Does this mean Hashirama>pre-jin So6p

[Naijakid]

According to some fanboys:
Madara=Pre-jin So6p,
but in the last chapter we saw clearly that Hashirama owned Edo Madara.....
So this means Hashirama>pre-jin so6p right??

70% Hashirama>Edo Madara (beyond his prime) lel














DAT Hashirama

 

[Sir Blades]

Hashirama is a freak of nature.

 

[KCMNaruto]

You are fool to thinking like that.

Edo Madara is not = Pre Juubi Jin SOSP

Currently Revived Madara may be equal Pre Juubi Jin SOSP.

But it all depends on Madara's mastery over Rinnegan and also if he got Sage mode or no.

for me SM Revived Rinnegan Madara= Pre Juubi Jin Sage of six paths

Sage of six paths most likely had Sage mode before he became Juubi Jin due to these reasons:

1) Juubi's weakness is Senjutsu
2) Kabuto compared himself to SOSP while using his Sennin mode...:

Spoiler

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3) Part of Sage of six paths title suggest that he has known Senjutsu for sure.
4) Great Sage Toad which is very old has similliar fortune telling powers as Sage of six paths had.

Juubi jin Sage of six paths > Pre Juubi Jin Sage of six paths = Juubi Jin Obito > SM Hashirama > Edo Madara

DEAL WITH IT

 

[AllseeingSharingan]

Hashirama admitted too the host of the juubi being stronger than he is. It was a combined effort from the shinobi alliance too beat obito. One on one he'd solo anyone.

 

[Bimbonium]

Hashirama has been soloing madara since 1901, so yes he's> pre Jin so6p

 

[VangBro95]

Hashirama is a freak of nature.

Just like his wood.

 

[RikudouMadara]

70%...? For some time nao a few were saying 90-95. Nao 70 to downplay Madara....? ^_^ Anywho....I disagree Hashirama was trying with everything he had, due to his exhaustion I believe this to be true. Madara was apathetic to everything Hashirama and Naruto did. Even took the time to focus on attacking Obito. Hashirama is shown 5xs with rods, and twice with exhaustion.

Even moreso, Madara told Hashirama that it's time for his counter attack. In which Hashirama said you're bluffing, so nao Hashirama has to deal with Madaras counter attack. Their fight is not over. Just my perception of it....if Hashirama won the fight, how is Madara about to retaliate? I also believe Madara was playing possum.

 

[SharinganisOP]

Um ya probably, and I say probably in regards to hashi being stronger or around so6p pre jin. Hashirama did completely immmobolize the juubi while focusing chakra on a barrier. I think he may have also had several clones out as well. Hashi got some extremely good genetics and was probably around the so6p chakra levels.

Obito and Madara were riding the Juubi like it was their freaking pet, using Hashi's cells to help in controlling it if I remember correctly.

The sage could have been extremely powerful before becoming the juubi's jinchurriki, and he likely was. Only two people and the juubi (maybe the summons too) had chakra in the entire world. So he likely had a lot of chakra and him having the rinnegan means he may have had access to sharingan techniques such as MS techs and Sussano. But did he really need all this? Remember how easily Obito absorbed the Juubi into him? It was extremely easy to absorb, all he had to do was use 1 technique. The hard part was controlling it after it was absorbed. So he may not have even had to be powerful.

Edit: We also have to remember that much time has past and many jutsu have been developed, jutsu that likely weren't available to the so6p before he became the juubi's jinchurriki. Though afterwards he should be able to do pretty much any jutsu or create any jutsu he wants.

 

[Optimistic]

I can't wait for your next unexpected ban.Lol

ot: I disagree .

 

[BlacLord™]

Hashirama is a freak of nature.

This.

The life-force and power in this guy's DNA means you don't need organs or a skeleton to live. :|

 

[Henrik]

You realize that Rikudou created the world? (as Jinchuuriki)

and you realize that he created the moon? Without being the jinchuuriki

 

[Naijakid]

Hashirama is a freak of nature.

Yes so true baws

Hashirama admitted too the host of the juubi being stronger than he is. It was a combined effort from the shinobi alliance too beat obito. One on one he'd solo anyone.

I said pre-jin not jin

Hashirama has been soloing madara since 1901, so yes he's> pre Jin so6p

Hehehehe you gat it baws

Just like his wood.

