[Discussion] Donquixote Doflamingo

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This page pretty much shows that what Doffy was feeling throughout this conversation was indeed anger, and not fear.
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That page is simply where Doffy's anger began, and it escalated as the conversation carried on. You still haven't shown me a panel of him being scared.
But the panel I showed you was fear... It was clear by the dialogue behind it. Why do you think doffy even does business with kaido if he wants to be the pirate king? Clearly cause he scared of kaido killing him.. Doffy wouldn't even be mad at law if he wasn't scared of kaido.. It's pretty clear he's scared and I don't think even oda can make it any clearer. Like Ive said there's no reason to continue this conversation I've shown you enough evidence and proof but your free to believe what you want. So again lets end this buy agreeing to disagree.
 

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No it doesn't, it just means you'd prefer to live than to die. Opposition to something does not mean fear of it; fear is a very specific set of feelings and Doffy has exhibited no signs of feeling fear towards Kaido. Until Doffy:
-sweats
-Pants
-makes irrational decisions
-panics
-has worried expressions on his face

as a response to fighting Kaido, then he hasn't shown fear, just opposition. Fear is a form of opposition, not all opposition is fear. I really don't know how I could make this any clearer.

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His face in middle right panel and The way he was talking with Law in that page clearly shows that he was worried and fears the point of Kaido getting angry. And It's not that I don't get your point. I understand where you are getting at but that logic can't be applied to this particular situation. Whenever it involves death,it's always that fear of death that makes you want to avoid it. I don't think people that doesn't fear death and still treasure their life would try to run away from death. Zoro for example: He has his won goals and treasures his own life since he can't achieve his goal without being alive.But he never displayed any signs of fear of death nor did he run away from death. Same goes for Luffy, Ace etc. I don't really know how I can explain this but you can't use that argument in case of Kaido.
 
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But the panel I showed you was fear... It was clear by the dialogue behind it. Why do you think doffy even does business with kaido if he wants to be the pirate king? Clearly cause he scared of kaido killing him.. Doffy wouldn't even be mad at law if he wasn't scared of kaido.. It's pretty clear he's scared and I don't think even oda can make it any clearer. Like Ive said there's no reason to continue this conversation I've shown you enough evidence and proof but your free to believe what you want. So again lets end this buy agreeing to disagree.
Nope, it was anger. The dialogue behind it was Law looking down on Doffy and being disrespectful because of Law's sarcastic manner of speech, not to mentioning that Law was threatening him in the same breath. Doffy said what he hates most is exactly what Law was doing. Adding into the fact that Law is a former subordinate, which throws in betrayal of someone he considered family to the disrespect, it's not wonder that Doffy lost his composure in anger. Oda even wrote that he was overflowing with anger. I'm afraid that that page just wasn't proof. Also, since you didn't notice, I was being rhetorical when I asked you to supply me with a page showing Doffy's fear because I knew such page didn't exist. Why do you think I made sure to include that you made sure it wasn't the page of Doffy being mad at Law, I knew that was the closest page you'd be able to find, but even that doesn't suffice.

If mentioning Kaido or the concept of Kaido killing him is enough to make Doffy feel fear and lose his composure to it, he wouldn't have been able to casually talk about it twice after this conversation.

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His face in middle right panel and The way he was talking with Law in that page clearly shows that he was worried and fears the point of Kaido getting angry. And It's not that I don't get your point. I understand where you are getting at but that logic can't be applied to this particular situation. Whenever it involves death,it's always that fear of death that makes you want to avoid it. I don't think people that doesn't fear death and still treasure their life would try to run away from death. Zoro for example: He has his won goals and treasures his own life since he can't achieve his goal without being alive.But he never displayed any signs of fear of death nor did he run away from death. Same goes for Luffy, Ace etc. I don't really know how I can explain this but you can't use that argument in case of Kaido.
That's not true. Zoro and Luffy have done things to avoid death, but don't fear it. Not fearing death means that when it's inevitable, you accept it, but when you can avoid it, you do that. That's why Luffy actively avoided getting struck by Mihawk. That's why Luffy tried to hide from Rob Lucci in his chibi form. That's why Zoro defended himself from Kaku's potentially fatal attacks. They did actions to prevent themselves from dying, but not out of fear of death, showing that is indeed possible for a character to actively avoid death for reasons other than fear. Doffy falls into this category.

As for this page, check above, I already showed where Doffy labelled this as rage, not fear.
 
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