Does she have Rikudo Chakra?

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But lets be frank here, it's possible for both sons to awaken different different chakras, hagoromo with rikoudo and hamura with his special chakra. Like you said in your post, not both born have to awaken the same abilities, though I'm kind of confused whether you're implying hamura has rikoudo chakra or not.

You're missing the point, in the end of the day both Hamura and Hagoromo have Kaguya's chakra, so the Rikudou chakra people talk of is actually Kaguya's chakra and not Hagoromo's.

RSM and Rinnegan are two separate abilities but they both rely on Hagoromo's chakra. The same applies to the Sage bros. Tenseigan and Rinnegan are different abilities but they both rely on Juubi/Kaguya's chakra
 

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Is that a reason to deny it ? Rikudou refers to the Juubi's power, in the end of the day Hagoromo's power is the Juubi's and so is Hamura's U_U

Juubi chakra = Shinju chakra > Hagoromo chakra

You tried looking for it and failed didn't you? All of this is basic assumption, even the person above disagrees, rikoudo is not the same as juubi chakra....hence Madara's misconception. Juubi equals senju chakra? Okay, kaguya is the juubi and yet you lack scans to prove. Kaguya isn't even a rikoudo user. And that wasn't even your original argument, your original argument was if hamura had rikoudo chakra, disproved yourself by saying hagiromo's chakra and hamura's chakra distinctively, thank you, just what I was looking for. On a side note yes that is true, however you forget that's prime juubi. And the juubi is the combination of kaguya and the Shinju so how does it equal the Shinju? That's like saying naruto+Sasuke=Sasuke, what? Prime kaguya had it, but the one Naruto and sasuke fought didn't, hence why she wanted their chakra, and hence why she isn't listed as a rikoudo user, gg wp
 

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You're missing the point, in the end of the day both Hamura and Hagoromo have Kaguya's chakra, so the Rikudou chakra people talk of is actually Kaguya's chakra and not Hagoromo's.

RSM and Rinnegan are two separate abilities but they both rely on Hagoromo's chakra. The same applies to the Sage bros. Tenseigan and Rinnegan are different abilities but they both rely on Juubi/Kaguya's chakra

Actually that's not what he was saying at all if you look above, drawing misconceptions again. All Chakra stems from the Shinju which stems from kaguya, but that was prime kaguya the kaguya Naruto and sasuke faced wasn't prime, and didn't gave all Chakra, at Naruto with just RSM and a little bit bijuu chakra was holding his own, whereas prime kaguya would slaughtered him. But didn't and don't give me that "she didn't have killer intent either" because Naruto was still holding his ground. Also can chakra not be modified? Because everybodies chakra should be the same as did they all not came from the sane source. Say yes I dare you then that nean hagoromo's chakra is no different than konohanaruVs chakra, say no I dare you, then that means that you're only furthering my point because kaguya isn't listed as s rikoudo user, either way, it does nor help you at all
 

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Whoa whoa whoa lets not get it twisted here, kaguya was not listed as a rikoudo user and neither was ham, madara made the same misconception, he believed his powers was the same as Naruto and Sasuke's INDIVIDUALLY, post-hagoromo power up, but that was proven untrue, and juubi body is basically Kaguya's body, there's a difference, Kaguya's body is susceptible to senjutsu, naruto's is not weak to it albeit can be affected obviously. Only hagororomo was listed as a user, where do people get these assumptions?

Haruma had nothing on his databook profile and Kaguya is the only known user of on expansive Gudodama. To even wield a Gudodama you need rikudou senjustu.

Everything else you posted was an assumption, you need to back up what you said with scans.
 

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She was given Hamuras chakra to destroy the tenseigan.

But even with Hamuras chakra it did jack shit to her powers since she couldn't even create a dent in the orb she needed Narutos help, all the chakra did was allow her to touch it, no wonder CC2 didn't give "the last" Hinata a new moveset, while even Sasuke with 30 second screentime got one :lmao:
 

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Haruma had nothing on his databook profile and Kaguya is the only known user of on expansive Gudodama. To even wield a Gudodama you need rikudou senjustu.

Everything else you posted was an assumption, you need to back up what you said with scans.

What the.... You can't call what I say an assumption just because you didn't attempt to refute it all all, with that logic what you're saying is also an assumption because nowhere does it state you need rikoudo chakra to perform expansive truth seeking ball, the only fact is that it's a kekkei Mora technique, and kekkei Mora that stems from rinne sharnningan I don't remember it saying rikoudo chakra ._.
 

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Sasuke does not have Hamura's chakra, Sasuke has Hagoromo's that is why he got the rinnegan. where the hell did you get your info from???

