Does 'Evil' truly exist in the Narutoverse?

Akasuna

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A few years back while I was pursuing my studies overseas, I was blessed with the opportunity to trade ideas and chat with a very wise and acknowledged man. We both seek professions as authors, with him slightly closer to his end goals than I.

Although we discussed many principles varying from Aristotle's rules regarding dramatic literature to the ideal plot of a story in a Dystopian setting, a particular discussion of ours - specifically his ideals regarding character development - I ponder to this day. In a summarized form, here is his quote:

"Moral Ambiguity is a term I've attributed to represent subjective views whilst developing certain characters designed for Daedal roles in my plots. 'Evil' and 'Good' are subjective terms when used as a scale for a person's actions and when represented in a story it brings a certain level of realism; something that seems morally impure to one crowd would be the norm to another.

This in itself is why I laud works of fiction such as the manga Death Note (In its characters Raito and L) and the book Lord of the Sea (In Prince Haku and Joshua); moral ambiguity is quite frankly near always present in sufficiently developed antagonists: they have a driving reason behind their actions. They aren't evil for the sake of the title, they're attempting to accomplish something, whether that goal is World Domination or simple acknowledgement.

I've observed multiple people on this site who are accustomed to accusing certain characters of being plain 'evil'. As stated previously, evil and good in their traditional definitions regarding morality are null in the fase and creative domain of a good writer.

What I've found even more interesting, however, is how this principle of a reinvigorated moral ambiguity can be paralleled to Taoism's main philosophies.

As we know the story of Ying and Yang in Taoist culture: one cannot exist without the other. They complement each other perfectly; while not only supplementing what the other lacks, it has the perfect balance in its own quantities to not overshadow the other.

As Madara - my personal favorite character in this Manga - once stated, wherever there is Light also exists Shadow.

Taken literally this can be a physical manifestation of the Ying Yang, although I choose to interpret it in a slightly different fashion: good cannot exist without evil. Except, it's impossible to differentiate them to everybody. They both mean different things in everybody's mind. in Taoist metaphysics, good-bad distinctions and other dichimotous moral judgements are perceptual, not real.

It is impossible to talk about yin or yang without some reference to the opposite, since yin and yang are bound together as parts of a mutual whole.

"Kokoro wa dōtoku no asobibadesu."

This roughly translates to "The mind is morality's playground." Morality is subjective.

As previously said, many antagonists receive not the reception I believe they deserve from readers of this manga because they're not understood enough. I've taken the most misunderstood antagonists and attempted to clarify their motives.

  • Orochimaru: One of the most intriguing personalities in this manga for sure, Orochimaru is hard to define. He seems to have an end goal: to learn all the Jutsu of the Shinobi world. But what following that?

    The chapters in the mid 300s swayed me to believe something quite diffferent: he seeks his rebirth. He's displayed a general disdain for the fragility of the average Human Life, and seeks something more.

    His rebirth into, so to speak a world in which he is God. All the Shinobi techniques at his disposal, and near immortality; him finding a white snake near his parents' grave and Hiruzen's explanation of said animal being utilized as a symbol for Rebirth explains his reptilian persona and body shedding.

    He seeks Rebirth.



  • Kabuto: Another intriguing personality, Kabuto was discovered and taken into an orphanage from a young age, while he himself had no memories of his past even directly prior to that event. He grew up unsure of himself - even after being recruited as a Shinobi -, a point that peaked when he unknowingly mortally wounded his 'mother', one of the primary caretakers at his orphanage.

    From here, Orochimaru used his guile and the boy's own uncertainty to convert him into his assistant, promising an identity for the boy. A promise he wasn't able to keep before his untimely sealing by Itachi.

    Kabuto assumed the persona of Orochimaru; he had previously felt confused, but know with his master gone what was preventing him from becoming the next snake master? Except he had evolved past the level of a snake; he believed himself to be a Dragon, the final identity that he had sought for his entire life. Something that he can know himself by.

    He seeks identity.



  • Hidan: The character most often mistaken for plain evil. He kills for his God, and for the physical pleasure it brings him. He finds Solace in physical pain, and it pleases his God. A win-win. Pain is his drug, and Jashin is its supplier.

    He sought the thrill of battle and its rewards.