Ewwww....that's gross

70%...? For some time nao a few were saying 90-95. Nao 70 to downplay Madara....? ^_^ Anywho....I disagree Hashirama was trying with everything he had, due to his exhaustion I believe this to be true. Madara was apathetic to everything Hashirama and Naruto did. Even took the time to focus on attacking Obito. Hashirama is shown 5xs with rods, and twice with exhaustion.

Even moreso, Madara told Hashirama that it's time for his counter attack. In which Hashirama said you're bluffing, so nao Hashirama has to deal with Madaras counter attack. Their fight is not over. Just my perception of it....if Hashirama won the fight, how is Madara about to retaliate? I also believe Madara was playing possum.

Kishi brought Hashirama at 70% cos he knew that no form of Madara can solo Hashi at 100%

I can't wait for your next unexpected ban.Lol

ot: I disagree .

I see.....so You're one of the few who wants me ban here

You realize that Rikudou created the world? (as Jinchuuriki)

and you realize that he created the moon? Without being the jinchuuriki

I only built my thread on what Maddy fanboys said before edo Maddy got owned

 

[Ahmed1993]

You are fool to thinking like that.

Edo Madara is not = Pre Juubi Jin SOSP

Currently Revived Madara may be equal Pre Juubi Jin SOSP.

But it all depends on Madara's mastery over Rinnegan and also if he got Sage mode or no.

for me SM Revived Rinnegan Madara= Pre Juubi Jin Sage of six paths

Sage of six paths most likely had Sage mode before he became Juubi Jin due to these reasons:

1) Juubi's weakness is Senjutsu
2) Kabuto compared himself to SOSP while using his Sennin mode...:

Spoiler

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3) Part of Sage of six paths title suggest that he has known Senjutsu for sure.
4) Great Sage Toad which is very old has similliar fortune telling powers as Sage of six paths had.

Juubi jin Sage of six paths > Pre Juubi Jin Sage of six paths = Juubi Jin Obito > SM Hashirama > Edo Madara

DEAL WITH IT

Don't bother my friend , Hashirama fapboys are delusional.

 

[Yashiro]

We have no idea, we've never seen his power have we?

 

[Troyg39]

70%...? For some time nao a few were saying 90-95. Nao 70 to downplay Madara....? ^_^ Anywho....I disagree Hashirama was trying with everything he had, due to his exhaustion I believe this to be true. Madara was apathetic to everything Hashirama and Naruto did. Even took the time to focus on attacking Obito. Hashirama is shown 5xs with rods, and twice with exhaustion.

Even moreso, Madara told Hashirama that it's time for his counter attack. In which Hashirama said you're bluffing, so nao Hashirama has to deal with Madaras counter attack. Their fight is not over. Just my perception of it....if Hashirama won the fight, how is Madara about to retaliate? I also believe Madara was playing possum.

Madara is fighting with more strength than he had in his prime. Hashi wasn't even brought back at full power. You did more to downplay Madara with this attempt to defend him then a thousand Madara trolls could do in a year

OT: I guess you're right. After all it was Madara fans who started the whole "pre-jin" nonsense and went ape shit after Minato told the alliance to aid Hashirama only to find out next chapter that Hashirama had him pinned down.

But it doesn't matter. Ramen Guy solos them both

 

[AGoodBoy]

According to some fanboys:
Madara=Pre-jin So6p,
but in the last chapter we saw clearly that Hashirama owned Edo Madara.....
So this means Hashirama>pre-jin so6p right??

70% Hashirama>Edo Madara (beyond his prime) lel














DAT Hashirama

I think some people read completely different manga to others...

>hashirama panting, riddled with rods in his back
>madara restrained, conviniently, for the first time, long enough for naruto's rasenshuriken to come in

>hashirama owned madara

lol...... Implying madara couldn't get out of that. sure, hashirama was getting his ass all kinda kicked, but his wood dragon completely neutralized madara and madara had no hope left because hashi said so. The same hashi who thought madara was bluffing about a counter attack... Seems legit.

Tl;Dr; No. Hashi doesn't beat pre-jin SO6P nor does he beat Edo madara as far as canon manga goes. However, hashirama is incredibly strong. Prob as strong as the younger son, if not marginally weaker/stronger.

 

[AGoodBoy]

You are fool to thinking like that.

Edo Madara is not = Pre Juubi Jin SOSP

Currently Revived Madara may be equal Pre Juubi Jin SOSP.

