Does Gaiden Sasuke have more chakra than Jinchuriki Madara?

[Mad Titan Thanos]

Tf? It's common knowledge everyone's chakra grows and get stronger till their prime. VOTE 2 Sasuke wouldn't have been able to open so many portal's to her dimension spam ameno and Susano'o while not being 100% on chakra. How about you try and prove me wrong.

Before Hagoromo buff Sasuke chakra was average and never stated to be nowhere near bijuu level. He was exausted against Gaara,Deidara,Itachi and Danzo fight which proves my point.

And you cant simply go from average chakra to bijuu level chakra. You have to show signs of large reserves from beginning.

You can make progres but not on that level.

Opening portals was something Obito and Sakura could do and Momoshiki too. Kaguya dont open portals she summons another dimension (and open portals too but her Amenominaka is sumoning whole dimension)

 

[ComplexCity]

Madara was Jin yes and absorbed the Shinju tree yes. But I never said Sasuke have more chakra than JJ Madara. Just Sasuke have more than his VOTE 2 self.

When he said that I think he was referring to having access to the Bijuu. But I'm speculating so idk

 

[Nick01]

The level of wank in this thread is unreal...

So from simply growing up, receiving half Hagoromo's chakra and learning to use his rinnegan better Sasuke now has juubi Jin Madara level chakra? Really? Madara had to absorb the juubi/shinju to gain those levels of chakra Sasuke's chakra pool isn't just increasing to that level simply because you guys want it to.

Exactly.
OT : His reserves grew but aren't near Kaguya's, and still under Naruto.

 

[Styles]

Before Hagoromo buff Sasuke chakra was average and never stated to be nowhere near bijuu level. He was exausted against Gaara,Deidara,Itachi and Danzo fight which proves my point.

And you cant simply go from average chakra to bijuu level chakra. You have to show signs of large reserves from beginning.

You can make progres but not on that level.

Opening portals was something Obito and Sakura could do and Momoshiki too. Kaguya dont open portals she summons another dimension (and open portals too but her Amenominaka is sumoning whole dimension)

Except vs Gaara, Gaara ran out of chakra before Sasuke did. Added to the fact he had CM draining his chakra. GS Deidara he had CM draining his chakra and used half to suppress Orochimaru's chakra from taking over same with when he fought Itachi. Vs Danzo Sasuke never ran out of chakra he was just wounded a lot. That proves nothing fam.

Sasuke's chakra have never been average though that's just you. He's been using high level jutsu's left and right and showed no signs of exhaustion till the end of his fight with Naruto. Even before he had six paths chakra he never ran out of chakra.

Obito used his chakra Sakura's and I think a Naruto clone left his chakra with them and even with all of that they couldn't do it continuously and had to struggle to either keep it open or just jump in general. Same as momoshiki.

When he said that I think he was referring to having access to the Bijuu. But I'm speculating so idk

But you can't say that was his base reserves since it was inside of his PS. Now if he absorbed that much chakra that's a different story.

 

[Seventh Sama]

Nope. He apparently has much more chakra than the Hachibii + Momo though :| if I am not mistaken I heard that Momo was drained after crossing dimensions like Sasuke does. And Momo used up most of the chakra pills he got from draining Bee

He said that when he traveled to earth, he used up most of his chakra pills but it's unknown how much he had. He said this after he extracted bee's chakra.

Obito had Sage Chakra himself, along with Naruto Clone, and damn near all of Sakura's chakra. Even then they could barely open the portal for long.

Momoshiki even needed chakra pills.

Don't act like this is a simple jutsu fodders can perform.

Yeah, like a small amount of rikudou chakra and the naruto clone was killed by Kaguya, remember? Sakura has a huge amount of chakra still. Momo has no chakra and needs pills to create it or something like that. Still proof they can open dimensions, do note they had to open portals multiple times.

Ofc, sasuke does a much better job than them but still not proof that he has chakra on the same level as JJ madara.

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

Except vs Gaara, Gaara ran out of chakra before Sasuke did. Added to the fact he had CM draining his chakra. GS Deidara he had CM draining his chakra and used half to suppress Orochimaru's chakra from taking over same with when he fought Itachi. Vs Danzo Sasuke never ran out of chakra he was just wounded a lot. That proves nothing fam.

Sasuke's chakra have never been average though that's just you. He's been using high level jutsu's left and right and showed no signs of exhaustion till the end of his fight with Naruto. Even before he had six paths chakra he never ran out of chakra.

Obito used his chakra Sakura's and I think a Naruto clone left his chakra with them and even with all of that they couldn't do it continuously and had to struggle to either keep it open or just jump in general. Same as momoshiki.

But you can't say that was his base reserves since it was inside of his PS. Now if he absorbed that much chakra that's a different story.

stop with wanking his chakra is 3,5 in databook that cover event until Pain invasion.

