[Discussion] Dofflamingo's weakness

[ultraChalk]

I doubt it works that way. If Ace sets fire to a building, does he have to use up reserves to maintain the fire? If Magellan covers someone with poison, does he have to use up reserves to maintain the poison on their body? If Mr. 3 creates a lance made of wax, does he have to use up reserves to maintain the wax?

Those abilities are very different.
Poison and wax are more or less liquid, and fire is a spreading element. Not to mention they don't have the same added solid element added to them, that Mingo uses for his strings. If they were ordinary strings that he just spawned and left I would get it... but those things are solid and sharp, slicing anything that they touch. I have no doubt that they require strength to enforce, and his focus to maintain it's shape.

Same goes with his clones. If it works like you say they do and he just made them and they never interfered with his reserves, he could just make a army of Mingo clones to patrol the castle so nobody gets in. But instead, he only uses 1 at a time, until that one is defeated.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Those abilities are very different.
Poison and wax are more or less liquid, and fire is a spreading element. Not to mention they don't have the same added solid element added to them, that Mingo uses for his strings. If they were ordinary strings that he just spawned and left I would get it... but those things are solid and sharp, slicing anything that they touch. I have no doubt that they require strength to enforce, and his focus to maintain it's shape.

Same goes with his clones. If it works like you say they do and he just made them and they never interfered with his reserves, he could just make a army of Mingo clones to patrol the castle so nobody gets in. But instead, he only uses 1 at a time, until that one is defeated.

Different abilities but they all follow the same concept: Something is created and remains intact when released from the body. The fact that they are different states of matter from strings doesn't matter, as fire, Magellan's poison and Mr. 3's wax are all different states of matter; fire a burning gas, poison a liquid and wax a malleable solid, and yet they all still maintain this common principle between them: The user does not have to maintain their form, they maintain themselves. Doflamingo's strings fall into the same category: Something that is created and remains intact once separated from the user. So why does Doffy's strings need to be manually maintained, and the other abilities in its immediate category don't? Just to convenience your argument? I'm not buying it.

It has never been stated or alluded to that Doflamingo needs to manually maintain his formations or that for as long as the formations exist, they take from his stamina. Until that's explicitly stated in the manga, it's fabrication.

 

[ultraChalk]

Different abilities but they all follow the same concept: Something is created and remains intact when released from the body. The fact that they are different states of matter from strings doesn't matter, as fire, Magellan's poison and Mr. 3's wax are all different states of matter; fire a burning gas, poison a liquid and wax a malleable solid, and yet they all still maintain this common principle between them: The user does not have to maintain their form, they maintain themselves. Doflamingo's strings fall into the same category: Something that is created and remains intact once separated from the user. So why does Doffy's strings need to be manually maintained, and the other abilities in its immediate category don't? Just to convenience your argument? I'm not buying it.

It has never been stated or alluded to that Doflamingo needs to manually maintain his formations or that for as long as the formations exist, they take from his stamina. Until that's explicitly stated in the manga, it's fabrication.

The state of the strings does matter. By default Mingos strings are wobbly and loose, which is how he is able to swing from the sky. But the composition they have to stay solid is what takes up reserves, because that's now how they are by default.

And the wax and poison are basically the same state.

But if you're going to shut yourself off to any other possibility until it's stated in the manga, guess we're gonna have to agree to disagree.

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

His weakness is Kaido Sama

 

[Punk Hazard]

The state of the strings does matter. By default Mingos strings are wobbly and loose, which is how he is able to swing from the sky. But the composition they have to stay solid is what takes up reserves, because that's now how they are by default.

And the wax and poison are basically the same state.

But if you're going to shut yourself off to any other possibility until it's stated in the manga, guess we're gonna have to agree to disagree.

Nope, the strings are already a solid. They can be firm by intertwining millions of them until they're as dense as support cables. Not only that, but Doffy said he was surprised the Sky Path was cut off, meaning it's in the sky 24/7. If Doffy had to use his reserves to maintain his strings, he'd be always drained by Sky Path.

It's not that it's not possible, but that until it is alluded to or stated in the canon story, it cannot be used in a debate. That is fundamental, otherwise I could say something like "Usopp knocks out Sengoku because Sengoku has a crippling fear of slingshots." That is no more supported than Doflamingo needing to maintain Bird Cage manually, but I'm sure you'd laugh at whoever would say that.

 

[shri3kbat]

His weakness is.. Inazuma!!

 

[ultraChalk]

Nope, the strings are already a solid. They can be firm by intertwining millions of them until they're as dense as support cables. Not only that, but Doffy said he was surprised the Sky Path was cut off, meaning it's in the sky 24/7. If Doffy had to use his reserves to maintain his strings, he'd be always drained by Sky Path.

It's not that it's not possible, but that until it is alluded to or stated in the canon story, it cannot be used in a debate. That is fundamental, otherwise I could say something like "Usopp knocks out Sengoku because Sengoku has a crippling fear of slingshots." That is no more supported than Doflamingo needing to maintain Bird Cage manually, but I'm sure you'd laugh at whoever would say that.

1. Like I said, he doesn't use reserves for the regular wobbly string with no compisition. The string that he uses to sky surf is not solid. Otherwise he would be swinging like Spiderman, with his hand above his head. But instead, we clearly see how he swings sometime with his hand under him, below his stomach. If they were solid they would be piercing through his stomach in that position.

And I can't support it yet because Mingo is still playing with them. We'll have to see when he gets serious if it's really draining him or not.

 

[Tomato God]

Bullets in his brain.
Cause ya know.
Death.

 

[Kiiszame]

I don't think luffy has ever killed a villain?
I think the honors will go to Kaido.

 

[Punk Hazard]

And I can't support it.

I thought so.