Domu Gauntlet

[KidGamer65]

Except theres not one ounce of logic in his post. But I guess thats the logic you used.
Except no where did I say Domu tanks Chidori, I just made a statement that just because 1 has element advantage doesnt automatically beat it. But Ill blame myself for not wording it better. I compare Kakashi's Raikiri to part1 Sasuke Raikiri.

Kakashi's Raikiri was able to put his whole arm inside Kakuzu chest. I dont think Sasuke can go all the way. But at best go through half way inside the stomach. What I do believe can go through, from stomach to the back, is CS2 Chidori.

So the statement itself was a general statement, not specifically to Chidori.

And what other nonsense is in my post? When comparing to yours we disagree to like 2 things Lol? This kid

Sasuke rips through Kakuzu's body. What you are saying doesn't even make a shred of sense for the simple reason that Kakuzu's skin is the only thing reinforced. If he busts through that, which he can do easily, then going through his body front to back is no issue. Unless you think Domu is strong enough to absorb most of it's energy even though no feat supports it then...:lol

Depends. I believe Tsunade's physical strength is comparable to a Buijuu, which Domu tanked. At least 1 hit from Tsunade is safe.

Nonsense. Your idiotic logic is "Because they can both perform X feat, they are just as strong as each other". Even though Tsunade's feats that you decided to ignore shit on anything any Bijuu has ever done with it's punch. Or rather I should just say Matatabi in it's incomplete form. Kurama doesn't count either.

-Tsunade is on par with Sakura, who made a crater superior to that any Bijuu could ever make with their physical strikes.
-Tsunade can bust Susanoo, and no individual Bijuu can do that with their own physical attacks.

Then we have the whole energy per area nonsense you decided to ignore. Tsunade punches Domu and it shatters. Nothing to debate here.

Debatable. Mokuton density was capable of changing/moving the direction of the arrow. Domu is much more denser/harder. So Domu should take 1.

Then we this. Mokuton didn't cause the arrow to move. :lol The creation of the Mokuton shifted Danzo's position and left the tree in it's place. So Domu being more durable than that tree is irrelevant when Susanoo Arrow ripped through the tree with little resistance. Yasaka Magatama can pierce Gaara's Sand and crack Onoki's golem. Susanoo Arrow from a higher level Susanoo easily rips through Domu. So does Itachi's V3 Yasaka Magatama.

Then we have Domu tanking a chop from an Ay clad in Raiton Armor even though that same armor gives his fist penetrative capabilities when he uses it as a Karate Chop. So Kakuzu tanks a cutting type attack from Ay? :lol With EARTH STYLE? :lol Tell me more buddy. Tell me more.

And I almost forgot about C2. Since when did Kakuzu have the feats to survive C2?

 

[Curse Mark]

If you say "Tsunade can perform X, bijuus can also do the same thing"
You're comparing bijuus to tsunade and saying that bijuus have tsunade strength- not the other way around.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Sasuke rips through Kakuzu's body. What you are saying doesn't even make a shred of sense for the simple reason that Kakuzu's skin is the only thing reinforced. If he busts through that, which he can do easily, then going through his body front to back is no issue.[/B] Unless you think Domu is strong enough to absorb most of it's energy even though no feat supports it then...:lol

Proof to back up your statement. Until then, thats for you to prove, as your the one making the positive claim.

Nonsense. Your idiotic logic is "Because they can both perform X feat, they are just as strong as each other". Even though Tsunade's feats that you decided to ignore shit on anything any Bijuu has ever done with it's punch. Or rather I should just say Matatabi in it's incomplete form. Kurama doesn't count either.

-Tsunade is on par with Sakura, who made a crater superior to that any Bijuu could ever make with their physical strikes.
-Tsunade can bust Susanoo, and no individual Bijuu can do that with their own physical attacks.

Nope my logic is comparing the best feats, nothing more nothing less. But since you said Im ignoring feats that are better then please share them with me. And no stop making stuff up, theres no such thing as incomplete forms bull****.

- Prove that Tsunade is on par with Sakura? There shouldnt be any other arguments if you can prove it.
-Doesnt mean anything when one can argue FCD can smash ripcage.

Then we this. Mokuton didn't cause the arrow to move. :lol The creation of the Mokuton shifted Danzo's position and left the tree in it's place. So Domu being more durable than that tree is irrelevant when Susanoo Arrow ripped through the tree with little resistance. Yasaka Magatama can pierce Gaara's Sand and crack Onoki's golem. Susanoo Arrow from a higher level Susanoo easily rips through Domu. So does Itachi's V3 Yasaka Magatama.

I concede here since I read that scan wrong.

Then we have Domu tanking a chop from an Ay clad in Raiton Armor even though that same armor gives his fist penetrative capabilities when he uses it as a Karate Chop. So Kakuzu tanks a cutting type attack from Ay? :lol With EARTH STYLE? :lol Tell me more buddy. Tell me more.

