Does Naruto actually have the upper hand?

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Koha

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How did you know that Ashura had an entire army at his back?? Can't remember it being metioned anywhere. One thing is for sure, that Ashura's successor Hashirama defeated Indra's successor Madara, without a help from anyone!

I believe he had help from Mito at the time. I could be wrong.
 

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People beyond overestimating Naruto is really irksome... Like they're both on the same level, it
wouldn't be outright destruction on either side.

Both of them are severely holding back. But really? WHO GOES ALL OUT in the first stage of a fight? That's pure idiocy.

It's not that we don't think that sasuke is on the same level of naruto, it's just that we haven't seen enough feats to prove this yet. NarutoBlitz loves to make these kind of thread, because like almost every sasuke fans they haven't seen enough feats to put him on the same level as naruto, so they have insecurities and probably question themselves if he is really on his level.

this is probably why they get to those delusional type of thinking

but kishi just showed a feat that he glance all 9 bijuu and sealed them in CT, that 1 feat now lets watch the rest of the battle, maybe kishi will confirm that he is equal or not. only this battle can tell.

but this is difficult battle, people are saying naruto is protected by plot
but so is sasuke, naruto is not trying to kill him, so he can't really go all out like he did with
kaguya unless sasuke himself is capable of handling him going all out. we will see.
 
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What is delusional is doubting the word of the creator, who has said many times through numerous characters that Naruto and Sasuke are on the same level. The Sage gave each of them half his power, what more do you need than that?
 

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What is delusional is doubting the word of the creator, who has said many times through numerous characters that Naruto and Sasuke are on the same level. The Sage gave each of them half his power, what more do you need than that?

You say that, yet you've created a thread saying you think Naruto is "canonically weaker than Sasuke".

Incredible. :gn:
 

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BZ told Kaguya to focus on Sasuke first. They regarded him as the primary threat. Base may not like it, but Sasuke is at least as powerful as Nardo, if not more powerful outright, faster, smarter and generally better.

you mean they tossed him into some random dimension so they could go handle the real threat??

sasuke literally has no technique that has enough power to harm kaguya, all he can do is blink around and then be too physically slow to actually follow up his teleportations with an attack.
 
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It's not that we don't think that sasuke is on the same level of naruto, it's just that we haven't seen enough feats to prove this yet. NarutoBlitz loves to make these kind of thread, because like almost every sasuke fans they haven't seen enough feats to put him on the same level as naruto, so they have insecurities and probably question themselves if he is really on his level.

this is probably why they get to those delusional type of thinking

but kishi just showed a feat that he glance all 9 bijuu and sealed them in CT, that 1 feat now lets watch the rest of the battle, maybe kishi will confirm that he is equal or not. only this battle can tell.

Let's see, dude. But for other fans either biased against or Naruto fans completely expect neg-diffing. That's what gets me. Haha those who actually support claims of a slight victory or draw, I respect. But others' even through mangafacts I can't take serious.
 

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What is delusional is doubting the word of the creator, who has said many times through numerous characters that Naruto and Sasuke are on the same level. The Sage gave each of them half his power, what more do you need than that?

no the way your interpreting what was said is delusional, you also tend to put your own facts into the manga as if its true when the manga itself does not say that.

for example
"Well here's the fact. Naruto said he was weaker than Sasuke when they met before the war. He said literally in Japanese さすけをやめてできなかったばよ, which means literally Believe me, I was unable to stop Sasuke. Unable, meaning Sasuke was stronger than Naruto. Also, when Ashura defeated Indra, he had an entire army at his back."

here you go on to say naruto admits that he is weak because he could not stop sasuke.

but as Zawerni kindly stated
"Why do people keep interpreting that as Naruto saying Sasuke is stronger? He's saying he can't beat Sasuke cause if they fight they would both die. Meaning they were equal."

this is the correct way of interpreting it, because you have manga facts of naruto stating the same thing, that they would both die if they were to fight.

but another way of Interpreting it would be that naruto was unable to return sasuke back to the way he was, because naruto sensed that sasuke was not himself. this was the time that he probably sense Indra in sasuke. and you can go back in the manga and notice that at the time karin has stated that sasuke chakra has change.

you should know that naruto is never going to try and kill sasuke, so his mission is not to defeat sasuke but to return him back to the way he was before he got corrupted.

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and then you stated that ashura had an army backing him up during his fight with indra. if you can go in the manga and find this battle that indra and ashura had, thats right, the manga has not stated anything like that, that is what I consider delusional thinking.
 
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They're fighting for like a minute dude. They're not going all out.
 

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Let's see, dude. But for other fans either biased against or Naruto fans completely expect neg-diffing. That's what gets me. Haha those who actually support claims of a slight victory or draw, I respect. But others' even through mangafacts I can't take serious.

Honestly I don't know why any naruto fan would consider naruto neg-diffing sasuke. that fight would be boring as hell, and that's not good writing.

I honestly see their powerups on hashirama and madara level, even thou I sometimes view both as equal hashirama seems to me was one step ahead of madara, this is because he actually won the fight at VOTE, I know madara survived thanks to his izanagi, but their is a reason why madara probably didn't return to fight hashirama again but waited his days hoping to get the rinnegan.
 

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You say that, yet you've created a thread saying you think Naruto is "canonically weaker than Sasuke".

Incredible. :gn:

exactly and he probably wonders why people say " you again" in his thread.
 

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do people actually take naruoblitz seriously? every thread he makes is bullshit.
 

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What is delusional is doubting the word of the creator, who has said many times through numerous characters that Naruto and Sasuke are on the same level. The Sage gave each of them half his power, what more do you need than that?

And now your saying their equal when just above you were quoting a text in Japanese mentioning "I was unable to stop Sasuke" and you understood that as Naruto being to weak to stop Sasuke and in turn think oh yea that means Naruto < Sasuke and now their equal? lol
 

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Oh wow, the contradictions you make are impressive. If you're going to deny what actually takes place in the manga due to your bias against Naruto, why even both discussing any of this? Even Sasuke noted that Naruto is holding back. Naruto blatantly stated he doesn't want to kill Sasuke. If Naruto hypothetically won this battle, you'd still make an excuse as to why Sasuke should have won. I will be looking forward to reading that.
 

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Naruto will always be ahead of Sasuke, like it has been since part 1.
 

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do people actually take naruoblitz seriously? every thread he makes is bullshit.

Considering the rep score I have, the answer to that is apparently yes. Naruto has stated himself that Sasuke is on his level, and that he cannot defeat Sasuke through strength alone. NB is delusional about this manga fact. Naruto is currently fighting Sasuke, and so far he's mostly been on the defensive.

Naruto will always be ahead of Sasuke, like it has been since part 1.

Valley of the end. Sasuke beat Naruto. Roof, they fought to a draw. OAV, Sasuke had the upper hand. Then a nearly blind Sasuke fought SM Naruto to a tie. A fight Naruto later said Sasuke had the advantage in.
 
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