[Discussion] Does God have a plan?

[Multiply]

I personally am not religious(More spiritual) but I still want to pose the following questions. Does God have a plan? If there is a plan, what's the point of praying for a specific outcome if it is or isn't already in the plan? I think it's just to put people at ease for not being in control of their life(In their perspective) and making them think they have a choice.

 

[HENI]

If God existed, he would not have a plan. A PERFECT being wouldn't need to plan things.

 

[DannySenju]

I guess so, since he planned out everything.

 

[LustyLover]

He doesn't have a plan, because he doesn't exist. Oops.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

If God existed, he would not have a plan. A PERFECT being wouldn't need to plan things.

Who says he had to put any thought into it though? God created an imperfect world in the perfect way.

OT: God gives us free will but he knows the outcome (not to say he decides it though). But in the grand scheme of humanity, he does decide it.

 

[Ripple Hole]

Nah, it's up to us clearly...
God's only plan is to send the bad to
Hell after they're done ****ing stuff up,
and good to Heaven after they've finished
deeds

 

[Commander Axe]

God works in mysterious ways, or so they say.

In the bible,God's plan is looked upon as Fate, your destiny and Gods plan are one and the same. So I suppose according to the bible, yes he does.

So I suppose if he did exist we'd all be living according to his plan.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

Obviously this question applies to those who believe in God, or at least think of it hypothetically, for discussion...

 

[Multiply]

Who says he had to put any thought into it though? God created an imperfect world in the perfect way.

OT: God gives us free will but he knows the outcome (not to say he decides it though). But in the grand scheme of humanity, he does decide it.

That literally makes no sense. You can't have free will that sticks to a plan. That means God has already understood every possible occurrence in the timeline of man and it is all predetermined, thus giving us a false sense of free will.

 

[Hyuuga Monrose]

Who says he had to put any thought into it though? God created an imperfect world in the perfect way.

OT: God gives us free will but he knows the outcome (not to say he decides it though). But in the grand scheme of humanity, he does decide it.

Loves this post and totally agree.

And @Electric you sound totally dumb -_-
People can plan ahead and that stuff.
It's not like he planned on how to take the world over or something but how humanity ends and when!

 

[Multiply]

Obviously this question applies to those who believe in God, or at least think of it hypothetically, for discussion...

Also if you believe God has a plan for humanity.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

That literally makes no sense. You can't have free will that sticks to a plan. That means God has already understood every possible occurrence in the timeline of man and it is all predetermined, thus giving us a false sense of free will.

I mean each individual has true free will with some exception like the anti-christ for example. And in order for his plan to carry out, he guides others with free will like prophets. And the end of humanity is planned out.

I can kill the next person to come up to me and that's totally up to me, God won't interfere.

 

[DannySenju]

I feel like a flame war is coming..

 

[Ripple Hole]

That literally makes no sense. You can't have free will that sticks to a plan. That means God has already understood every possible occurrence in the timeline of man and it is all predetermined, thus giving us a false sense of free will.

No, it means that God is almighty and can see all and knows all.
It doesn't mean he's interfering with someone's freewill at all, giving
them a false sense.

It'd be like me watching over ants knowing exactly what they'll do, though
I still have no control over them because they're themselves with their own freedom.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

In regards to prayers, since God knows all, he knows if you're going to pray and at what moment so you could say that's part of the plan but in the end, it's because you prayed, that it was put into the plan.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

If he does, it's our duty to break that plan wherever possible.

 

[kuchiyosenojutsuironmaidn]

I personally am not religious(More spiritual) but I still want to pose the following questions. Does God have a plan? If there is a plan, what's the point of praying for a specific outcome if it is or isn't already in the plan? I think it's just to put people at ease for not being in control of their life(In their perspective) and making them think they have a choice.

The best way to put it (imo) is: When you read a book, do you ever ask if the Author has a plan? Probably not, because you're patient enough to just read the book without trying to edit it. Impatient people pray for things in an attempt to edit life before even finishing the book. There does have to be a God, though. My proof?

Can we make a living organism from scratch?

Can conscience be created?

Can one choose not to be born?

The answer to all three is "no". So something had to incubate the first millions of organisms. Conscience had to stem from somewhere. And someone had to get the ball rolling on birth and death. Just sayin'.

 

[HENI]

Loves this post and totally agree.

And @Electric you sound totally dumb -_-
People can plan ahead and that stuff.
It's not like he planned on how to take the world over or something but how humanity ends and when!

I do? God can see the future. He doesn't need to plan.

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

I do? God can see the future. He doesn't need to plan.

If he acts accordingly after seeing the future, that's planning.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

The best way to put it (imo) is: When you read a book, do you ever ask if the Author has a plan? Probably not, because you're patient enough to just read the book without trying to edit it. Impatient people pray for things in an attempt to edit life before even finishing the book. There does have to be a God, though. My proof?

Can we make a living organism from scratch?

Can conscience be created?

Can one choose not to be born?

The answer to all three is "no". So something had to incubate the first millions of organisms. Conscience had to stem from somewhere. And someone had to get the ball rolling on birth and death. Just sayin'.

That argument just raises the laughable easy counter: Where does a god fit into this? Where did its consciousness come from? If a god doesn't need to have come from anywhere, then it's not unreasonable to say that any other life didn't need a creator.