Does Naruto really lose RSM in the last?

[Zavage10]

This is question for those who know for sure.

Also is hinata really kage lvl in the or are they just trolling about that?

 

[TheAncientJinchuuriki]

Naruto didn't lose RSM

 

[Im Still Robin]

He lost it...

And no lol.

 

[DoubleKamui]

We don't know if Naruto really lost his RSM.

Hinata is the same-old Hinata. She's far from Kage level.

 

[Narutohokage324]

He lost it...

And no lol.

First of all OP, do not listen to this guy or "IceSlayer" whatever he changes his name to nowadays. He always tries to bring down Naruto, and never thinks clearly when it doesn't involve Sasuke

Under me is a quote from somebody who had saw the movie, and stated he "thought" it was gone because he didn't see it in the movie.

I cannot prove either of those things
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You have no proof to your claims of it disappearing, so no. Naruto obviously has RSM and his Rikudou Chakra, just as Sasuke has his Sharringan and his Rikudou Chakra. Firstly nothing proves that Naruto needs the power of all nine tailed beasts to use RSM. It does not state this in the manga, nor does it state this in the databooks. Only the WIKI says this, and I have recently talked to their moderators and they have no proof to their claims. Read this please:

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Next you act as if the absorbing of chakra was explained to be more than Naruto/Kurama's. It was not. Therefore Naruto not using RIkudou chakra in the movie equals to him losing the power when they never even showcased that? Do you realize how stupid that sounds, right? Of course substantially the amount of required knowledge for such actions does not justifty the incorrect means of idealism towards Kishimoto's work. Understand? StudioP made this movie, not Kishimoto. Manga > Movie. I don't know how to put this into the minds of the easily seduced.

To end this argument. Kishimoto has never stated Naruto lost RSM, so where do you pull this out? Kishimoto has never stated that RSM form requires all nine tailed beasts to form, merely Naruto can use their powers. I already proved that in the thread link above.

Kishimoto has stated Naruto and Sasuke will always be equal. How does BM = Sharringan?
It doesn't.

Could you imagine Kishimoto stating to SP to nerf the MC? It doesn't sound plausible. Be true to yourself, and the work he has given us. There you can find the answer. Not some half-assed written plot for the final "Naruto K11" movie.

 

[The Work]

I doubt he even needed it for Toneri.

 

[Arima]

I think in the movie they did not show it in order not to spoil naruto for those who do not read manga, just like they did not show rinnegan (even in trailer when we saw sasuke's both eyes they did not show second eye as rinnegan)

 

[Omar19992010]

He never lost it. That's just something Sasuke fanboys made up to make Naruto look weaker and Sasuke stronger.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

No he didn't ,he's just too OP he only needed BSM and hamura chakra from hinata

probably nah but high jounin yes, i mean she easily solos featles people like mei so why not?

 

[Gerkak]

No he hasn't. Toneri wasn't strong enough to get him to reveal his true power

 

[The Necromancer]

He didn't lose it, the makers just didn't know about RSM when the production went underway, and didn't include it due to spoilers for Anime only members.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

There is no reason or evidence to say that Naruto lost RSM. No idea about Hinata.

 

[Zealous Sparks]

He didn't lose it, the makers just didn't know about RSM when the production went underway, and didn't include it due to spoilers for Anime only members.

This is probably the most plausible answer. It's still difficult to say unless he uses those powers in the upcoming mini-series or the Boruto movie.

 

[Zavage10]

He didn't lose it, the makers just didn't know about RSM when the production went underway, and didn't include it due to spoilers for Anime only members.

I really don't see how this is the answer, because naruto and sasuke both don't have arms, kakashi doesn't have a sharingan, and sasuke also has his rinnegan. This shows that they knew about the ending beforehand.

 

[Conspirator.]

Naruto obviously did not lose it. Even if you haven't seen the movie or heard the spoilers, it should be damn obvious that Naruto wouldn't lose his Rikudo Power. Why the hell would Kishi want to weaken the MC, exactly?

 

[The Necromancer]

I really don't see how this is the answer, because naruto and sasuke both don't have arms, kakashi doesn't have a sharingan, and sasuke also has his rinnegan. This shows that they knew about the ending beforehand.

That's a fair point. I didn't really think about it that hard.

 

[Narutohokage324]

That's a fair point. I didn't really think about it that hard.

I really don't see how this is the answer, because naruto and sasuke both don't have arms, kakashi doesn't have a sharingan, and sasuke also has his rinnegan. This shows that they knew about the ending beforehand.

Well I'll break it down the best way I can. Firstly, this movie should not be a representative of the real Naruto. Why? It's a pairing thing. Kishimoto did not want to make this wholeheartedly as a real movie, but merely Studi Perriot decided they wanted to make a movie on Naruto and Hinata's love. Taking that for understanding, we should already know to base our facts on this movie from the manga instead of the last "K-11" movie for Naruto. Which didn't really show any of the characters.