Hamura had yin seal which is "hamura chakra"

Sasuke gained rikudo chakra through yin seal which is basically "hamura chakra"

And rikudo chakra doesnt grand rinnegan. If it does, naruto obito and kakashi would've awakened rinnegan
 
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Hamura had yin seal which is "hamura chakra"

Sasuke gained rikudo chakra through yin seal which is basically "hamura chakra"

no it is not. Hagoromo also had the Yin seal -facepalms- you can not give a person someone elses chakra either -double face palms- Hagoromo's chakra is needed to awaken Rinnegan and that's what happened to Sasuke
 

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no it is not. Hagoromo also had the Yin seal -facepalms- you can not give a person someone elses chakra either -double face palms- Hagoromo's chakra is needed to awaken Rinnegan and that's what happened to Sasuke

Manga shows hago has yin seal after hago sealed kaguya with yang seal while hamura sealed her with yin seal

It's more likely hago inherited yin seal than there are many yin seal exist

To awaken rinnegan, madara had to combine indra and ashura chakra that awaken rikudo chakra that awakened rinnegan. Why rikudo chakra alone doesn't grant rinnegan? Obito kakashi and naruto is prime example. The example of awakening rinnegan manga shows is the mixing of both chakra that awaken rikudo chakra lead to ultimate dojutsu
 

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Manga shows hago has yin seal after hago sealed kaguya with yang seal while hamura sealed her with yin seal

It's more likely hago inherited yin seal than there are many yin seal exist

To awaken rinnegan, madara had to combine indra and ashura chakra that awaken rikudo chakra that awakened rinnegan. Why rikudo chakra alone doesn't grant rinnegan? Obito kakashi and naruto is prime example. The example of awakening rinnegan manga shows is the mixing of both chakra that awaken rikudo chakra lead to ultimate dojutsu

read the fourth data book it says Sasuke awakened the Rinnegan because Hagoromo gave him his chakra.
Indra+Ashura=Hagoromo . Sasuke got the chakra from the direct source
 

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read the fourth data book it says Sasuke awakened the Rinnegan because Hagoromo gave him his chakra.
Indra+Ashura=Hagoromo . Sasuke got the chakra from the direct source

Rikudo chakra doesn't grand 6 tome. Rikudo chakra + indra chakra =\= six tome

If it does, then rikudo chakra + indra chakra + ashura chakra = nine tomes which doesn't make sense

Databook doesnt state everything, has to read base on the context.
 

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You tried looking for it and failed didn't you? All of this is basic assumption, even the person above disagrees, rikoudo is not the same as juubi chakra....hence Madara's misconception. Juubi equals senju chakra? Okay, kaguya is the juubi and yet you lack scans to prove. Kaguya isn't even a rikoudo user. And that wasn't even your original argument, your original argument was if hamura had rikoudo chakra, disproved yourself by saying hagiromo's chakra and hamura's chakra distinctively, thank you, just what I was looking for. On a side note yes that is true, however you forget that's prime juubi. And the juubi is the combination of kaguya and the Shinju so how does it equal the Shinju? That's like saying naruto+Sasuke=Sasuke, what? Prime kaguya had it, but the one Naruto and sasuke fought didn't, hence why she wanted their chakra, and hence why she isn't listed as a rikoudo user, gg wp

Kakashi referred to Madara's power as Rikudo chakra after he became the Juubi Jin tho so wouldn't that be evidence that Rikudo chakra came from the Juubi? Minato referred to it as power of the hermit . Kaguya gained Rikudo chakra from eating the fruit and passed it on to her two sons but chakra is different for everyone plus both brothers received different powers from their mom; Hamura Byakugan and whatever powers that goes with that and Hagoromo the Rinnegan. We know chakra is different because sensors can distinguish others from their chakra signature plus Kurama mentions how Naruto transforms his chakra to match everyone's type .


Manga shows hago has yin seal after hago sealed kaguya with yang seal while hamura sealed her with yin seal

It's more likely hago inherited yin seal than there are many yin seal exist

To awaken rinnegan, madara had to combine indra and ashura chakra that awaken rikudo chakra that awakened rinnegan. Why rikudo chakra alone doesn't grant rinnegan? Obito kakashi and naruto is prime example. The example of awakening rinnegan manga shows is the mixing of both chakra that awaken rikudo chakra lead to ultimate dojutsu

Hagoromo and Hamura are both Yin and Yang. Obito broke down what Yin and Yang represents, yin is spiritual energy and imagination while yang is physical energy and vitality . Obito explains how Indra got the Sage's eyes which gifted him with powerful chakra as spiritual energy (Yin) while Ashura got the Sage's body which gifted him life force and physical energy (Yang) . Both Hagoromo and Hamura have doujutsus which have their own set of powers and abilities and both seems to have split their eyes and body powers to their kids; Senju/Uchihas and the 2 clans on the moon. The Hyuuga 64 palm even shows the yin yang symbol as well.
 
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