[Predictions] Doflomingo vs Sabo

[shon93]

Personally I'd say Doflamingo will beat the current Sabo. This is only because Sabo is still in need of practice with the Mera Mera no Mi and may not be able to utilize its powers to the fullest.

Loll thats bull bro Sabo didn't come to this island with the Mera Mera....his primary style is being an Elite Haki Martial Artist which trained to become the second in command...the Mera Mera is secondary and he showed effortlessly he could mesh it into his Martial art style by upgrading his pipe with fire

 

[Love Cook]

Loll thats bull bro Sabo didn't come to this island with the Mera Mera....his primary style is being an Elite Haki Martial Artist which trained to become the second in command...the Mera Mera is secondary and he showed effortlessly he could mesh it into his Martial art style by upgrading his pipe with fire

Why do you keep bringing up this second in command thing ? That holds no power whatsoever, it's not a level.

To put it blunt, if you're the second best in a group of losers, you're still a loser.

I'm not calling Sabo a loser, but Dragon's previous second in command was most likely either Kuma or Ivankov, and neither of them are a match for an admiral or doflamingo. So being the second in command of the RA, doesn't automatically put you between the top dogs. Ace and Jesus are 2nd division leaders of Yonkou, but that doesnt say anything about their strength.

 

[shon93]

Why do you keep bringing up this second in command thing ? That holds no power whatsoever, it's not a level.

To put it blunt, if you're the second best in a group of losers, you're still a loser.

I'm not calling Sabo a loser, but Dragon's previous second in command was most likely either Kuma or Ivankov, and neither of them are a match for an admiral or doflamingo. So being the second in command of the RA, doesn't automatically put you between the top dogs. Ace and Jesus are 2nd division leaders of Yonkou, but that doesnt say anything about their strength.

It sounds like there is a deeper root to this problem ...you might as well write on your forehead "I hate Monkey D Dragon and the RA"...so on any of there threads I will shit on them without any reasoning or logics whatsoever......

 

[Love Cook]

It sounds like there is a deeper root to this problem ...you might as well write on your forehead "I hate Monkey D Dragon and the RA"...so on any of there threads I will shit on them without any reasoning or logics whatsoever......

No, the root to this problem is people pulling arguments out of thin air and ruining characters like that. Aqueel (Ronaldo guy, hixa etc..) and a few others do it with Zoro. And you, Mr. Outside etc.. do it with Sabo. You're a small group of obsessed people who post a lot and ignore the opinion of the bigger part of the fanbase.

I dont hate Dragon or the RA, I don't hate Sabo, I don't hate Zoro. I hate people who suddenly pop up watched the anime in 2 weeks and caught up with the manga in 2 days and suddenly think that this is just another Shounen. Because my logic is structured and based on facts. Yours is based on hope and a gut feeling and because he is #2. So you should question yourself whose reasoning is faulty.

Besides every time I try to make a point, people try to attack me instead of my points. That proves enough that there isn't enough evidence to support your case so you try to bully your way out.

I also never said that Sabo couldn't be stronger than DD, I always said that up till now there is nothing to support that claim. Of next week he shows some new stuff, I might change my opinion, but you're already in chapter 800 where Sabo is able to easily (mid-diffing ugh) an admiral.

get real.

 

[Punk Hazard]

No, the root to this problem is people pulling arguments out of thin air and ruining characters like that. Aqueel (Ronaldo guy, hixa etc..) and a few others do it with Zoro. And you, Mr. Outside etc.. do it with Sabo. You're a small group of obsessed people who post a lot and ignore the opinion of the bigger part of the fanbase.

I dont hate Dragon or the RA, I don't hate Sabo, I don't hate Zoro. I hate people who suddenly pop up watched the anime in 2 weeks and caught up with the manga in 2 days and suddenly think that this is just another Shounen. Because my logic is structured and based on facts. Yours is based on hope and a gut feeling and because he is #2. So you should question yourself whose reasoning is faulty.

Besides every time I try to make a point, people try to attack me instead of my points. That proves enough that there isn't enough evidence to support your case so you try to bully your way out.

I also never said that Sabo couldn't be stronger than DD, I always said that up till now there is nothing to support that claim. Of next week he shows some new stuff, I might change my opinion, but you're already in chapter 800 where Sabo is able to easily (mid-diffing ugh) an admiral.

get real.

The issue here is that some fans are choosing to interpret something one way, and you're choosing to interpret them another. Based on context, the "wank" is right. Based on hypotheticals like "Fuji doesn't wanna go all out" or "It's just started", you're right. Both hold their merit. However, it's an issue because you refuse to admit the merit of the other half and simply want to put it down. The manga, right now, says Sabo is holding them back. This can keep on in future, or it can regress, but nevertheless, RIGHT NOW, he's holding them back. You can't deny that, so stop seeing people aren't justified when they think Sabo is Admiral level. They could be wrong, but they're justified.