Firstly in the movie itself, Naruto displayed feats that wouldn't really consider it to be cannon in KCM/BM form. Such as: Flying, removing a chakra substance from Hinata's body, and one more (which I wil explain below). No idea how he could do any of these without some special type of chakra: Rikudou.

Anyway, the reasoning for the Last movie showcasing Kakashi as the Hokage is no big deal. Kishimoto had to have told SP he wanted to make Naruto the 7th Hokage, as he was too young. Nothing major.

Now Sasuke using the Rinnegan scene. That is the important part of this. The scene was literally for 35 seconds in total, and Sasuke in the scene had to use the Rinnegan to save the village by teleporting to Hiashi after destroying the meteor and exiting. In his 35 second show time I'm sure it wasn't hard to implement the Rinnegan itself, so there goes that scenario.

Now onto why Naruto most likely didn't use his Rikudou power up is for these two reasons:

1. They wanted to save it for the anime
2. They didn't want to nerf the form to equal a base RSM power which was standing against Kaguya.

I mean taking that into account Sasuke never fought anybody with his Rinnegan in the movie, so why would they need Naruto to use RSM against a weak version of JJ Madara?

The last scene of Naruto vs Toneri, he turned off his KCM form and a orange chakra started to form on his right hand which gave him a strange power to run straight through Tensagian-monster Toneri chakra blast attack. I cannot break down the scene with Naruto-logic. He literally just went straight through the attack without creating an attack, just an orange arm. He then re-created another arm on his left, and punched Toneri while shattering the moon surface.

Lastly: If it is not stated in the manga, it does not happen anywhere else.

What we know about Naruto/Kishimoto:

Naruto equals Sasuke (When does BM = Sharringan :l)
Kishimoto would never nerf the MC

That should be enough evidence to have a stable mind and destroy claims of him losing a power that was intended to st ay. He is Ashura's transmigrate after all.

 

[ANiMUS]

Last is canon and continues the manga. I don't think Naruto was holding back on Toneri with the world at stake. Kishimoto did the character designs so if he showed Naruto with KCM that must mean that is Naruto's current strength. He may have some rikudou power left because of his being able to fly, but the bijuu chakra which comprises the TSB and gives him the ability of all elements seems to be gone.

Them keeping RSM secret when Sasuke has tome'd rinnegan, and the MV is a descendant of Hamura who only made an appearance near the time when Naruto got RSM doesn't sound plausible either

I don't really see a reason to believe that Naruto still has full on RSM, but ppl can believe what they want. Its not like Naruto will see anymore serious fights in this series anyway.

 

[Narutohokage324]

Last is canon and continues the manga. I don't think Naruto was holding back on Toneri with the world at stake. Kishimoto did the character designs so if he showed Naruto with KCM that must mean that is Naruto's current strength. He may have some rikudou power left because of his being able to fly, but the bijuu chakra which comprises the TSB and gives him the ability of all elements seems to be gone.

Them keeping RSM secret when Sasuke has tome'd rinnegan, and the MV is a descendant of Hamura who only made an appearance near the time when Naruto got RSM doesn't sound plausible either

I don't really see a reason to believe that Naruto still has full on RSM, but ppl can believe what they want. Its not like Naruto will see anymore serious fights in this series anyway.

They probably didn't want to showcase and nerf the power all together. I mean this is StudioPerriot.

You should know by now how Kishimoto operates. Naruto = Sasuke, always.

And Kishimoto would never intentionally remove/take away a power necessary for him to be weaker. This is Shounen xD~!

IF THE MANGA DOES NOT STATE THIS, it never happened.

Manga > Movie every time

Naruto using KCM to fight Toneri was not his "FULL POWER." They where showing us how Naruto had GROWN in power by being able to fight enemies with Base KCM/BM power alone without using his RM/RSM form.

Although he did display feats with RM/RSM capabilities, nothing else was needed to destroy that Fodder villian.

And yes, I saw the movie.

 

[ANiMUS]

They probably didn't want to showcase and nerf the power all together. I mean this is StudioPerriot.

You should know by now how Kishimoto operates. Naruto = Sasuke, always.

And Kishimoto would never intentionally remove/take away a power necessary for him to be weaker. This is Shounen xD~!

IF THE MANGA DOES NOT STATE THIS, it never happened.

Manga > Movie every time

@bold Kishi called the movie 699.5 :| so effectively the movie is manga Lol

Anyway we can't really say what Kishimoto will do, but he did emphasize multiple times how little bijuu chakra Naruto had. That very well could be the reason for the decrease to KCM.

I don't know about Naruto=Sasuke though. Kishimoto always finds a way for the other to be on the same field, but in the last VoTE fight Sasuke wouldn't have put up a fight if he didn't have bijuu chakra or if Naruto had his full RSM abilities and wanted to fight him seriously.

I mean Sasuke only knew like two rinnegan techs