagato appeared to know about the "cycle of hatred" that spawns from Vengeance, and the whole time Nagato was invading Konoha he was quite calm and didn't really show any animosity or hatred toward Konoha, he just thought it was fair, it was his justice
But Sasuke's reason for destroying Konoha is out of hatred for what they did to Itachi and his clan, pure Vengeance.."True Avenger" as Tobi would say..and where as Nagato was calm and quite emotionless if Sasuke destroys Konoha I can't see him being calm, I see him laughing hysterically and just generally going bananas..even tho..Konoha..is still kind of leveled from Nagato..not really much to destroy there..
What do you guys think? Is Sasuke savable? sure hes innocent now..but 1 more broken promise from Itachi and I think hes going to blow his top..plus Sasuke has already committed great crimes at Kage Summit and I don't think the international community will be so forgiving as Naruto..I just feel hes doomed to be a bad seed
You can compare Naruto and Sasuke to Hashirama and Madara, except Sasuke probably won't hold Naruto in high regard like Madara does Hashi