 

[Sherlock.]

Sabo. He's a Haki beast + Logia. He's the second in command of the Revs. How weak do you think the Revs must be if their second in command can't take down even Doffy? And they are the people whose goal is to bring down the WG. So yeah he must be no he HAS to be very strong for their objectives to be accomplished.

 

[ToshiZO]

I find it hard to believe that DD>Sabo i find it illogical since Luffy is about to whoop DD's ass and that would indicate Luffy>Sabo which is a big no no.

I'll wait and see how this confrontation goes. For now im saying Sabo>DD.

lol thats a terrible reason. This wouldn't be the first time Luffy beats someone he has no business beating. Expect a lot of plot help if he does beat him 1v1.

 

[shon93]

No, the root to this problem is people pulling arguments out of thin air and ruining characters like that. Aqueel (Ronaldo guy, hixa etc..) and a few others do it with Zoro. And you, Mr. Outside etc.. do it with Sabo. You're a small group of obsessed people who post a lot and ignore the opinion of the bigger part of the fanbase.

I dont hate Dragon or the RA, I don't hate Sabo, I don't hate Zoro. I hate people who suddenly pop up watched the anime in 2 weeks and caught up with the manga in 2 days and suddenly think that this is just another Shounen. Because my logic is structured and based on facts. Yours is based on hope and a gut feeling and because he is #2. So you should question yourself whose reasoning is faulty.

Besides every time I try to make a point, people try to attack me instead of my points. That proves enough that there isn't enough evidence to support your case so you try to bully your way out.

I also never said that Sabo couldn't be stronger than DD, I always said that up till now there is nothing to support that claim. Of next week he shows some new stuff, I might change my opinion, but you're already in chapter 800 where Sabo is able to easily (mid-diffing ugh) an admiral.

get real.

Damn your really sensitive..chill bro...its only a manga...and your logic isn't structured in fact it is structured in preferance.

If you are going up against the Worlds Strongest Organization ...that consist of 4 admirals,Kong,5 elders and your second in command isn't admiral level you don't stand a chance whatsoever...and its a simple as that. Now I don't know what planet you live on but thats beautiful logics. Sabo had no problems toying around with everyone in the colisiem ..including the 1st div commander of the Blackbeard pirates and that was before he ate the DF......

Nobody saying he would mid diff an admiral your just over sensitive...all I'm saying is he is on par with the admirals. You act like Fugitora has done anything impressive other than bring down meteors which were cut like butter.

If Ben Beckman was doing what Sabo is doing I guarantee you your laptop would have exploded with all the fanboying...but because it Sabo and you no who the second in command of the RA is you try to downgrade him...

 

[Love Cook]

Damn your really sensitive..chill bro...its only a manga...and your logic isn't structured in fact it is structured in preferance.

If you are going up against the Worlds Strongest Organization ...that consist of 4 admirals,Kong,5 elders and your second in command isn't admiral level you don't stand a chance whatsoever...and its a simple as that. Now I don't know what planet you live on but thats beautiful logics. Sabo had no problems toying around with everyone in the colisiem ..including the 1st div commander of the Blackbeard pirates and that was before he ate the DF......

Nobody saying he would mid diff an admiral your just over sensitive...all I'm saying is he is on par with the admirals. You act like Fugitora has done anything impressive other than bring down meteors which were cut like butter.

If Ben Beckman was doing what Sabo is doing I guarantee you your laptop would have exploded with all the fanboying...but because it Sabo and you no who the second in command of the RA is you try to downgrade him...

The assumptions are so baked into your system that it's hopeless to keep discussing this with you.

* You know nothing about Kong or if he even is a fighter
* You know nothing about the Gorosei or if they even are fighters

It could very well be that the admirals are the last line of defense before the brass.

* You know nothing about me, or how I would react. In fact I just explained you that I don't have anything against the RA. So it doesn't matter if it's Sabo or Beckman who stops an admiral. They still need to back it up and rank isn't something that gives you power. Because you're also doing that for Burgess now, that means nothing. Its Sabo vs Burgess not #2 from the RA and #1 division leader from BB.

Only titles like Worlds strongest swordsman holds a value. So stop guaranteeing stuff which are obviously false, it's not helping your case. I liked your thread when you were reading One Piece, but now you're just trolling the section, and you don't understand the concept of powerscaling in One Piece.

Also devil fruits are not an instant power up, it's all about how you implement the benefits of the fruit into battle. A skilled fighter with a rock still beats an apprentice with a sword.

 

[Sherlock.]

The assumptions are so baked into your system that it's hopeless to keep discussing this with you.

