Dont say kabuto solos anyone in Narutoverse

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Kabuto, even without his edo army (which technically count as summons so they are fair game), is an EXTREMELY powerful ninja. With his vast capabilities in medical ninjustu, DNA enhancements, tactical abilities, and the fact he's very smart, makes him a very powerful ninja and arguably in the top 10.
 

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You cant compare a shadow clone to an edo tensei ninja. and your mis understanding. I never said he could not use Edo tensei or that summoning jutsu are not allowed. im just saying that after someone summons anything its not 1v1 anymore. Naruto summoned a toad against Pain. he beat pain but did not solo him. it was naruto a few toads plus hinata but he won. he defeated pain but did not solo him. understand?

It boils down to if you consider Kuchiyose to be someone's personal power. I say if it's in their arsenal then it's their power.
 

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So I guess Orochimaru can't summon his snakes from his hand and mouths because then it would not be 1v1. Or Sasori should not be allowed to use his puppets. and Kiba can't use Akamaru. Shino shouldn't be allowed to use his bugs. Kidomaro shouldn't be allowed to use his spiders. Cuz then it wouldn't be 1v1.
 

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Someone above me made a great point. If Kuchiyoses aren't aloud then clones aren't aloud either. Face it, Kabuto at his prime solos anyone. People are just mad because they don't like Kabuto. Edo Tensei is his Jutsu, it's his power.

Then why are the fights called "Hashirama and Tobirama vs. Hiruzen" and "Madara vs. 5 Kages" "And Itachi, Naruto and Bee vs. Nagato?"
According to your logic, it should be Kabuto or orochimaru vs them all. But it's not. Whether you say so or not, 99% of Narutobasers don't consider edo tensei as the user's power no matter what they say.

Therefor, ever member who says that madara defeated the 5 kage is essentially agreeing with me.
 
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You cant compare a shadow clone to an edo tensei ninja. and your mis understanding. I never said he could not use Edo tensei or that summoning jutsu are not allowed. im just saying that after someone summons anything its not 1v1 anymore. Naruto summoned a toad against Pain. he beat pain but did not solo him. it was naruto a few toads plus hinata but he won. he defeated pain but did not solo him. understand?

That thats stupid.

1v1's do include summoning Jutsu's, Those summons are part of a shinobi's arsenal/power, Just like shadow clones and other Jutsu's.

There is no difference from naruto summoning a toad, to him spamming 100 clones, Both are part of his power.

So i'm guessing by your logic, Kakashi didn't defeat zabuza in a 1v1, he defeated him in a 7v1 because he summoned 6 dogs? lulz xd
 

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Then why are the fights called "Hashirama and Tobirama vs. Hiruzen" and "Madara vs. 5 Kages" "And Itachi, Naruto and Bee vs. Nagato?"
According to your logic, it should be Kabuto or orochimaru vs them all. But it's not. Whether you say so or not, 99% of Narutobasers don't consider edo tensei as the user's power no matter what they say.
Are you saying that Edo Tensei doesn't count towards Kabuto's power because of the title of the fights? That's terrible logic.

Off topic, nice Darth Bane reference in your sig.
 

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he has unlimited senjutsu where he can move and gather senjutsu chakra.
 

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Kabuto can't use ET now....so Kabuto sucks more than before.
And w/o ET, Kabuto is nothing worth discussion...
 

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You cant compare a shadow clone to an edo ninja. shadow clones are WAY weaker and dont have as much chakra. and your mis understanding. I never said he could not use Edo tensei or that summoning jutsu are not allowed. im just saying that after someone summons anything its not 1v1 anymore. Naruto summoned a toad against Pain. he beat pain but did not solo him. it was naruto a few toads plus hinata but he won. he defeated pain but did not solo him. understand? im not saying kabuto cannot beat any ninja. just that 37 summons is not soloing anyone. KABUTO CAN KILL ANYONE HE WANTS TO. not taking that away. he just cannot solo anyone. Minato could not solo kyubbi so he summoned a frog. not saying its not legal to use a summon,just that its not a 1v1 situation after that so its not soloing. thats all im saying. kabuto vs any shinobi starts off 1v1 but ends 37 on 1 so its not a solo. its a win none the les not a solo

the reason why you cant compare shadow clones to edos is because edos are much stronger and therefor restricted them.. am i right?

Then why are the fights called "Hashirama and Tobirama vs. Hiruzen" and "Madara vs. 5 Kages" "And Itachi, Naruto and Bee vs. Nagato?"
According to your logic, it should be Kabuto or orochimaru vs them all. But it's not. Whether you say so or not, 99% of Narutobasers don't consider edo tensei as the user's power no matter what they say.

the real reason why ppl restric edo tensei is because many ppl doesnt like kabuto, and dont want him to have that powerfulll tech
i gotta admit im not a big fan of kabuto either.. but facts are facts

edo tensei is simply a summoning jutsu that he mastered better than Orochimaru and Tobirama..
as for the titles.. it would be pointless to say "kabuto vs 5 kages" when kabuto ain't even there.
 
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Are you saying that Edo Tensei doesn't count towards Kabuto's power because of the title of the fights? That's terrible logic.

Off topic, nice Darth Bane reference in your sig.