And you are basically saying adult Sasuke gained additional chakra amount that equalls bijuus level chakra (Since you are saying it has more chakra than Vote 2) which is nonsense and not worth arguing.

Without some other source person chakra cant grow that much naturally.

 

[ComplexCity]

Except vs Gaara, Gaara ran out of chakra before Sasuke did. Added to the fact he had CM draining his chakra. GS Deidara he had CM draining his chakra and used half to suppress Orochimaru's chakra from taking over same with when he fought Itachi. Vs Danzo Sasuke never ran out of chakra he was just wounded a lot. That proves nothing fam.

Sasuke's chakra have never been average though that's just you. He's been using high level jutsu's left and right and showed no signs of exhaustion till the end of his fight with Naruto. Even before he had six paths chakra he never ran out of chakra.

Obito used his chakra Sakura's and I think a Naruto clone left his chakra with them and even with all of that they couldn't do it continuously and had to struggle to either keep it open or just jump in general. Same as momoshiki.

But you can't say that was his base reserves since it was inside of his PS. Now if he absorbed that much chakra that's a different story.

Well you'd have to define base

 

[shelke]

Well Jin Madara chakra is equal to the Juubi. Which was stated by Naruto. Once Black Zetsu started to drain the IT they became worried. Before that they were confident in beating Madara without the seals.

I assumed that both Naruto and Sasuke = Jin Madara.

Over the time skip I assume Sasuke should have closed the gap, if not supposed it a little.

Possible. He did travel to another dimension in Gaiden.

both Naruto and Sasuke received equal amount of Hagoromo chakra.

Naruto own chakra reserves > Sasuke own chakra reserves

Adding Kurama chakra is stomping

Adding NE like in Vote 2 is overkill

No. Where is it even remotely stated that his base chakra is more than Sasuke's? I'll wait it out:

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Uchihas have naturally enormous reserves. Both the manga and the databook state so:

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Not really, as Sasuke has jumped to Kaguya's dimension; a tech that is taxing for even Kaguya:

Viz's translation is even better, as he searched several dimensions that way:

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And you are talking like it's some HUGE deal, when BM Naruto's reserves and Hashirama's were compared, the latter still had more chakra than him:

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I really really doubt it as NE isn't chakra.

How so? Naruto by genetics alone (being an Uzumaki) has larger chakra pool than Sasuke. Always has. From what I understand Sasuke( being an Uchiha) has a much more potent chakra than Naruto. Did I miss something? :wut:

Or do you think maybe he has increased his chakra reserves from all the traveling and (fighting?) he's been doing while Naruto got kind of doughy behind the Kage desk? I could see this to be honest.

It is never stated in the manga that the Uzumakis have high reserves. They were never even known for that. They were know for their "distinct life force" only:

Viz:

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What the hell? Why is this constantly being censored? It's wee*bly.

"... their lifeforce is as tenacious as a cockroaches."

Not really, they could have increased naturally as he is able to jump dimensions like Kaguya in Gaiden.

 

[Madaras Arm]

This bait thread though loool

Either way, i'll take the bait in case some retard in this thread can't read the manga.

Kaguya switches the entire dimension but Sasuke opens a portal to the dimension, just like Obito did, or when Kaguya opened those dimension portals. Dimension switch =/= Dimension portal

 

[Dondaime Hokage Naruto]

The level of wank in this thread is unreal...

So from simply growing up, receiving half Hagoromo's chakra and learning to use his rinnegan better Sasuke now has juubi Jin Madara level chakra? Really? Madara had to absorb the juubi/shinju to gain those levels of chakra Sasuke's chakra pool isn't just increasing to that level simply because you guys want it to.

The best answer in the thread.

 

[ComplexCity]

Possible. He till travel to another dimension in Gaiden.




No. Where is it even remotely stated that his base chakra is more than Sasuke's? I'll wait it out. Uchihas have naturally enormous reserves. Both the manga and the databook state so:

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Not really, as Sasuke has jumped to Kaguya's dimension; a tech that is taxing for even Kaguya:

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And you are talking like it's some HUGE deal, when BM Naruto's reserves and Hashirama's were compared, the latter still had more chakra than him:

Viz:

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I really really doubt it.



It is never stated in the manga that the Uzumakis have high reserves. They were never even known for that. They were know for their "distinct life force" only:

Viz:

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Not really, they could have increased naturally as he is able to jump dimensions like Kaguya now.

Don't know if you're disagreeing but Naruto houses the 9 Bijuu or parts of them anyway plus Kurama and he has the sages chakara. It was said in the manga that Naruto possessed great reserves as well. You also failed to mentioned that Kaguya was essentially contending with two top tier shinobi with Hagos chakara while manipulating dimensions. Sasuke doesn't posses such a feat


Sasuke doesn't have more chakra than Jin Madara

 

[Mad Titan Thanos]

Possible. He did travel to another dimension in Gaiden.