* You know nothing about Kong or if he even is a fighter
* You know nothing about the Gorosei or if they even are fighters

It could very well be that the admirals are the last line of defense before the brass.

* You know nothing about me, or how I would react. In fact I just explained you that I don't have anything against the RA. So it doesn't matter if it's Sabo or Beckman who stops an admiral. They still need to back it up and rank isn't something that gives you power. Because you're also doing that for Burgess now, that means nothing. Its Sabo vs Burgess not #2 from the RA and #1 division leader from BB.

Only titles like Worlds strongest swordsman holds a value. So stop guaranteeing stuff which are obviously false, it's not helping your case. I liked your thread when you were reading One Piece, but now you're just trolling the section, and you don't understand the concept of powerscaling in One Piece.

Also devil fruits are not an instant power up, it's all about how you implement the benefits of the fruit into battle. A skilled fighter with a rock still beats an apprentice with a sword.

I get what you have been saying in this thread but think of it like this for a moment - Revs are a direct threat to the WG. They are the only ones who are directly challenging the WG's power and are trying to bring them down. If their second in command cannot even rival one of the three Admirals then why aren't they destroyed yet? Dragon is all that needs to be dealt with then. I'm pretty sure Dragon cannot easily defeat 2 or all 3 Admirals at once considering how strong each one is. Marines have four Admiral and above level people. Then why aren't Revs wiped off yet? Cause not just Dragon but his second in command is also a beast rivaling an Admiral's power. There's no hope for Revs with a weak second in command if he cannot even rival an Admiral.

 

[shon93]

The assumptions are so baked into your system that it's hopeless to keep discussing this with you.

* You know nothing about Kong or if he even is a fighter
* You know nothing about the Gorosei or if they even are fighters

It could very well be that the admirals are the last line of defense before the brass.

* You know nothing about me, or how I would react. In fact I just explained you that I don't have anything against the RA. So it doesn't matter if it's Sabo or Beckman who stops an admiral. They still need to back it up and rank isn't something that gives you power. Because you're also doing that for Burgess now, that means nothing. Its Sabo vs Burgess not #2 from the RA and #1 division leader from BB.

Only titles like Worlds strongest swordsman holds a value. So stop guaranteeing stuff which are obviously false, it's not helping your case. I liked your thread when you were reading One Piece, but now you're just trolling the section, and you don't understand the concept of powerscaling in One Piece.

Also devil fruits are not an instant power up, it's all about how you implement the benefits of the fruit into battle. A skilled fighter with a rock still beats an apprentice with a sword.

I feel nothing Sabo does will be justified with you so and there will always be excuses with you....I like how you selectively framed what I said about Kong and The Gorosei...it still doesn't change the fact that there are 4 admirals in the Marines...and if the second in command of an organization that opposes admirals is not admiral level they are screwed big time....considering there are 4 of the

I understand power scale very well and I read every chapter just like you so don't try to insult my intelligence just because I don't agree with you...*_*...I am not a troll an nor do I pretend to be I just haven't posted a thread in a long time....But regardless Sabo is admiral level whether you like it or not......

The admirals aren't the end all be all of OP and there are people who are on par with them in the verse ...

 

[Red Swag]

I feel nothing Sabo does will be justified with you so and there will always be excuses with you....I like how you selectively framed what I said about Kong and The Gorosei...it still doesn't change the fact that there are 4 admirals in the Marines...and if the second in command of an organization that opposes admirals is not admiral level they are screwed big time....considering there are 4 of the

I understand power scale very well and I read every chapter just like you so don't try to insult my intelligence just because I don't agree with you...*_*...I am not a troll an nor do I pretend to be I just haven't posted a thread in a long time....But regardless Sabo is admiral level whether you like it or not......

The admirals aren't the end all be all of OP and there are people who are on par with them in the verse ...

Hello shon, i think i saw you on youtube commenting. You even have the same lucky roo pic. Anyways, i agree that there are people who are as strong as the admirals or yonkos and no one knows about these mothafukas.

Just like fuji and greenbull. They got drafted as admirals and no one knew about these fuks. And they already are admiral lvls.

However, im still not convinced about sabo regarding this. If he can go toe to toe with fuji just like akain and kuzan then go, he is admiral lvl. But thats not gonna happen in this arc since it will take 10 days.

 

[shon93]

Hello shon, i think i saw you on youtube commenting. You even have the same lucky roo pic. Anyways, i agree that there are people who are as strong as the admirals or yonkos and no one knows about these mothafukas.

Just like fuji and greenbull. They got drafted as admirals and no one knew about these fuks. And they already are admiral lvls.

However, im still not convinced about sabo regarding this. If he can go toe to toe with fuji just like akain and kuzan then go, he is admiral lvl. But thats not gonna happen in this arc since it will take 10 days.

