Does Kakashi have the "saiyan effect"?

[Kid Kakashi]

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This.

He used to be one of the strongest characters back in Pt. 1, but now he's overshadowed by many others.

SMH screw it, I'm done with this thread. Why are you guys bringing up other shoinobi? The point I am trying to make is, Kakashi always better than when he fought his last opponent, but he never trains.

Kakashi's hair has the "saiyan effect"

LOL nope. Remember his hair was all shaggy when he died? Full saiyans' hair never change it shapes, unless they go super saiyan or ape mode

 

[Kid Kakashi]

I dont have to the databook already tells us all the missions his been on.

Doing missions isn't officially training

Obviously people get stronger when they fight, fighting is the best form of training. However; Saiyans don't just get stronger from fighting, they train, Gohan first achieved SSJ2 while training. Saiyans train much more than Naruto characters, they train 7 days in a week. They derive a lot of their skill from training, while Naruto characters often learn in the heat of battle.

Kakashi doesn't just magically get stronger, or wait for battle, he trains. It is obviously not shown, 3 years of training were skipped. Training doesn't exactly make for a good manga, so Kakashi is never shown training. Obviously Naruto is the exception, as Naruto is the main character.

Gohan is not a full saiyan:sy: Konoha 11 have been the only ones that the manga has said trained in the timeskip, Kakashi hasn't been stated training though. But, perhaps he did to get MS:shrug:

in dbz they dont get stronger just because they battled they get stronger bye near death experiences vegeta explains it on namek.if they battled weaklings like frieza's henchmen they wouldnt get any stronger.

I don't think they have to be near death, but just have good fights

 

[LBeezy]

SMH screw it, I'm done with this thread. Why are you guys bringing up other shoinobi? The point I am trying to make is, Kakashi always better than when he fought his last opponent, but he never trains.


LOL nope. Remember his hair was all shaggy when he died? Full saiyans' hair never change it shapes, unless they go super saiyan or ape mode

Lol ah that's true! I forgot about that! Hahahaha XD

 

[Uchiha Lorenzo15]

i think kakashi is still one of the best because of his way of looking at the battle...... do u guys not remember how he thought of a plan to take down zabuza in the war arc. i thought his fast thinking was pretty epic.

 

[Invsblphntm]

Gohan is not a full saiyan:sy: Konoha 11 have been the only ones that the manga has said trained in the timeskip, Kakashi hasn't been stated training though. But, perhaps he did to get MS:shrug:

When full Saiyans have near death experiences they grow naturally stronger, if thats what you mean. Their bodies grow stronger from them. Normal fights vs weak people obviously doesn't let them get close to a near death experience, which would probably not be much use to them if they want to get stronger.

 

[youngdolce]

I think you've got it backwards, Kakashi trains alot but he still gets outclassed by kids like Naruto and Sasuke.

umm excuse me, kakashi is a kage level shinobi with the ability to dispatch of most foes easily. He is a bonafide genius who has a chance against any opponent due to his talent and intellect. Sorry, naruto and sasuke are both op but they lack the maturity and experience it would take to defeat kakashi. look at the fight with deva path, kakashi deduced his jutsu during the battle and implemented a plan that would have worked had it not been for another path barely breathing. And this was with no information.

 

[ITACHIUCHIA101]

yeah but the harder they push their selves determines if the get stronger and by how much the point i was trying to make is that its not battling that makes them stronger it's experience they gain from tough battles.
i tried to only quote only some of what you said and i admit fail

 

[Naruto9001]

Doing missions isn't officially training


Gohan is not a full saiyan:sy: Konoha 11 have been the only ones that the manga has said trained in the timeskip, Kakashi hasn't been stated training though. But, perhaps he did to get MS:shrug:


I don't think they have to be near death, but just have good fights

Missions increases your battle experience and makes you stronger it's just like trainning.

