dont get ahead of yourself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!give him some credit

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Hashirama is clearly the strongest....right?
Orochimaru only summoned a portion of their powers the 1st edo tensei against old Hiruzen.
Old Hiruzen is not Prime Hiruzen(younger)
Old Hiruzen is Fragile Hiruzen.
He fought THE Hashirama/Tobirama and Orochimaru 3on1battlemodetothedeath..
Orochimaru was planning to play around with Hiruzen/spend some time with him
before killing him...He wanted to enjoy it...He could have killed him
when he had him in a headlock/chokehold with a Kunai knife...
He stabbed his own hand and let Hiruzen witness his new jutsu in battle..
Orochimaru (underestimated his old master.overconfident.
Hiruzen (emotional seeing his old masters.cries.didnt want to kill Oro
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Hiruzen is edo but he is STILL OLD, much older and PAST his PRIME.and he still looks cool as a youngster...
well thats that..what do u think?
btw im not bashing im just saying hiruzen is still badazz
he is not at full power when he is old...the only old hokage
example: Madara(special edo prime) Nagato(still crippled)
if u think im wrong...bring it ...i'll debate anybody
 
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Hashirama is clearly the strongest....right?
Orochimaru only summoned a portion of their powers the 1st edo tensei against old Hiruzen.
Old Hiruzen is not Prime Hiruzen(younger)
Old Hiruzen is Fragile Hiruzen.
He fought THE Hashirama/Tobirama and Orochimaru 3on1battlemodetothedeath..
Orochimaru was planning to play around with Hiruzen/spend some time with him
before killing him...He wanted to enjoy it...He could have killed him
when he had him in a headlock/chokehold with a Kunai knife...
He stabbed his own hand and let Hiruzen witness his new jutsu in battle..
Orochimaru (underestimated his old master.overconfident.
Hiruzen (emotional seeing his old masters.cries.didnt want to kill Oro
.

Hiruzen is edo but he is STILL OLD, much older and PAST his PRIME.and he still looks cool as a youngster...
well thats that..what do u think?
btw im not bashing im just saying hiruzen is still badazz
he is not at full power when he is old...the only old hokage
if u think im wrong...bring it ...i'll debate anybody
till Kishi drew this, now apparently Itachi is the better shinobi lol. I can see the versus threads now
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Yeah he's an edo and still old, but I don't think his body is necessarily out of shape or fragile since its like a zetsu edo body. I don't think there's as much strain on his body. I would think that an edo body couldnt get it's muscles torn or anything idk
 

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Yeah he's an edo and still old, but I don't think his body is necessarily out of shape or fragile since its like a zetsu edo body. I don't think there's as much strain on his body. I would think that an edo body couldnt get it's muscles torn or anything idk
thats a good point
but you know Madara was remade special in his prime...
hiruzen is still old...like nagato is crippled
well, i guess i won whatever debate or argument
weeeeeeee.alright!lol
 
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Prime hiruzen is a theory crafted by fanboys. He has not be shown what-so-ever in the manga. I hate how people try to sell a theory as fact. Kishi is a capable writer more so then most this base. He doesn't need your advice developing a (prime hiruzen) character for him.
 

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Prime hiruzen is a theory crafted by fanboys. He has not be shown what-so-ever in the manga. I hate how people try to sell a theory as fact. Kishi is a capable writer more so then most this base. He doesn't need your advice developing a (prime hiruzen) character for him.
the anbu / orochimaru said it before any fanboy or basehead
when Oro attacked the village with the sound and sand ninja
its not make believe
Kishi might make a movie with Prime Hiruzen then you will be amazed and excited to see him
 
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the anbu / orochimaru said it before any fanboy or basehead its not make believe
Kishi might make a movie with Prime Hiruzen then you will be amazed and excited to see him

Prime hiruzen has never been showcased in neither manga or an animated filler. Thus it is a theory. I didn't say make believe. Don't take what I said out of context. That is why when people like you present theory as fact its irritating.
 

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Prime hiruzen has never been showcased in neither manga or an animated filler. Thus it is a theory. I didn't say make believe. Don't take what I said out of context. That is why when people like you present theory as fact its irritating.
Oro and an Anbu stated that age caught up to Hiruzen and he cant make plenty of shadow clones
like he could when he was younger
episode Hokage Battle Royale
thanx forbidden twilight and itachi rane
any takers come on with your best arguments
i cant lose
 
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