Yeah bro same person and a One Piece addict...loll I feel he can go toe to tow with them but its okay to think otherwise. But LoveCook tries to shut down that possibility anytime he gets and only views his argument as being possibly right....all I'm saying is if the Revolutionary Army is going to have any relevance in the story of OP...there 2nd in command needs to be on par with the admirals considering there goal directing conflicts with 4 admirals....and I don't feel thats poor logics on my side bro

 

[Red Swag]

Yeah bro same person and a One Piece addict...loll I feel he can go toe to tow with them but its okay to think otherwise. But LoveCook tries to shut down that possibility anytime he gets and only views his argument as being possibly right....all I'm saying is if the Revolutionary Army is going to have any relevance in the story of OP...there 2nd in command needs to be on par with the admirals considering there goal directing conflicts with 4 admirals....and I don't feel thats poor logics on my side bro

I feel you. Tbh hes one of the people i dont like in this forum hehehe

 

[shon93]

I feel you. Tbh hes one of the people i dont like in this forum hehehe

Loll is he like this on all threads or just Sabo threads because its annoying...if you read all the comments from page 1 people are saying the same thing...and he seems to be a one man army...just bashin peoples opinions

 

[Red Swag]

Loll is he like this on all threads or just Sabo threads because its annoying...if you read all the comments from page 1 people are saying the same thing...and he seems to be a one man army...

Well idk. Dont really care tho. As long as zoro>friendzoned chef then it's all good.

 

[Gintõki1]

Sabo shoots the pink bird.

 

[giostep]

HAve not seen enough of Doffy or Sabo to come to a reasonable conclusion, but if i 100% had to id say sabo.

 

[Love Cook]

I get what you have been saying in this thread but think of it like this for a moment - Revs are a direct threat to the WG. They are the only ones who are directly challenging the WG's power and are trying to bring them down. If their second in command cannot even rival one of the three Admirals then why aren't they destroyed yet? Dragon is all that needs to be dealt with then. I'm pretty sure Dragon cannot easily defeat 2 or all 3 Admirals at once considering how strong each one is. Marines have four Admiral and above level people. Then why aren't Revs wiped off yet? Cause not just Dragon but his second in command is also a beast rivaling an Admiral's power. There's no hope for Revs with a weak second in command if he cannot even rival an Admiral.

I feel nothing Sabo does will be justified with you so and there will always be excuses with you....I like how you selectively framed what I said about Kong and The Gorosei...it still doesn't change the fact that there are 4 admirals in the Marines...and if the second in command of an organization that opposes admirals is not admiral level they are screwed big time....considering there are 4 of the

I understand power scale very well and I read every chapter just like you so don't try to insult my intelligence just because I don't agree with you...*_*...I am not a troll an nor do I pretend to be I just haven't posted a thread in a long time....But regardless Sabo is admiral level whether you like it or not......

The admirals aren't the end all be all of OP and there are people who are on par with them in the verse ...

You're saying that nothing Sabo does will be justified by me, but that's the opposite of what I'm telling you. Because what HAS Sabo done up till now. He showed good haki, probably Luffy's level or higher. He smashed (haki infused) gear an elbow pad and a sword. He broke through the weakened arena floor. Those are literally all his feats so there is nothing to justify at this point. Everything else falls in the category of assumption and speculation. You are allowed to have your opinion, but don't act all high and mighty if I have a different opinion that I support with facts. That's why DD and admirals have more credit than Sabo at this point.

@Shóūri you say: " I'm pretty sure Dragon cannot easily defeat 2 or all 3 Admirals at once considering how strong each one is. Marines have four Admiral and above level people. Then why aren't Revs wiped off yet?"

But you could also say, if even the number two of the revs is at admiral level, why isn't the navy destroyed yet. Because he and Dragon would already be enough for two admirals.

Look at the war of the best, it was literally called war of the best. And 2/3 admirals were basically untouched and Akainu had a headache. Whitebeard, Marco, Jozu, Ace and Vista. That's #2-4 of a yonkou crew and the worlds strongest man and a whole fleet of New world pirates who weren't able to hurt an admiral.

They had years of experience as pirates and some of the best devil fruits in their possession. But now suddenly Sabo, a new kid on the block, who picked up a fruit 5 minutes ago is already up there with the big shots. And there is nothing to back that up yet besides your gut feeling because you think it should be that way. Just wait and see.

It's the same with every newly introduced character, just wait and let Oda give us his opinion because that's all that counts. However I don't think it will come to a serious clash between Sabo and Fujitora, so it might take years before we can answer this question.

 

[ultraChalk]

Sabo.

Mingos power is string which he uses to control people. Can Sabo not just burn that string?