 

[Kid Kakashi]

umm excuse me, kakashi is a kage level shinobi with the ability to dispatch of most foes easily. He is a bonafide genius who has a chance against any opponent due to his talent and intellect. Sorry, naruto and sasuke are both op but they lack the maturity and experience it would take to defeat kakashi. look at the fight with deva path, kakashi deduced his jutsu during the battle and implemented a plan that would have worked had it not been for another path barely breathing. And this was with no information.

I respect you for defending Kakashi, but Naruto and Sasuke easily solos Kakashi. Their destructive power is too much even for the smartest shinobi

yeah but the harder they push their selves determines if the get stronger and by how much the point i was trying to make is that its not battling that makes them stronger it's experience they gain from tough battles.
i tried to only quote only some of what you said and i admit fail

I guess, experience is everything.

When full Saiyans have near death experiences they grow naturally stronger, if thats what you mean. Their bodies grow stronger from them. Normal fights vs weak people obviously doesn't let them get close to a near death experience, which would probably not be much use to them if they want to get stronger.

Oh, yeah now you're right. That's what I meant. Well, do you think Kakashi gets better after battling tough opponents? He almost died against Kakuzu and did die against Pain.

i think kakashi is still one of the best because of his way of looking at the battle...... do u guys not remember how he thought of a plan to take down zabuza in the war arc. i thought his fast thinking was pretty epic.

Epic indeed. Only Shikamaru, Minato, Shikaku, Neji and Itachi are capable of doing the same

 

[Uchiha Lorenzo15]

umm excuse me, kakashi is a kage level shinobi with the ability to dispatch of most foes easily. He is a bonafide genius who has a chance against any opponent due to his talent and intellect. Sorry, naruto and sasuke are both op but they lack the maturity and experience it would take to defeat kakashi. look at the fight with deva path, kakashi deduced his jutsu during the battle and implemented a plan that would have worked had it not been for another path barely breathing. And this was with no information.

thank you, thats wat im saying, these other guys are just going mainly on power and not how the character himself takes on the battle...... guys like naruto and sasuke try to overpower there opponent before trying to think of a plan. kakashi has it down way before the battle starts.

 

[Sephy100]

My question is how he got MS. What kind of extreme sadness or pain did he go through. Or did he steal someone's eyes lol

 

[Icelerate]

The thing is Kishi will never show people like Kakashi, Sasuke, Itachi or Shikamaru train right in front of our eyes. We mostly see Naruto train and I guess a few other characters.

These types of characters that "don't train"(they do but they don't show) are not shown because the author wants them to look like geniuses who don't need to train especially in Shikamaru's case. Of course Kakashi has been training hard most likely just like every other ninja out there fodder and non fodder. The reason why he keeps on getting chakra boosts is probably the increase in power levels and also the fact his body gets more and more used to the sharingan as time goes on.

 

[Kid Kakashi]

My question is how he got MS. What kind of extreme sadness or pain did he go through. Or did he steal someone's eyes lol

Maybe it's all simple as he has a day where he thought of all the troubles he went through like how a lot of people close to him died(Minato, Sakumo, Obito, Rin, Jiraya, Asuma, his mom) and cried hard then awakened MS?

The thing is Kishi will never show people like Kakashi, Sasuke, Itachi or Shikamaru train right in front of our eyes. We mostly see Naruto train and I guess a few other characters.

These types of characters that "don't train"(they do but they don't show) are not shown because the author wants them to look like geniuses who don't need to train especially in Shikamaru's case. Of course Kakashi has been training hard most likely just like every other ninja out there fodder and non fodder. The reason why he keeps on getting chakra boosts is probably the increase in power levels and also the fact his body gets more and more used to the sharingan as time goes on.

Nicely said man, true stuffxd But Kakashi, Shikamaru, Minato, and Neji really are geniuses

 

[Stark]

Kakashi is being left behind

 

[Uchiha Riyo]

He trains like hell, I mean everyone does, we just don't see it.

 

[SasukeSacrifice]

Kakashi trains alot i think, we dont see it because the story must go on.

And the saiyan wont became automaticly stronger they trained hard and they get a powerboost when they healing from hardly injuries, like a bone that broke and then it will harder on the broken place.