[Discussion] Don Sai vs Sanji

[Bogard]

You just showed scans of them at a fair distance (mid-range)

1- The first scan was to show how the fishmen were closing the distance to attack Sanji
2- The second scan was to show how Sanji actually attack them

And when you look at his leg attacks, don't you see how they actually touch the targets? Or do you think Sanji has rubber legs now?

So now people are saying that Don Sai is on Zoros level or above :|.

You guys make my Don Sai vs Luffy thread not look like wank. But yet I was made to be an idiot.

By current feats, he is on Zoro level but by the end of the arc, i suspect Zoro could mid diff him, maybe even low depending on how things go

 

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It's medium in range. I wouldn't say it's long range but Sai could possibly attack him so I agree, and say that Sanji isn't completely safe. People are praising Sai too much, he defeated an old/ill Chinjao who was still fatigued from his fights with Luffy/Lao G.

 

[OG sama]

1- The first scan was to show how the fishmen were closing the distance to attack Sanji
2- The second scan was to show how Sanji actually attack them

And when you look at his leg attacks, don't you see how they actually touch the targets? Or do you think Sanji has rubber legs now?


By current feats, he is on Zoro level but by the end of the arc, i suspect Zoro could mid diff him, maybe even low depending on how things go

You must be one of the people who actually thought my thread made sense then.

Everybody else probably thought I was an idiot.

So who do you think is the strongest executive, not counting the top executives.

 

[Bogard]

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It's medium in range. I wouldn't say it's long range but Sai could possibly attack him so I agree, and say that Sanji isn't completely safe. People are praising Sai too much, he defeated an old/ill Chinjao who was still fatigued from his fights with Luffy/Lao G.

Hm i'm not sure. The range definitely seem bigger but i'm seeing many reflections of his legs on the page and i doubt he has a rubber body, unless it's how the technique works. Hard to tell. And no i'm not hyping Sai because of his "victory" over Chinjao not at all. I hype him because he could not only outmaneuver but destroy a far stronger version of Lao G than the one that could trouble Chinjao(even weakened)

You must be one of the people who actually thought my thread made sense then.

Everybody else probably thought I was an idiot.

So who do you think is the strongest executive, not counting the top executives.

It's Gladius. Lao G was impressive but Gladius was portrayed to be stronger than him when they made their entrance, plus he left the executives on the second level to defend the third level on his own and Viola basically said he was the leader of the underlings. All that leads me to believe he is the strongest of the executives(not counting the top ones of course)

 

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1- The first scan was to show how the fishmen were closing the distance to attack Sanji
2- The second scan was to show how Sanji actually attack them

And when you look at his leg attacks, don't you see how they actually touch the targets? Or do you think Sanji has rubber legs now?


By current feats, he is on Zoro level but by the end of the arc, i suspect Zoro could mid diff him, maybe even low depending on how things go

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It's medium in range. I wouldn't say it's long range but Sai could possibly attack him so I agree, and say that Sanji isn't completely safe. People are praising Sai too much, he defeated an old/ill Chinjao who was still fatigued from his fights with Luffy/Lao G.

 

[OG sama]

Hm i'm not sure. The range definitely seem bigger but i'm seeing many reflections of his legs on the page and i doubt he has a rubber body, unless it's how the technique works. Hard to tell. And no i'm not hyping Sai because of his "victory" over Chinjao not at all. I hype him because he could not only outmaneuver but destroy a far stronger version of Lao G than the one that could trouble Chinjao(even weakened)
It's Gladius. Lao G was impressive but Gladius was portrayed to be stronger than him when they made their entrance, plus he left the executives on the second level to defend the third level on his own and Viola basically said he was the leader of the underlings. All that leads me to believe he is the strongest of the executives(not counting the top ones of course)

I hope was hoping you said Gladius, I think I remember asking you before(dont take my word on it) and you might have said Lao G. And I remember there being a poll and I was like the only one who said Gladius. Lao G was just too weird for me to take seriously, that's why I knew Gladius was the strongest. He also gives me that vibe. I wonder whos the strongest Top executive? I can see it being between Vergo, Pica, or Trebol.

 

[Bogard]

I hope was hoping you said Gladius, I think I remember asking you before(dont take my word on it) and you might have said Lao G. And I remember there being a poll and I was like the only one who said Gladius. Lao G was just too weird for me to take seriously, that's why I knew Gladius was the strongest. He also gives me that vibe. I wonder whos the strongest Top executive? I can see it being between Vergo, Pica, or Trebol.

