[VS] Doffy Vs M3 (certain conditions)

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Doffy is full health as are the main 3 only feats can be used not hype


Starting distance 70 meters

Restrictions: luffy is not allowed to use gear 4 and doffy is not allowed to awaken or birdcage

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Scenario 2: nothing is restricted and doffy adds law to his squad

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Scenario 3: for those who prob thing the main 3 would stomp the smile duo vergo is added to mix

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Who would win and why explain?

 

[A v i]

S1: M3 wins mid-high dif.

S2: Law & Joker high dif.

S3: Team Joker

 

[Punk Hazard]

Doffy wins every scenario.

In scenario one, Doffy controls Sanji and Zoro, making them fight either each other or Luffy. Either way, Luffy becomes distracted and Doffy lops off his head. Or he controls all three and Overheats them all to pieces.

In scenario 2, Law switches their personalities. Luffy in Zoro, Sanji in Luffy and Zoro in Sanji. Completely unable to use each other's abilities efficiently aside from Haki, Doffy handily stomps.

Scenario 3 isn't really needed.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

This is slightly new....

Scenario 1: Doffy wins without getting a scratch. Marionette distracts Luffy while Doffy controls Zoro and/or Sanji and overheats him/them.

Scenario 2: Doffy and Law win med difficulty at most. G4 is a last resort and it cant stop Doffy quick enough and Law can chop up Law and Zoro all he wants or at least take away Zoro's swords.

Scenario 3: Doffy, Law and Vergo wins low difficulty

 

[GT Is Not Canon]

#1 Doffy highdiff, tanked red hawk, tanks second gear, dodges third, haki comparable to zoro swords on basis of he couldn't cut birdcage, sanji fallen behind the big 2 don't think he would help much doffy could cut him up quickly CoA is sanji's weakest vergo broke his leg.

#2 Doffy la high diff, Luffy 4th gear needed 2 attempts (10 min reboot time) to take out doffy, with no restrictions, birdcage and awakening with law shambling about, team doffy wins

#3 Doffy wins see above

 

[Hexuze]

Personally, Doflamingo wins in all scenarios. He even said that Luffy's attacks made him laugh prior to gear 4th. Luffy needed Law's Gamma knife and gear 4th to take down Doflamingo and that's obviously being taken away for this scenario so there's not much of a chance that they will win. We already know the outcome of Doffy vs Sanji, a similar outcome will occur with Zoro as well. The other scenarios are pretty self explanatory why Doffy wins.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Cool I was thinking same thing it's just that a lot of ppl on this base seems to think luffy is on doffy level just because he used a mode twice to defeat him (one doffy being injured from law, and 2 people carrying him to Saftey after the first gear 4th ran out...) lol


I still think luffy is far from doffy

If doffy regular is an 80 on scale (around 82-86 with awakening)

Luffy on average (g2/3 included) is around a 45

Gear 4th pushes him to 50-65 I believe but that's just my opinion lol (reason 50 through 65 because the tech similar to might gai 8 gates seems to be unreliable against top tiers doffy isn't even a top tier yet luffy when he ran out of gas first go round he was at the mercy of doffy even with gamma knife and gear 4 attacks doffy had no problem walking after it )

And just in general I think the worst generation (I could be wrong about thIs) ppl r perceiving it wrong it seems that they could b the weakest generation of pirates sure they have cool abilities but they need alliances at this point to survive in new world... Against top tiers an alliance would be crushed doffy who isn't a top tier (at best yonko first mate) almost destroyed law and luffy alliance I mean the guy fodderized smoker and Sanji and beat luffy and law separate and together all in one day before he lost...