Ok. Let me rephrase that: Survives.

And I almost forgot about C2. Since when did Kakuzu have the feats to survive C2?

Since Domu has superior feats then Sasuke's wings.

What makes you think C2 is superior then Joki?

If you say "Tsunade can perform X, bijuus can also do the same thing"
You're comparing bijuus to tsunade and saying that bijuus have tsunade strength- not the other way around.

The statement is backed up by what we witness the Buijuu's can do. So the comparsion is actually being compare by feats NOT because I said so.

 

[Curse Mark]

The statement is backed up by what we witness the Buijuu's can do. So the comparsion is actually being compare by feats NOT because I said so.

Is English your first language?

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Oh look another ad hom attack when theres nothing else to say.

 

[EZQ]

Broda numpsay

Your logic is like saying Ten Ten can kill an ant, and Goku can do that too. Same level.



Tho i disagree with KG at susano arrow, since against Kabuto in the cave we saw it couldn't fully pierce the rock that was behind Kabuto. And it couldn't pierce trough the samurai bridge which is pound by pound less durable than Domu.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Can we stop logic thats not even close to mine? For the last time I compare their best feats. And their best feats shows one being better then the other. Period. Stop using characters least best feat to make my logic look like yours

 

[Curse Mark]

Oh look another ad hom attack when theres nothing else to say.

Dude it was a question, calm down. I was genuinely curious.

 

[KidGamer65]

Proof to back up your statement. Until then, thats for you to prove, as your the one making the positive claim.

Lel what? I think you need to learn how to debate pal. You started off by claiming Sasuke can't rip through Kakuzu's body even though Domu doesn't have the feats to tank Chidori. So do me a favor and prove it. I don't need to disprove a claim that you can't actually prove. The fact you resorted to this idiotic logic tells me that you have no real argument.

Nope my logic is comparing the best feats, nothing more nothing less. But since you said Im ignoring feats that are better then please share them with me. And no stop making stuff up, theres no such thing as incomplete forms bull****.

:lol If you were comparing best feats you wouldn't be ignoring Tsunade smashing Susanoo or her being on par with Sakura nor would you be using ****ing LIFTING STRENGTH as a measure of STRIKING STRENGTH.

Lelelel what a fool. Unless you are going to tell me Matatabi is that small, you don't have a point here. Try again. Tanking a hit from an incomplete Bijuu is an irrelevant feat to bring up.

- Prove that Tsunade is on par with Sakura? There shouldnt be any other arguments if you can prove it.

Chapter 632, where Sakura uses her Yin Seal. Go look it up.

-Doesnt mean anything when one can argue FCD can smash ripcage.

FCD being able to smash ribcage or not is irrelevant to Domu tanking Tsunade's hits.

Basing it on the fact Tsunade best feats in physical strength jump/maneuver with Bunta's weapon, something Buijuu's can do also. And comparing it to the fact that Buijuu can level the ground by a swipe or tail whip.

And to think that this nonsense is the logic you are using to support your point. :lol Wtf? Lifting strength? To compare striking strengths of the Bijuu and Tsunade? :lol Not even sure if serious.

Since Domu has superior feats then Sasuke's wings.

Domu has one good feat, and that's tanking Choji's attack. C2>>Choji's attack. Sasuke wing can protect him from C2. It's clear which one is better.

What makes you think C2 is superior then Joki?

Joki Boy's feats are garbage. Gaara took a hit and survived.

 

[KidGamer65]

Broda numpsay

Your logic is like saying Ten Ten can kill an ant, and Goku can do that too. Same level.



Tho i disagree with KG at susano arrow, since against Kabuto in the cave we saw it couldn't fully pierce the rock that was behind Kabuto. And it couldn't pierce trough the samurai bridge which is pound by pound less durable than Domu.

That Susanoo Arrow was obviously smaller than the rest, not to mention the Arrow had to rip through Danzo's Mokuton and it still pierced into the bridge. It just didn't go through it completely. So the bridge's durability is irrelevant, especially since you have no idea how tough it is. :lol

YM isn't any stronger than Susanoo Arrow yet it can pierce two things stronger than Domu. Domu gets wrecked.

 

[Curse Mark]

Lol whatever kid. Dislike my post because I was curious if it was your first language or not.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Lmao it's like saying I can bench press 200 pounds and Mr Olympia can do the same, I'm as strong as he is. :lol

 

[ToshiZO]

No such thing as an incomplete two tails. The scale for the bijuu's is extremely inconsistent, that is not proof for it being incomplete.

 

[Curse Mark]

No such thing as an incomplete two tails. The scale for the bijuu's is extremely inconsistent, that is not proof for it being incomplete.

its one of those things that cant really be totally proven one way or the other

 

[Icelerate]

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Which of these attacks can Kakuzu tank/survive while wearing full body Domu?

