[Spoilers] Does Naruto have a Kekkei Genkai Now ?

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Well as with Gaara, even if the TB are extracted and he is resurrected then he will maintain their abilities, so I guess it could be argued that he has Kekkai Genkai now.
 

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Muu taught Onoki Jinton. Most KKG aren't passed down genetically.
Muu taught him because he was born with kkt. Which is why he was under the 1st douchekage as a kid.

Do you mean like how ao has byakugan and danzo/kakashi sharingan?
only a tangible form of a kkg can be passed/stolen(rare). Like the eyes or hashis cells which still doesn't make it actually their kkg, they cant pass it on through genes.

So most kkg are passed through genes. Naruto cannot and will never gain a kkg... he was born already with only wind affinity and just cause jins gain certain release styles upon a successful sealing doesn't make it a kkg. Kurama doesn't even have a special chakra style like the others.
 

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Re: naruto has kekkei genkai.

Roshi got it from goku. Not his personal kkg

Naruto never got a special chakra release from kurama and even if he did its not his kkg. Its like gaara's pappy and the 2nd kazekage who could manipulate sediments via magnet kkg. but gaara was only able to gain sand release do to having shikaku sealed inside him & its not a kkg nor did he inherit magnet kkg.
 

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Muu taught Onoki Jinton. Most KKG aren't passed down genetically.
Muu taught him because he was born with kkt. Which is why he was under the 1st douchekage as a kid.

Do you mean like how ao has byakugan and danzo/kakashi sharingan?
only a tangible form of a kkg can be passed/stolen(rare). Like the eyes or hashis cells which still doesn't make it actually their kkg, they cant pass it on through genes.

So most kkg are passed through genes. Naruto cannot and will never gain a kkg... he was born already with only wind affinity and just cause jins gain certain release styles upon a successful sealing doesn't make it a kkg. Kurama doesn't even have a special chakra style like the others.
Well, seeing as chakra is the basis for all jutsu, doesn't it mean that the bloodline limit is inherited through chakra? That's why a jinchuuriki gain the abilities of his tailed beasts. The same with Hashirama's mokuton. It's mostly the chakra rather than the cells that make people able to use mokuton, I say this because before anyone had chakra, no one had any special abilities. The abilities were gained after everyone gained chakra. So Naruto could use a KKG (I say KKG, because only son Goku is able to use that skill) of a tailed beast if he has their chakra.
 

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Muu taught Onoki Jinton. Most KKG aren't passed down genetically.

Well, seeing as chakra is the basis for all jutsu, doesn't it mean that the bloodline limit is inherited through chakra? That's why a jinchuuriki gain the abilities of his tailed beasts. The same with Hashirama's mokuton. It's mostly the chakra rather than the cells that make people able to use mokuton, I say this because before anyone had chakra, no one had any special abilities. The abilities were gained after everyone gained chakra. So Naruto could use a KKG (I say KKG, because only son Goku is able to use that skill) of a tailed beast if he has their chakra.
Get what your saying and I partially agree. But kaguya clearly had doujutsu(byakugan) before chakra was stolen and passed so tht rules out kkg being passed through chakra; being that chakra is inherited through blood using that logic. And as a shinobi can use another's kkg(eyes for example) or a naruto now using lava release from having goku inside him makes that an aquired trait, not one that he was born with; on top of him asking for the ability to use the release through goku(medium) as opposed to on his own at whim(kkg)

Oh and sasuke has hashi chakra but he's was not whipping out wood release before tht awful one shot by Madz. But i think he could if it werent pointless already what with kabuto giving him the cells after stabbing.
 
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Just using Son Goku's chakra.

Kekkei Genkai/Touta are techniques limited to inheritance by blood and are only passed down genetically. You can't get a Kekkei Genkai later on in your life...but you can still learn other elements when you reach a high enough level (according to Kakashi).

Madara killed that logic ages ago.


OT:Naruto technically combined 3 elements in one jutsu(Wind,Earth and Fire). So it is a KKT not a KKG.
 

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OT:Naruto technically combined 3 elements in one jutsu(Wind,Earth and Fire). So it is a KKT not a KKG.
Nah, he combined Yōton and Fūton. If Naruto would combine the Seishitsuhenka of Futon, Katon and Doton the result would be completely different. Yōton consists of Katon and Doton, but the ability of the Kekkai Genkai creates Lava.
 

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Nah, he combined Yōton and Fūton. If Naruto would combine the Seishitsuhenka of Futon, Katon and Doton the result would be completely different. Yōton consists of Katon and Doton, but the ability of the Kekkai Genkai creates Lava.

I know what you are trying to say here and Iam already aware of that but still he pulled a jutsu by using 3 elements and those elements'll become one after the blast which is why I said he technically combined them.


Btw feel free to use normal English names,Iam well aware of English names so I can understand them pretty easily. You don't have to copy paste the names from Wiki.
 

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Yes he does. As Gaara received the ability of controlling sand, as Roshi received Yoton from Son Goku. After Shukaku was extracted, Gaara could still use his sand. This implies the Biju transfers his KKG to the jinchurki, implying Naruto does have KGG now among other unique abilities.
 