The only person he didn't fight was zoro who would've still gotten merked but oda I'm pretty sure is gay for zoro in a similar manner to Kishi being gay for itachi in naruto

 

[Bogard]

Allow birdcage since i don't see how it matters. Even awakening to be honest. Restrict parasite because we don't know if it's possible to counter it other than size volume deformation of g4 like Luffy did and since we don't know, nothing stops Doffy in controlling those 3. If you restrict it though, M3 will win. I think Luffy and Zoro would even be enough

S2 is more tricky especially if they lack knowledge, but Luffy should have full knowledge on Law at this point and share the info on the rest. I consider Zoro on Law level(but giving a slight edge to Law at the moment), and i'm not sure if Luffy and Sanji would be enough to defeat Doffy based on what we've seen. I'd go with either way

S3 Doffy family definitely takes this

In a no restriction scenario, replace Sanji with Law and give Vergo to Doffy and i see the Supernova trio winning

Cool I was thinking same thing it's just that a lot of ppl on this base seems to think luffy is on doffy level just because he used a mode twice to defeat him (one doffy being injured from law, and 2 people carrying him to Saftey after the first gear 4th ran out...) lol


I still think luffy is far from doffy

If doffy regular is an 80 on scale (around 82-86 with awakening)

Luffy on average (g2/3 included) is around a 45

Gear 4th pushes him to 50-65 I believe but that's just my opinion lol (reason 50 through 65 because the tech similar to might gai 8 gates seems to be unreliable against top tiers doffy isn't even a top tier yet luffy when he ran out of gas first go round he was at the mercy of doffy even with gamma knife and gear 4 attacks doffy had no problem walking after it )

And just in general I think the worst generation (I could be wrong about thIs) ppl r perceiving it wrong it seems that they could b the weakest generation of pirates sure they have cool abilities but they need alliances at this point to survive in new world... Against top tiers an alliance would be crushed doffy who isn't a top tier (at best yonko first mate) almost destroyed law and luffy alliance I mean the guy fodderized smoker and Sanji and beat luffy and law separate and together all in one day before he lost...

The only person he didn't fight was zoro who would've still gotten merked but oda I'm pretty sure is gay for zoro in a similar manner to Kishi being gay for itachi in naruto

Everything is horrible in this post especially the Doffy wank. G4 Luffy is stronger than Doffy, plain and simple. If you really wanted to see what people thought about Luffy vs Doffy, you should have included G4 and non-restricted birdcage(that doesn't matter to me) or awakening

Not even gonna bother with the rest

 

[Apêx1]

Lol that s3 is pretty hilarious..

 

[Relostar Devil]

Doffy neglects in every situation

 

[YellowFang]

Doing this in a death match style...

S1:
Doffy wins high diff.
With his awakened DF and cloning, he has better edge against them. Full powered Doffy can mid diff. Zoro and Sanji at max. and his clone could stalemate with Luffy until he goes G4, then both Doffys come into action finally ending the match...

S2:
Doffy and Law wins mid diff.
Doffy > Luffy
Law >= Zoro
Doffy (clone) > Sanji

S3:
Doffy and co. low-mid diff.
Doffy > Luffy
Law >= Zoro
Vergo > Sanji

 

[sravan]

doffy in all 3 scenarios plain & simple

 

[Ridoku X]

Team Doflamingo wins all scenarios IMO. 1st scenario it's a high-extreme diff, 2nd one is mid diff and last one is overkill v_v

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Allow birdcage since i don't see how it matters. Even awakening to be honest. Restrict parasite because we don't know if it's possible to counter it other than size volume deformation of g4 like Luffy did and since we don't know, nothing stops Doffy in controlling those 3. If you restrict it though, M3 will win. I think Luffy and Zoro would even be enough

S2 is more tricky especially if they lack knowledge, but Luffy should have full knowledge on Law at this point and share the info on the rest. I consider Zoro on Law level(but giving a slight edge to Law at the moment), and i'm not sure if Luffy and Sanji would be enough to defeat Doffy based on what we've seen. I'd go with either way

S3 Doffy family definitely takes this

In a no restriction scenario, replace Sanji with Law and give Vergo to Doffy and i see the Supernova trio winning
Everything is horrible in this post especially the Doffy wank. G4 Luffy is stronger than Doffy, plain and simple. If you really wanted to see what people thought about Luffy vs Doffy, you should have included G4 and non-restricted birdcage(that doesn't matter to me) or awakening

Not even gonna bother with the rest

How does bird cage not matter what if doffy puts it around the trio while he stays outside of it?