But it all depends on Madara's mastery over Rinnegan and also if he got Sage mode or no.

for me SM Revived Rinnegan Madara= Pre Juubi Jin Sage of six paths

Sage of six paths most likely had Sage mode before he became Juubi Jin due to these reasons:

1) Juubi's weakness is Senjutsu
2) Kabuto compared himself to SOSP while using his Sennin mode...:

Spoiler

You must be registered for see images

3) Part of Sage of six paths title suggest that he has known Senjutsu for sure.
4) Great Sage Toad which is very old has similliar fortune telling powers as Sage of six paths had.

Juubi jin Sage of six paths > Pre Juubi Jin Sage of six paths = Juubi Jin Obito > SM Hashirama > Edo Madara

DEAL WITH IT

Wtf...? Sage created the moon on his death bed. Obito got his ass kicked by teenagers but he's equal to pre Jin sage? Are people this delusional or just this fanboyish over obito? Obito is nowhere close to SO6P. He was just the juubi jin. He's the closest so far to Sage, but he isn't. As for the SM hashirama > Edo madara part; Hashirama got bumped out of SM, badly injured and exhausted. Madara was casually sitting there.

Seriously, people honestly believe that edo madara was so strong that he could beat SM hashirama to the point hashirama was in such a state, but base hashirama would have defeated just because we see one panel of madara being restrained? That's just unbelieveable.

 

[Bronze]

Reported for multi posting.

OT: no Hashirama was never and he will never be stronger than edo Madara nor Rinne Tensie Madara either as manga showed him getting his ass exhausted while Madara smiling and playing aroundLol.

 

[Troyg39]

Wtf...? Sage created the moon on his death bed. Obito got his ass kicked by teenagers but he's equal to pre Jin sage? Are people this delusional or just this fanboyish over obito? Obito is nowhere close to SO6P. He was just the juubi jin. He's the closest so far to Sage, but he isn't. As for the SM hashirama > Edo madara part; Hashirama got bumped out of SM, badly injured and exhausted. Madara was casually sitting there.

Seriously, people honestly believe that edo madara was so strong that he could beat SM hashirama to the point hashirama was in such a state, but base hashirama would have defeated just because we see one panel of madara being restrained? That's just unbelieveable.

Why is everyone so sensitive over the last chapter?

1. Madara was brought back with more power than he ever had while alive, while Hashirama wasn't even brought back at full power from when he was alive.

2. If Edo Madara was so much more powerful than Edo Hashirama, he would've done away with him awhile ago. This "he did a counter-attack" stuff is ridiculous because if he were seriously that much stronger, there wouldn't have a need for a counter attack in the first place. Relying on his "counter-attack" to defend him is like saying had Juubito not been wounded then Madara would've had no way to escape. Unless fanboys are going to make up some other way he would've escaped without Obito, That isn't something to gloat about.

I don't understand why anyone gets upset one way or the other about the Edo Madara vs Edo Hashi debate. They weren't brought back on equal terms. Hashi wasn't brought back at 100%. And this past chapter Madara made it seem like he couldn't fight at 100% either while being an edo so really what has their recent encounter proven? Clearly neither are at their best, so does it really matter who would come out on top?

 

[Multiply]

I think some people read completely different manga to others...

>hashirama panting, riddled with rods in his back
>madara restrained, conviniently, for the first time, long enough for naruto's rasenshuriken to come in

>hashirama owned madara

lol...... Implying madara couldn't get out of that. sure, hashirama was getting his ass all kinda kicked, but his wood dragon completely neutralized madara and madara had no hope left because hashi said so. The same hashi who thought madara was bluffing about a counter attack... Seems legit.

Tl;Dr; No. Hashi doesn't beat pre-jin SO6P nor does he beat Edo madara as far as canon manga goes. However, hashirama is incredibly strong. Prob as strong as the younger son, if not marginally weaker/stronger.

Lol what? Canon manga says edo Hashirama beat edo Madara... Not only because he just did so in the manga, but because edo Madara did not break the gates. Revived Madara broke the gates. If this were merely a one on one, Hashirama would have beat Madara the second he had him stopped with the mokuton dragons.

Also I love when the fapboys bring up the chakra rods inside Hashirama. The rods, as we've seen by Madara are his attempts to control a ninja. By bringing up the fact Hashirama has several of them in his back, you're simply creating more feats for Hashirama. Hashirama beat Madara while Madara was trying to control him.


Hashirama beat him high difficulty. However, he merely had an escape plan with Obito being defeated.