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technically he is using son goku's lava ability, but technically it's his now. gaara kept his ability to use sand after having the shukaku taken from him. so by that logic, we can assume that even if he had that chakra taken from him now, he would still have the ability to use said jutsu. that along with the other abilities from the other tailed beat as well.
 

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I know what you are trying to say here and Iam already aware of that but still he pulled a jutsu by using 3 elements and those elements'll become one after the blast which is why I said he technically combined them.
Nope, he didn't. There aren't three Seishitsuhenka, but only Yōton and Futon. The Yōton ability is Gokūs, actually.
Naruto doesn't even know how to use Katon and Doton on his own.
Btw feel free to use normal English names,Iam well aware of English names so I can understand them pretty easily. You don't have to copy paste the names from Wiki.
The usual english terms are improper and misdirecting. For example your use of the term "element" doesn't fit exactly the discription of Futon. Therefore, I prefer after all the original. If you wan't to know the exact meaning behind it, feel free to ask.
 
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There's no other way of saying it other yes, he definitely does if the spoiler is real... Roshi was able to have a kekei genkai via son goku...
 

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To be honest, whatever power-ups Naruto and Sasuke has now I really they become temporary with Naruto losing the sun power in his palm as well as the other Bijuu chakra and ends with Full Kurama(Yin/Yang) and sage mode and Sasuke losing the moon power in his hand and whatever his eyes turn into, as well as any power related to Hashirama or Juugo or any sage related power and ends with only EMS. And they have their final battle as Naruto(Kurama(Full)(KCM+BM) and Sage mode) and Sasuke(EMS)
 

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What do you guys think or is he just using the Son Goku's Chakra?
Both. I believe that Naruto has became the jinchuuriki of all of the bijuu now and like other jinchuuriki gains access to their bijuu's abilities (their KKG). Roshi the original jinchuuriki of Son Goku was also given Son Goku's KKG (lava release) through fused chakra similar to how Kakashi gained his sharingan, Danzo gained many sharingans Ao gained his byakugan and how Madara gained mokuton.

But Naruto can only keep lava release if Son Goku is fused w/ him. If Son Goku is extracted Naruto would loose the lava release KKG so he's keeping it until that happens. I bet he's got the KKG of all the bijuu. How exciting. :)
 

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Nope, he didn't. There aren't three Seishitsuhenka, but only Yōton and Futon. The Yōton ability is Gokūs, actually.
Naruto doesn't even know how to use Katon and Doton on his own.
You see,Your point makes no difference here as Naruto is the jutsu performer.Naruto uses Kyuubi's chakra to perform TBB that dosen't mean that it is not Naruto who is performing the jutsu.Same logic goes to Naruto and Goku as Goku is a part of Naruto's power now.

@bold:As I said b4,Madara killed that logic ages ago and at this point that logics holds no relevance.Look at Obito Uchiha,I don't remember Obito mastering earth and water style but dude can pull wood style attacks yet we are saying that Obito uses wood style but incase of Naruto it is Goku's power? Double standards.:yeah:


The usual english terms are improper and misdirecting. For example your use of the term "element" doesn't fit exactly the discription of Futon. Therefore, I prefer after all the original. If you wan't to know the exact meaning behind it, feel free to ask.
Lmao,Seems like you didn't get my point. Iam quite familiar with those names and their respective English names so there is no need for you to explain anything to me. I was just suggesting you to stop copy and paste the names from wiki to lessen your burden.that's it.I have no problem with any trans.
 

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@bold:As I said b4,Madara killed that logic ages ago and at this point that logics holds no relevance.Look at Obito Uchiha,I don't remember Obito mastering earth and water style but dude can pull wood style attacks yet we are saying that Obito uses wood style but incase of Naruto it is Goku's power? Double standards.:yeah:
Nope, stop. This is just your own misunderstanding. Yamato explained long ago how Mokuton is created. And Obito does it the same way. Obitos body possess the Kekkai Genkai Mokuton, which allows him to connect the Seishitsuhenka of Doton and Suiton.
Narutos body on the other hand doesn't hold the Kekkai Genkai to connect Doton and Katon(Yōton) and the basic Seishitsuhenka itself. The issue is clear at this point~ Naruto had asked Gokū for his chakra, Yōton-chakra and connected it afterwards with his own Seishitsuhenka Futon.
There is no Katon and Doton, but only Yōton. The Senpō: Yōton Rasen-Shuriken is the result of a Kekkai Genkai and another Seishitsuhenka.

If Naruto would connect Katon, Doton and Futon on his own, he wouldn't create this Jutsu, but Jinton.
Naruto uses a Kekkai Genkai, but isn't the source of that power.

The reason why I use the original is simple~the term "element" doesn't refer to Futon and so on, but only to Seishitsu(element).
The five basic elements are: Fu, Ka, Rai, Sui and Do.
If we talk about Futon and so on, it's Seishitsuhenka. Seishitsuhenka is the ability to let his own chakra adopt the properties of one Seishitsu, one element, however, in this meaning it isn't the element itself, but only chakra. The suffix "ton" means chakra release.
 
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