[VS] Doflamingo vs Kidd Alliance
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Uh, no. Luffy defeated Doffy with the help of Law and dozens of people. Doffy wins extreme diff.
LOL Doffy does not extreme diff for shit. The Kidd alliance is winning this 100%. Assuming youre talking about just Kidd Apoo and Hawkins...this is the equivalent of a full power Luffy, Law, Zoro. No way in hell Doflamingo even has a chance here.
Will probably but possible if he stalls enough time for luffy's haki to end.
Well that is debatable , but things i am sure of is that healthy doffy is stronger than healthy luffy or healthy law in a 1 on 1 ...
He can take them on one after the other tho .. Like if he has a 1 vs 1 against luffy after he wins he can challenge law and win.
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Equivalent doesn't mean equal. The only equivalency any of us can say for sure is equivalent in role. When it comes to power, we have no idea how strong they are and to say they could accomplish the same as Luffy, Law, and Zoro is completely baseless.
The alliance obviously wins, you can't seriously be stupid enough to think the Kidd alliance, which is going after a Yonko, is going to lose to freaking Doflamingo. Even if they can't beat a Yonko right now, if they can't even at least beat Doflamingo with 3 capable SNs, beating a Yonko should not even be an option in their minds.
I have no reason to believe Kidd alone is much weaker than Luffy, if at all. He could be stronger and no one could prove the contrary, he hasn't been portrayed as being weaker pre skip, I see no reason for that to be different now. Add Hawkins and Apoo, two Hax and capable SNs and this is a 100% win.
I have no reason to believe Kidd alone is much weaker than Luffy, if at all. He could be stronger and no one could prove the contrary, he hasn't been portrayed as being weaker pre skip, I see no reason for that to be different now. Add Hawkins and Apoo, two Hax and capable SNs and this is a 100% win.
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Doflamingo still wins. Basil will read it on the cards that he'll lose. Doffy has royal kings haki and devil fruit awakening he would beat them . And don't insult me ever again
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I'm thinking the same thing here too.
Doflamingo isn't going to survive against such alliance like that. Kidd isn't going to save the dwarves and he'll throw down with Doflamingo right there and then in the city. I mean even Luffy had some restrain when he first encountered Doflamingo.
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How is the alliance getting out of parasite which seemingly required an enormous boost in physical strength to break free off... Something which Kid or Appoo most likely won't have and their DF's don't supply them.
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Doflamingo did not use parasite on Law... Plot induced 'stupidity' does not count
Facts are that Luffy (whoms fighting style is based around having massive physical strength) needed G4 to release himself from the technique. I don't see why other Supernova like Kid or Appoo who have OP Devil Fruit's and are very probably lacking in the base stats (like Law) can hope to do anything when they are under parasite..
Apoo's sound based techniques can probably tore the threads of. Kid's magnetism can maybe destabilize it. There is always a way for Oda to make it irrelevant. Oda never made parasite relevant in high level fights where the opponent isn't distracted, so that must mean that he views it as an irrelevant technique that could be countered one way or another by a certain level of opponents. He'd only make it work against weak level opponents
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Why would appo and killer be stronger then law by a margin ?
It's already been shown how law luffy and Kidd r gonna b similar to white beard Rodger and Shiki
Not to mention law has way more relevance in the story then those 2... And not to mention he is a D
Lastly his fruit suggests heavily that he will save luffys life at the cost of his own later towards the end so again why is either Hawkins or appo or even kid for the matter stronger the. Law by a margin ?
Back on topic doffy def wins none of these guys can fight him in the air ... While Kidd may have power similar to luffys gear 3rd (talking bout his metal fist) and potentially a powerup he doesn't seem to be a speedster like luffy which is needed to beat doffy so I don't know if he can even keep up with doffy speed
I don't c how Hawkins or appo having enough speed to dodge overheat if they r stringed up like Sanji cuz I personally think zoro if not stronger is as strong as these 2 and Sanji (despite what ppl believe) is not that far from zoro not by any noticeable margin... So parasite should work well on them cuz neither of these 2 have shown any type willpower feats etc or what ever the hell gear 4th was
Now appo def dies there but Hawkins will survive if Kidd and Hawkins win it will have to be out of suprise of Hawkins fruit
But I don't c any of them getting past the sky demons awakening haki that clone (cuz bird cage won't be active) and overheat
Not to mention doffy is durable as **** only second to in the series by white beard kaido and akainu (potentially)
His speed battle prowess etc
I think doffy takes it high diff
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It worked against Sanji. And I rank Sanji and Apoo around the same strength. How is Apoo even playing his fluit when he can't move his arms an inch? It worked against base Luffy and by no means is he weak..as far as raw power goes he most likely is above Apoo , Kid and Killer, even in base and seemingly the 1 thing that is needed to overpower parasite is raw strength, OP DF's have no use if u can't utilize them. The alliance is just unlucky in this situation.
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Dęvîa Puęrî
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U act as if the entire country didn't help luffy out when he was gassed out after 1st gear 4th ... Plot armor ...now please tel me what would have happened had doffy killed off luffy then how would the straw hats fare?
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It was 20-40 minutes of 2 gear 4ths (I forget what actual time was)
Gamma knife
Kong gun
And King Kong gun all damage after damage stacked etc
Luffy legit had a break (I won't specifically say he got healed due to the little fairies tears but I know law did etc)
Whereas doffy had continue fighting all the whole wAy
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Can we talk about how parasite worked on Jozu as well as many vice admirals so why can it not work on Hawkins and appo ? Aside from luffy (which still hasn't been explained yet) breaking out of it no one has really done so why would they (unless ur thinking that they r on the level of what ever gear 4th is or even remotely close to Jozu)
Also that clone doffy has was able to fight evenly for a while against luffy (gear 2nd btw so it was fast) why can it not fight for a certain amount of time while doffy parasites appo and Hawkins and treat them like Sanji (without law jumping in of course)
Yes I know Hawkins is a supernova as well as appo but nothing suggests that they r over the likes of zoro (and by that logic) shouldn't be too far from Sanji
Not to mention neither of these characters should have the full strength of a blood listed partial diamond Jozu in mid attack .. Yet was stopped by parasite so idk why wouldn't at least one of these captains wouldn't get bisected ... Off the bat ...
While Kidd is dealing with a clone doffy can easily parasite someone ...
Also that clone doffy has was able to fight evenly for a while against luffy (gear 2nd btw so it was fast) why can it not fight for a certain amount of time while doffy parasites appo and Hawkins and treat them like Sanji (without law jumping in of course)
Yes I know Hawkins is a supernova as well as appo but nothing suggests that they r over the likes of zoro (and by that logic) shouldn't be too far from Sanji
Not to mention neither of these characters should have the full strength of a blood listed partial diamond Jozu in mid attack .. Yet was stopped by parasite so idk why wouldn't at least one of these captains wouldn't get bisected ... Off the bat ...
While Kidd is dealing with a clone doffy can easily parasite someone ...