does madara really have all the rinnegan power's and is that why nagato was important

the rinnegan requires you to unlock it's abilities

  • madara needed nagato to get a mastered rinnegan so tobi told truth

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there has been plenty of ways for the kages to have died against madara , chikabi tensai,asura path explosion blast from the head,animal path, and the human path with also many ways for them to die.

the thing is it looks like madara just started using the rinnegan and learned the deva path and preta path that is it.

i think nagato was more important than just reviving madara at some point i think madara uchiha(the real one not tobi) was suppose to take his eye back after nagato brought madara back to life.
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the reason is so that he can unlock the rinnegan's abilities without doing the work himself.If madara really died with those eyes and what tobi said was right of tobi himself giving nagato the rinnegan than maybe madara only gave nagato that power to just unlock the abilities.

when nagato first got the rinnegan he had could only do nature types he didn't start off with being able to actually control the path's of the rinnegan and later on he started to unlock more of the path's.

like when nagato used gedo mazou for the first time because he was in anger and all of them were shocked and never saw it before so it just probably takes time.

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so basically it takes time to master the rinnegan and unlock it's abilities and i think it is also unloock with passion and emotion and since the 5 kages fight was to easy and boring he wanted to leave so basically in danger you unlock a path like which nagato did.
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this is just an idea.
 

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Definitely makes sense
 

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Definitely makes sense

thanks, because all them should have died if he used the rinnegan path's and even when he said he was playing around there was multiple times where he could have took tsunade's soul and madara said he wanted to kill tsunade first.
 

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he might use them later on but maybe your right
 

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so many assumptions so much room for error

madara had multiple times to have taken tsunade soul or the raikage they should have died long time ago.

he could have blown up onoki when he was on the floor which would be the asura path.

nagato never used a path tech when he was a kid, he learned nature types and then got better with the rinnegan and used path's.

so it is possible wince the sharingan requires to unlock abilities and to strengthen them that the rinnegan user needs to unlock path's
 

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Didn't he say he was toying with them ?
Anyway it is quite possible
 

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Didn't he say he was toying with them ?
Anyway it is quite possible

he wanted tsunade to die first and then pulled susanno he ssaid he wasn't going all out until he pulled his susanno but before he pulled it out, madara said he wanted to kill tsunade right then and let her be the first one to die.
 

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Madara died shortly after obtaining Rinnegan so he cldnt have mastered all its powers. Nagato had a lot of time to practice but Madara sadly didnt have the pleasure.
 

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Madara died shortly after obtaining Rinnegan so he cldnt have mastered all its powers. Nagato had a lot of time to practice but Madara sadly didnt have the pleasure.

yea and that is hwy i think madara wanted it so that he can get nagato master it for him so when madara was revived madara uchiha would get his eye's back like tobi said, the thing is he is an edo so i think even if he tried to get nagato's eyes it wouldn't work.
 

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This is a good theory. Best way for kishi to keep tobi, madara and nagato fans happy simultaneously xd +rep
 

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yea and that is hwy i think madara wanted it so that he can get nagato master it for him so when madara was revived madara uchiha would get his eye's back like tobi said, the thing is he is an edo so i think even if he tried to get nagato's eyes it wouldn't work.

Itachi mastered tsukiomy but Sasuke still uses Mangekyo Genjutsu despite having Itachi's eyes. Plus if Nagato mastered Rinnegan and gave them to Madara he wld automatically get all the techs and experience without even knowing the tech names? Not so sure about that: Its all to foggy to be sure. But ur theory has merit, rep+ for that.
 

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Itachi mastered tsukiomy but Sasuke still uses Mangekyo Genjutsu. Plus if Nagato mastered Rinnegan and gave them to Madara he wld automatically get all the techs and experience? Not so saure about that. Its all to foggy to be sure. But ur theory has merit, rep+ for that.

it is all about what the eye has like shishu he unlocked the mangekyou sharingan and what is called the ultimate genjutsu which is kotoakatsuki now when danzo took it he had the mangekyou sharingan ability to use since shishu matured it and danzo got the matured version.

thanks though
 

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Madara already knows his rinnegan abilities. Hes just playing peek a boo with the Kages.

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it is all about what the eye has like shishu he unlocked the mangekyou sharingan and what is called the ultimate genjutsu which is kotoakatsuki now when danzo took it he had the mangekyou sharingan ability to use since shishu matured it and danzo got the matured version.

thanks though

But such was not the case for Sasuke (yet) and every dojutsu acts differntly, Ao is able to activate and disactivate byakugan while Sharingan users cant. So we cant be sure. But its a good theory. I myself wondered why Madara never used any of the chakra taxing paths only the easier Rinnegan abilities + Why he needed his Susanoo to amplify his meteor summon . . . These indicates that Madara does not have full mastery.
 

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But such was not the case for Sasuke (yet) and every dojutsu acts differntly, Ao is able to activate and disactivate byakugan while Sharingan users cant. So we cant be sure. But its a good theory. I myself wondered why Madara never used any of the chakra taxing paths only the easier Rinnegan abilities + Why he needed his Susanoo to amplify his meteor summon . . . These indicates that Madara does not have full mastery.

so i just think that when madara fights more with maybe naruto (if he gets stronger) or the others which can really challenge him then he unlock's abilities but you could be right since dojutsu's are different but the rinngean is an evolution to the sharigan so i think it is similar but who knows.

madara said he wanted to kill tsunade there was just to many oppurtunities of it happening and he never used them the same with onoki and the raikage.
 

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so i just think that when madara fights more with maybe naruto (if he gets stronger) or the others which can really challenge him then he unlock's abilities but you could be right since dojutsu's are different but the rinngean is an evolution to the sharigan so i think it is similar but who knows.

madara said he wanted to kill tsunade there was just to many oppurtunities of it happening and he never used them the same with onoki and the raikage.

Madara also wanted to break onoki's heart (WTF did he mean by that?????) . . . . LOL I agree with u in this case. But i think 'the one who knows everything' may tell us everything very soon. (If at least four weeks is soon to u)
 

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Madara also wanted to break onoki's heart (WTF did he mean by that?????) . . . . LOL I agree with u in this case. But i think 'the one who knows everything' may tell us everything very soon. (If at least four weeks is soon to u)

it's summer so it is ok but i just want to learn more about the sage of six path and tobi really is or why he is doing this.
 

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Madara is having a likable moment so try datybayo But a projection of what I could of... ya. Perfect Susasno'o. Not flinching for toes
 
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