-Base Naruto's Rasengan

Tanks.

-Pt. 1 Sasuke's Chidori

Breaches.

-Gentle Fist

Bypasses.

-Tsunade's punch
-Regular punch from V1 Ay
-Lateral chop from V1 Ay

Breakthrough.

-Water gun (Suigetsu)
-Weighted punch (Onoki)

Tanks.

-Joki Boy explosion

Breaches but Kakuzu doesn't get harmed.

-Yasaka magatama (Itachi)
-Slash from ribcage Susanoo's sword

Tanks these.

-Lava (Mei)
-Room full of acid mist (Mei)

Mei melts him.

-All of Sasori's iron sand concentrated into a single very large and pointy spear, flying at him at high speed

Pierces through.

-C2 (Deidara)

Breaks through but Kakuzu isn't harmed.

-Goemon (Jiraiya)

Kakuzu gets fried.

-Susanoo Arrow

Pierces through.

-Food Cart Destroyer
-Frog kata ghost punch (SM Naruto)
-Sand pyramid

Tanks.

-Bijuu Dama
-Jinton

Kakuzu seizes to exist.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Tanks these.

Why do you think Juuken and Chidori gets tank?

 

[Icelerate]

Why do you think Juuken and Chidori gets tank?

I don't, my post was incomplete.

What do you guys think about Asuma's fuuton knives, Kakashi's raikiri without elemental advantage, GSB without being able to absorb chakra, Okamaitachi no jutsu, non collaborative Wind cast net, collaborative wind cast net, part one KKM, Shippuden KKM and Danzo's strongest possible non baku enhanced fuuton?

 

[Beans2]

I don't, my post was incomplete.

What do you guys think about Asuma's fuuton knives,

Domu tanks.

Kakashi's raikiri without elemental advantage,

A good deal of Raikiri's piercing power can be attributed to the penetrative properties of lightning chakra, so there's no reason to believe that it would do anything to Domu.

GSB without being able to absorb chakra,

Doton>Suiton. Domu tanks.

Okamaitachi no jutsu,

This is the one Temari used at the kage summit? Her attack combined with laser circus + Gaara's and Kankuro's attacks didn't scratch V2 Susanoo. Assume her jutsu contributed 1/4th of that total power and I still don't see it even scratching ribcage Susanoo. Can't see any reason for Domu not to tank.

non collaborative Wind cast net, collaborative wind cast net,

Collaborative WCN left deep scratches in Edo Sandaime Raikage's body, so it would pierce through Domu. On the other hand, 1/3 of that power wouldn't be enough to do the same damage plus Edo bodies are generally weaker than regular bodies, so I think Doton: Domu would tank.

part one KKM, Shippuden KKM

It leveled a forest so yeah it should penetrate Domu.

and Danzo's strongest possible non baku enhanced fuuton?

Domu tanks a single one, multiple slicing fuutons eventually take it down.

 

[Icelerate]

Domu has one good feat, and that's tanking Choji's attack. C2>>Choji's attack. Sasuke wing can protect him from C2. It's clear which one is better.

But Sasuke's wing was vaporized in the process whereas Kakuzu took no damage from Matabi's hit or Chouji's attack. Put Sasuke against FRS and Sasuke would be put out of commission at the very least, much like non domu Kakuzu. Doton domu Kakuzu would have his defense breached but the attack would get softened up to allow him to barely function to some extent.
If we look at their hype, Kakuzu clearly has the greater durability hype and comparing hype is valid to an extent because they are from the same time period.

Now I'm not saying Kakuzu is on a different level of durability but they are probably on a similar level.

 

[KidGamer65]

But Sasuke's wing was vaporized in the process whereas Kakuzu took no damage from Matabi's hit or Chouji's attack. Put Sasuke against FRS and Sasuke would be put out of commission at the very least, much like non domu Kakuzu. Doton domu Kakuzu would have his defense breached but the attack would get softened up to allow him to barely function to some extent.
If we look at their hype, Kakuzu clearly has the greater durability hype and comparing hype is valid to an extent because they are from the same time period.

Now I'm not saying Kakuzu is on a different level of durability but they are probably on a similar level.

Neither of which are anywhere near the power of C2. So bringing that up is an irrelevant point. Comparing Kakuzu and Sasuke using FRS is also a bad point for the simple fact that Kakuzu didn't survive FRS because of his durability. FRS effortlessly ripped through his body. He only survived because of his anatomy, which is something Sasuke doesn't have on his side. Irrelevant towards durability.

So? There are offensive jutsu with better hype than certain jutsu that also reside in the same time period. Doesn't mean that said hype is a reason to argue something's superiority or comparability. Kabutowari is hyped to break any shield in a time where FRS, Bijuu Dama and all of Deidara's attacks have been showcased. Is Kabutowari near their level? No.