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Allow birdcage since i don't see how it matters. Even awakening to be honest. Restrict parasite because we don't know if it's possible to counter it other than size volume deformation of g4 like Luffy did and since we don't know, nothing stops Doffy in controlling those 3. If you restrict it though, M3 will win. I think Luffy and Zoro would even be enough

S2 is more tricky especially if they lack knowledge, but Luffy should have full knowledge on Law at this point and share the info on the rest. I consider Zoro on Law level(but giving a slight edge to Law at the moment), and i'm not sure if Luffy and Sanji would be enough to defeat Doffy based on what we've seen. I'd go with either way

S3 Doffy family definitely takes this

In a no restriction scenario, replace Sanji with Law and give Vergo to Doffy and i see the Supernova trio winning
Everything is horrible in this post especially the Doffy wank. G4 Luffy is stronger than Doffy, plain and simple. If you really wanted to see what people thought about Luffy vs Doffy, you should have included G4 and non-restricted birdcage(that doesn't matter to me) or awakening

Not even gonna bother with the rest

Also I don't c how gear 4 is indefinitely stronger then doffy all I really seen was that he was way faster then doffy he could not react to it well..(when he did it switched directions). So all doffy decided to do was tank every blow which he did no problem ... While luffy on other hand was gassed out... Ppl act as if doffy didn't tank 2 g4s and a gamma knife before those gear 4ths


As for the named attacks yes they got through doffy defense to where he couldn't tank them (he could obviously not tank King Kong gun or what ever its called) but the mode as a whole did damage to doffy but he was able to tank it pretty well despite having his organs fall apart (PPl r delusional if they think gear 4 was not hitting his stomach where majority of his organs r placed..)

Listen all I'm saying is that it took 2 gear 4ths to take him out and even before that he had a gamma knife on him.... So that also did play a part

Fine doffy could barely react to gear 4th so he couldn't do anything about the modes speed but even in his weaken state his durability was able to tank it no prob until that mode (it will get stronger as luffy gets stronger obviously) gets more time on it (time limit) and as luffy gets stronger with will b no doubt stronger then doffy but right now I just don't see it but combined with 2 gear 4ths ( I believe they r 10 or 20 min each I forget) and gamma knife, and kong gun mixed with King Kong gun gave luffy the win to say the mode is outright stronger then someone (when they was able to tank every attack while having organs ripped out bar King Kong gun) doesn't make sense just because person is faster in scenario doesn't make them stronger I'm pretty sure kizaru is faster than akainu hell he may even had hard time reacting to him but akainu durability will def help him in that fight (along with his devil fruit and haki etc, which doffy used to help him survive first gear 4th etc.)

 

[Apêx1]

Did you just say Doffy "tanked all of G4's attacks no problem"?

 

[ssjelf]

Doffy wins all. You restricted the m3 too hard. I mean at this point zoro is pretty much 50% hype and so is sanji and luffy without G4 can't do anything to doffy either. S2 goes low mid diff, s3 no diff.

If you restrict parasite it would be a lot more fair. I would say s1 goes either way extreme diff with that change. S2 mid diff to Duffy s3 low mid diff.

Edit: my bad misread s2 and s3, with your restrictions doffy wins first high diff, s2 goes to m3 extreme diff, s3 mid high to doffy.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Did you just say Doffy "tanked all of G4's attacks no problem"?

All unamed attacks yes

He got up afterwards (I'm not saying it didn't do damage I'm saying he was able to tank them)


The named attacks which did most damage he tanked first one pretty well despite gamma knife

And the second he did not tank as he was knocked out after wards (King Kong gun)

 

[-Akuma-]

Just peeped no G4 for Luffy, current standings Doflamingo wins every scenario. The last scenario is a really bad stomp in Doflamingo's team favour.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Just peeped no G4 for Luffy, current standings Doflamingo wins every scenario. The last scenario is a really bad stomp in Doflamingo's team favour.

No gear 4th is only for round one the rest of the rounds he can use it. because it's 3 against 1 and I believe I heard a lot of ppl claiming how these three (before gear 4th was introduced) could give a admiral problems lol.. I laugh at those but doffy who's clearly not admiral (more like yonko first mate) I wanted to c how much they fair against him.

Also I believe Sanji and zoro together should be at the very least a little above law (I think they are stronger by margin it should b mid to semi high diff cuz Sanji can blitz while zoro packs punch).. So add that with gear 4 luffy would auto win (because zoro and Sanji should equivalent and then some to law)