Possible. I used to think it was Lao G as well but i changed my mind after re-reading Dressrosa arc. For the top executives i believe they are all on the same level, but Pica gave me better impression portrayal-wise, so if i were to chose i'd chose him. While he was clearly out of his mind, i don't believe Oda left the statement that he could defeat an admiral for nothing(it was to give a certain vibe to readers that this guy is strong. He even dedicated full cover pages and hype chapters on Pica), and i believe he'd prove his worth soon enough, likely with the move Zoro is suspecting he's about to use(i think he will try to kill everyone on the current plateau and maybe Elizabello's king punch will save some). I favor Diamante over Trebol at the moment though but it can change

 

[OG sama]

Possible. I used to think it was Lao G as well but i changed my mind after re-reading Dressrosa arc. For the top executives i believe they are all on the same level, but Pica gave me better impression portrayal-wise, so if i were to chose i'd chose him. While he was clearly out of his mind, i don't believe Oda left the statement that he could defeat an admiral for nothing(it was to give a certain vibe to readers that this guy is strong. He even dedicated full cover pages and hype chapters on Pica), and i believe he'd prove his worth soon enough, likely with the move Zoro is suspecting he's about to use(i think he will try to kill everyone on the current plateau and maybe Elizabello's king punch will save some). I favor Diamante over Trebol at the moment though but it can change

Interesting, so do you think Pica could actually give an admiral high diff? If so, and Zoro defeats him, the Zoro fans are going to be going insane. I really want to know the gap between Doflamingo and his Top executives. Everyone is obviously going to hype Luffy, considering he kinda has no choice but to defeat Mingo his self. So at the end of the arc, those two giving an admiral high diff doesn't sound so bad.

 

[Bogard]

Interesting, so do you think Pica could actually give an admiral high diff? If so, and Zoro defeats him, the Zoro fans are going to be going insane. I really want to know the gap between Doflamingo and his Top executives. Everyone is obviously going to hype Luffy, considering he kinda has no choice but to defeat Mingo his self. So at the end of the arc, those two giving an admiral high diff doesn't sound so bad.

Nah i don't see even Doflamingo giving an admiral a high diff fight(i see an admiral defeating him after a mid difficulty fight), so let alone Pica. I just meant to say that Oda wanted readers to understand Pica's strength by that statement. I think the top executives can push Doflamingo to mid difficulty at the absolute least with Pica capable to push him to high difficulty

 

[OG sama]

Nah i don't see even Doflamingo giving an admiral a high diff fight(i see an admiral defeating him after a mid difficulty fight), so let alone Pica. I just meant to say that Oda wanted readers to understand Pica's strength by that statement. I think the top executives can push Doflamingo to mid difficulty at the absolute least with Pica capable to push him to high difficulty

Okay that makes more sense, considering how bad Picas power display has been against Zoro, would you consider Doflamingo stronger than all VAs and himself at a low Top tier level? Like many people think. I really don't know, but if he is then I guess Luffy would stomp any one of them at the end of this arc. But he is going after Yonko next.

 

[Bogard]

Okay that makes more sense, considering how bad Picas power display has been against Zoro, would you consider Doflamingo stronger than all VAs and himself at a low Top tier level? Like many people think. I really don't know, but if he is then I guess Luffy would stomp any one of them at the end of this arc. But he is going after Yonko next.

I do believe Doflamingo is stronger than all VAs(except Garp and Prime Tsuru maybe). It's not for nothing that Law said the marines will have to send their top fighters(admirals) to take care of him. It's because he is above the VAs level and he showed some glimpse of it when he was toying with 2 VA's during the summit between shichibukais and marines. So yeah if Luffy defeats him fair and square, it would mean to me he can defeat all vice-admirals and it shouldn't be that surprising when you know the next stage is against a yonkou, so being above vice-admirals is the least that we should expect from him

 

[OG sama]

I do believe Doflamingo is stronger than all VAs(except Garp and Prime Tsuru maybe). It's not for nothing that Law said the marines will have to send their top fighters(admirals) to take care of him. It's because he is above the VAs level and he showed some glimpse of it when he was toying with 2 VA's during the summit between shichibukais and marines. So yeah if Luffy defeats him fair and square, it would mean to me he can defeat all vice-admirals and it shouldn't be that surprising when you know the next stage is against a yonkou, so being above vice-admirals is the least that we should expect from him

Agreed, your really knowledgeable about OP, and we seem to have the same views.

Sadly, I guess VA fans won't be getting the decent showings of power from them that they wanted. Truth is, the next time we see them fighting, they will probably be fighting the weak trio members of the SHs. I also wonder how Coby and Smoker are going to keep up with the SNs incredible growth rate.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Sai is not vergo he can't do full body Haki atleast from what we've seen so what if his Haki is stronger he can only put it on certain parts of his body

Exp

Sai hardens his legs with black Haki tries to attack sanji

Sanji leaps up in the air start flying thus dodging sai attack

Then sanji at same time DJ. Sai in the face .... His face at the time wasn't protected by Haki

Sanji wins this mid high diff if all else fails I have hard time beliving sai can tank hells memories and still win the fight ...