No. Where is it even remotely stated that his base chakra is more than Sasuke's? I'll wait it out. Uchihas have naturally enormous reserves. Both the manga and the databook state so:



Not really, as Sasuke has jumped to Kaguya's dimension; a tech that is taxing for even Kaguya:


And you are talking like it's some HUGE deal, when BM Naruto's reserves and Hashirama's were compared, the latter still had more chakra than him:

Viz:



I really really doubt it as NE isn't chakra.



It is never stated in the manga that the Uzumakis have high reserves. They were never even known for that. They were know for their "distinct life force" only:

Viz:

http://julywintertheories[/url] dot ****** dot com/uploads/7/0/8/9/7089618/2949043_orig.png

What the hell? Why is this constantly being censored? It's wee*bly.

"... their lifeforce is as tenacious as a cockroaches."

Not really, they could have increased naturally as he is able to jump dimensions like Kaguya in Gaiden.

learn difference between teleporting to other dimension ( Sasuke ability and Kaguya yomotsu hirasaka ) and summoning whole dimension (Kaguya amenominaka).Try again when you learn that.

And Naruto reserves > Sasuke reserves was shown in databook stats

 

[Styles]

stop with wanking his chakra is 3,5 in databook that cover event until Pain invasion.

And you are basically saying adult Sasuke gained additional chakra amount that equalls bijuus level chakra (Since you are saying it has more chakra than Vote 2) which is nonsense and not worth arguing.

Without some other source person chakra cant grow that much naturally.

Dude just stop you're just hating right now and it's sad.

Well you'd have to define base

How's that?

 

[ComplexCity]

Dude just stop you're just hating right now and it's sad.

How's that?

Nver mind. I get what you're saying :lol

However with access to the nine bijuu at the time, I don't Sasuke will be surpassing that

 

[Styles]

Nver mind. I get what you're saying :lol

However with access to the nine bijuu at the time, I don't Sasuke will be surpassing that

Yea but that wasn't his base chakra reserves. And from Boruto movie Sasuke can still make that PS(somewhat).

 

[ComplexCity]

Yea but that wasn't his base chakra reserves. And from Boruto movie Sasuke can still make that PS(somewhat).

Didn't see the movie.

EMS is needed for PS from what I know. Although (due to inconsistency) Uchihas can use parts of Sussano bar ocular dojutsu

 

[Lord Tywin]

I guess Sakura now has as much chakra as jin Madara as she enabled Obito to open up dimensions.

 

[shelke]

Don't know if you're disagreeing but Naruto houses the 9 Bijuu or parts of them anyway plus Kurama and he has the sages chakara. It was said in the manga that Naruto possessed great reserves as well. You also failed to mentioned that Kaguya was essentially contending with two top tier shinobi with Hagos chakara while manipulating dimensions. Sasuke doesn't posses such a feat

Sasuke doesn't have more chakra than Jin Madara

Did I say he does?

Now he does. No one is talking about vote Sasuke. Even he, back then, tried to switch through dimensions that resulted in massive loss of chakra.

learn difference between teleporting to other dimension ( Sasuke ability and Kaguya yomotsu hirasaka ) and summoning whole dimension (Kaguya amenominaka).Try again when you learn that.

And Naruto reserves > Sasuke reserves was shown in databook stats

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Teleporting is also taxing. A Viz translation has also been added.

She doesn't summon anything. What are even talking about?

Amenominaka:

A jutsu used by Kaguya with her "Rinnesharingan". Changes the world around the user and the people around her into another dimension. The dimensions it can move to are ones of lava, ice, gravity, sand, and acid, and these five dimensions are directly linked to (whatever dimension Black Zetsu mentions back when Naruto is there with them. Using it consumes a huge amount of chakra, making it an eye jutsu only she can use.

Pointless reply, when the manga and databook disagree. But please, feel free to write your own fictions that suit you better, as no where in the manga is this bull shit even backed. Like I said, I'll wait for a scan ... after you stop spinning yarns.

 

[Styles]

Didn't see the movie.

EMS is needed for PS from what I know. Although (due to inconsistency) Uchihas can use parts of Sussano bar ocular dojutsu

It was good but kinda rushed imo.

I don't know about that maybe EMS is needed for it but only with rikudou chakra can one use it with MS.

 

[ComplexCity]

Did I say he does?

Now he does. No one is talking about vote Sasuke. Even he, back then, tried to switch through dimensions that resulted in massive loss of chakra.

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Teleporting is also taxing. A Viz translation has also been added.

She doesn't summon anything. What are even talking about?



Pointless reply, when the manga and databook disagree. But please, feel free to write your own fictions that suit you better, as no where in the manga is this bull shit even backed. Like I said, I'll wait for a scan ... after you stop spinning yarns.

The thread is a about Madara. Never said you stated that. Sasuske doesn't have more chakara then a Juubi Jin + the Shinju tree.