Are you saying that kabuto defeated the 5 kage then? Or that kabuto defeated himself when itachi sealed nagato? Or that Kabuto defeated himself again when itachi beat him?
 
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Are you saying that kabuto defeated the 5 kage then?

yes

thats like saying naruto summoned a toad and controlled him to kill someone.. simply as that
kabuto even made madara better than his golden age.. which also was one of the reason why madara fodderized the kages
 

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Kabuto can't use ET now....so Kabuto sucks more than before.
And w/o ET, Kabuto is nothing worth discussion...

Fail post.

Without ET, Kabuto has Sage mode/Taka powers/Sound 5 powers/super fast healing.

Powerful enough to fight against both Sasuke/itachi, Also would defeat them both without edo tesnei if itachi wasn't an Edo himself.
 

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That thats stupid.

1v1's do include summoning Jutsu's, Those summons are part of a shinobi's arsenal/power, Just like shadow clones and other Jutsu's.

There is no difference from naruto summoning a toad, to him spamming 100 clones, Both are part of his power.

So i'm guessing by your logic, Kakashi didn't defeat zabuza in a 1v1, he defeated him in a 7v1 because he summoned 6 dogs? lulz xd


Why does that not logically make since thats its not 1v1 after you introduce other fighters into the match? So you are saying that i i summoned 37 ninjas to fight with me its still 1v1? so the 6 paths of pain vs jiraiya was a 1v1? YES if you summon somthing or someone to help you fight its not 1v1 anymore. not saying that its cheap, just that its not soloing a ninja.
Naruto vs sasuke in part one was a good example. Naruto could have summoned a toad but did not. why because he wanted a 1v1 battle. Sasuke in tern soloed naruto. After you bring other ninjas or animals that fight, its not 1v1 anymore. you may win but you did not solo.

Hashirama soloed madara. if madara would have won, he would have still defeated hashirama, but due to kyuubi he did not solo him
 

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yes

thats like saying naruto summoned a toad and controlled him to kill someone.. simply as that
kabuto even made madara better than his golden age.. which also was one of the reason why madara fodderized the kages

And so he also fought himself twice then by your logic?
 

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Why does that not logically make since thats its not 1v1 after you introduce other fighters into the match? So you are saying that i i summoned 37 ninjas to fight with me its still 1v1? so the 6 paths of pain vs jiraiya was a 1v1? YES if you summon somthing or someone to help you fight its not 1v1 anymore. not saying that its cheap, just that its not soloing a ninja.
Naruto vs sasuke in part one was a good example. Naruto could have summoned a toad but did not. why because he wanted a 1v1 battle. Sasuke in tern soloed naruto. After you bring other ninjas or animals that fight, its not 1v1 anymore. you may win but you did not solo.

Hashirama soloed madara. if madara would have won, he would have still defeated hashirama, but due to kyuubi he did not solo him

does that mean if hashirama used 5 wood clones to beat madara, he didn't solo him?
you already told me that, clones and edos are not compareable which means you restricted edo tensei becaues its a powerfull technique? am i wrong?
 

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Sorry bud,edo tensei is kabuto's power whether he summons 30 or 100 edos,so he solos anyone at his prime.

Kabuto with edo is number 1,without edo,he is top 7. He took on an ems user and an edo itachi at the same time and would have ended the fight much sooner if he wanted them dead,so he can solo nearly anyone without edo tensei.

A ninja uses his tools and assets to gain a victory and it's counted as his victory,so having edo tensei is kabuto's tool and if he uses it,any victory achieved belongs to him.

No matter how much people try to argue,kabuto with edo is the most powerful shinobi ever, barring the SO6P
 

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Sorry bud,edo tensei is kabuto's power whether he summons 30 or 100 edos,so he solos anyone at his prime.

Kabuto with edo is number 1,without edo,he is top 7. He took on an ems user and an edo itachi at the same time and would have ended the fight much sooner if he wanted them dead,so he can solo nearly anyone without edo tensei.

A ninja uses his tools and assets to gain a victory and it's counted as his victory,so having edo tensei is kabuto's tool and if he uses it,any victory achieved belongs to him.

No matter how much people try to argue,kabuto with edo is the most powerful shinobi ever, barring the SO6P
 

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Why does that not logically make since thats its not 1v1 after you introduce other fighters into the match? So you are saying that i i summoned 37 ninjas to fight with me its still 1v1? so the 6 paths of pain vs jiraiya was a 1v1? YES if you summon somthing or someone to help you fight its not 1v1 anymore. not saying that its cheap, just that its not soloing a ninja.
Naruto vs sasuke in part one was a good example. Naruto could have summoned a toad but did not. why because he wanted a 1v1 battle. Sasuke in tern soloed naruto. After you bring other ninjas or animals that fight, its not 1v1 anymore. you may win but you did not solo.

Hashirama soloed madara. if madara would have won, he would have still defeated hashirama, but due to kyuubi he did not solo him

So i'll go back to what i was saying befor.

With your logic, Shadow clones doesn't count in a 1v1.

Shadow clones is naruto making more copies of himself to fight (just like summonings to help).

As i said, if you discount summoning, that shadowclones/Wood clones/lightining clones and everyother form of clones are discounted also.

So if naruto makes 100 clones, It's "100 naruto's" vs not just "Naruto vs".
 
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