Does morality even exist?

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Obviously it's important.
But like, people argue over what the right thing is all the time, like in politics.

Really nobody knows what the right thing is, and it seems like nihilism is sort of right, the bad guys seem to win a lot, even when they lose.

I'm seriously debating suicide right now, everything is falling apart and I'm scared, I'm not sure I picked the right education, I don't know if I can do it. I don't know what to do in order to achieve my dreams.

I'm only saying this cus I know I can be anonomous on the internet, I don't really have anywhere to turn to.
 

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I bought the popular book 12 RULES FOR LIFE recently and there was something very interesting i read about this exact topic. But idk what page it was unfortunately. I would totally recommend it. The book called Cats Don't Bark it's also great. I have not fully read it cause i'm lazy but it's supposed to help you find direction in life, or at least try. It deals with stress, depression, feeling like you have no purpose etc. and provides you with a mini guide on what to do.

I'm also having problems so idk if i can offer that much help. But yes morality does exist. We don't all have the same morals, but that's one of the great things of being a human being. Even animals know wrong from good.

Nihilism isn't a good thing to live by imo. I was the biggest nihilist for the longest time and i can tell you it did not work well for me. Yeah, it's true i suppose, there is no point to anything, because we all die in the end anyway, but then... Why even live to begin with? What was the point in being born at all? Why continue to struggle and change others minds if there is no point to it all. Why live a miserable life? No. I'm of the mindset now that there is a reason for everything that happens.
 

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I bought the popular book 12 RULES FOR LIFE recently and there was something very interesting i read about this exact topic. But idk what page it was unfortunately. I would totally recommend it. The book called Cats Don't Bark it's also great. I have not fully read it cause i'm lazy but it's supposed to help you find direction in life, or at least try. It deals with stress, depression, feeling like you have no purpose etc. and provides you with a mini guide on what to do.

I'm also having problems so idk if i can offer that much help. But yes morality does exist. We don't all have the same morals, but that's one of the great things of being a human being. Even animals know wrong from good.

Nihilism isn't a good thing to live by imo. I was the biggest nihilist for the longest time and i can tell you it did not work well for me. Yeah, it's true i suppose, there is no point to anything, because we all die in the end anyway, but then... Why even live to begin with? What was the point in being born at all? Why continue to struggle and change others minds if there is no point to it all. Why live a miserable life? No. I'm of the mindset now that there is a reason for everything that happens.

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Go clean your room Fountain.

There is no purpose and that’s great. Do what you want. But remember. You choose to live in a society where you must get along. If not, go live by yourself in the middle of no where.

There is a reason for everything? Dur!!!
 
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Dur! retard alert.

Go clean your room Fountain.

There is no purpose and that’s great. Do what you want. But remember. You choose to live in a society where you must get along. If not, go live by yourself in the middle of no where.

There is a reason for everything? Dur!!!
That's sad.
 

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I think you need to build some healthy relationships first or at least try to maintain the ones you already have. The fact that you so casually mentioned the word suicide gives me the feeling that you don't really have anyone who would miss you or you don't really care if they miss you or not.

From my point of view, you are just lonely. I have also noticed that most of your threads posted in this section are so depressing and you're always finding fault with things like religion etc.
 

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Wow! Slow down. Don't take the suicide route!!!

If some place is making you sick: either ignore the people who are doing this, or make them leave.

If you can't do either - it's difficult I know - then you must take the first step to get away from it.
 

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Don't take that route. Sometimes, watching your world fall apart, it's a way to build a stronger foundation. By living, you somehow have a chance to change your situation but, what would dying change except bringing sadness to the ones close to you?

We cannot really tell you not to do it or even take that decision for you but, remember what advantages is there in the options that you choose, carefully.
 

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I bought the popular book 12 RULES FOR LIFE recently and there was something very interesting i read about this exact topic. But idk what page it was unfortunately. I would totally recommend it. The book called Cats Don't Bark it's also great. I have not fully read it cause i'm lazy but it's supposed to help you find direction in life, or at least try. It deals with stress, depression, feeling like you have no purpose etc. and provides you with a mini guide on what to do.

I'm also having problems so idk if i can offer that much help. But yes morality does exist. We don't all have the same morals, but that's one of the great things of being a human being. Even animals know wrong from good.

Nihilism isn't a good thing to live by imo. I was the biggest nihilist for the longest time and i can tell you it did not work well for me. Yeah, it's true i suppose, there is no point to anything, because we all die in the end anyway, but then... Why even live to begin with? What was the point in being born at all? Why continue to struggle and change others minds if there is no point to it all. Why live a miserable life? No. I'm of the mindset now that there is a reason for everything that happens.
It is true and there's no actual point to being born. The truth is that the only point to life is the one you make of it; if we're put in front of this blank canvas, we may as well paint on it whilst we've got it.

OP: Death isn't going anywhere, let the man in the cloak come for you in his own good time. He's got plenty of old geriatics to get through without you clogging up his list even more! You're here, so you may as well make the best of your stay. Make that step and you know what? If things don't work out first time around, it's not the end of the world either. Take what you can from the experience and grow.

If you want to talk any more, drop me a PM.

Oh and for your question about morality, yes it does. It's a man-made creation but a very real way of representing/mapping our increased emotional awareness compared to our less evolved antecendants. In other words, it's a marker of our progression as a race.
 
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Morality exists subjectively, meaning in so far as you choose for it to exist. Do you think kidnapping, raping, and kill a child is immoral? (YES), Congratulations, you have a moral system.


Morality does not exist objectively within the context of epistemology. All the axioms on which we base are morals are presumed because we have yet to establish a deep understanding of our universe, and or existence, yet alone our consciousness. So, all morals are essentially arbitrary preferences. BUT, just because they are subjective, does not mean you have to submit yourself to nihilism.


Everyone acts on there presumptions in every other context, so why would you not act on your presumptions in the moral context? Being a moral nihilist due to a lack of epistemological understanding of morality makes as much sense as no longer eating when your stomach rumbles because "you don't know for a fact that you're hungry".
 

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education isn't all there is to life, you've probably heard that a lot and that's cos its true just go for it whether u succeed or fail just laugh at it cos when u look at life as a whole its a tiny ass detail so don't stress yourself rather enjoy yourself when u do it as for morality its just about choice be good to yourself and people around u cos nobody wins when u try to bring harm to someone else, hope this helps
 
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I apologise if you feel suicidal because I've been down that road before but there is counselling and social groups you could attend to it might make you feel a bit better, Not the complete answer I'm sure but it's a good start to opening doors in life.
 
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