  • Deidara: Deidara is a more fun character to describe. He lives for his art, and his art alone: to him it is the pinnacle of beauty to send his opponent's organs splattering in different directions. Akatsuki was a mere toy to him, a fraternity he was forced into by the one person who's art he has acknowledged aside from his own. Hasty to defend his 'projects', his most beautiful creation was in the end himself: he truly went out with a bang, and he died for what he believed in.

    He sought Artistic Expression, living for his art and his art alone.



  • Danzo: Danzo is hard to classify. His hesitation was what held him back in his earlier years; from there on his Machiavellian tendencies were born. Despite being denied the seat of Hokage, he still developed the secret Shinobi group 'Root' in the shadows, and taught them his ideals of a shinobi: one who sacrifices their life from the shadows, lives through pain so that others do not have to live through it themselves.

    Except he directly opposed his own ideals; in reality he was a cruel man. He sacrificed the same people he claimed he sought to protect, sabotaged his own village, even went as far as to pull the strings regarding the Uchiha Massacre to some extent, all in the name of 'The greater good'.His final moments wet perhaps his purest; sacrificing his own life to attempt to protect the village. There are many questions still left unanswered in regards to his character, but we know one thing.

    He sought power.



Thanks for reading. I hope my analysis has spurned your curiosity and answered some questions.
 

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No, it doesn't, nor it does in our world. Good and evil are relative things, they are different for everyone, hence there is no absolute definition of evil or good. +rep for analyses though, great job.
 

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I can't think of a character who's motive was specifically to make the lives if others miserable, so no there isn't.

The closest to that would be Nagato. But he felt that through pain and suffering people would find peace.
 

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Exactly, which also explains why a lot of the villains have been "TnJ". However depending on the point of view or from experiences, villains can be perceived as 'evil'. Nice thread.

Anyway have you seen Hunter X Hunter (2011)? You'll really like the villain in the latest arc (Meruem).
 

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No, it doesn't, nor it does in our world. Good and evil are relative things, they are different for everyone, hence there is no absolute definition of evil or good. +rep for analyses though, great job.

Exactly, No one is good or evil it all depends on preceptive, how they grew up and their beliefs.
Itachi said something similar
"People live their lives bound by what they accept as correct and true. That's how they define "reality". But what does it mean to be "correct" or "true"? Merely vague concepts... Their "reality" may all be a mirage. Can we consider them to simply be living in their own world, shaped by their beliefs? " -Uchiha Itachi
 

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I believe some people are born Evil. There is a difference. Or a stage.

1. Bad Guy = Robbers, Beat people up, Lie. (Could Change)

2. Villain = Kill, Steal. (Could be changed or stays the same or turns to Evil)

3. Evil = Just Killing, Stealing, Raping, Has no emotions, No soul. (Can't be changed)

IMO.

But there are also good people, so that's a good thing. ^_^ Bad guys and Villains can turn good. Good can end up Evil. Evil will always remain the same.
 

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Excellent analysis.

Indeed, if you were raised in a society of cannibals, you'd think nothing of it.
 

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No there isnt.. Thats the whole point of naruto, thats the whole point of life, there is no such thing as good or evil, its all a matter of perspective. To truly have a connection is to look at things from anothers point of view.
 

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Exactly, No one is good or evil it all depends on preceptive, how they grew up and their beliefs.
Itachi said something similar
"People live their lives bound by what they accept as correct and true. That's how they define "reality". But what does it mean to be "correct" or "true"? Merely vague concepts... Their "reality" may all be a mirage. Can we consider them to simply be living in their own world, shaped by their beliefs? " -Uchiha Itachi
Exactly this. Another excellence analysis from you, OP.
 

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Having a "reason" to murder people doesn't make it any less evil IMO. Hidan is pretty evil and so is Orochimaru.
 

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Evil is actually described as intending to do vile or malice. Killing someone is intending to do that no matter what reason there is for it.

Sasuke is evil. Pain is evil. Obito is evil. Madara is evil. Orochimaru is evil.

Personally I don't like the idea of trying to excuse the actions of a villain. Evil is evil, having "good" intentions or a reason to cause evil just means that you're not a monster.
 

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i think it does exist but it also depends on who your talking to and where they have their mind and what the have endured
 

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Mh, you're not gonna say that people who kill innocents for fun and pleasure and don't feel anything else aren't evil, just misunderstood, are you?

There are people who are born with no compassion/empathy. They don't necessary become criminals but they aren't bound by morals. Of course, if our society didn't have morals we wouldn't judge anyone for anything, but we do and we have to deal with it.

I myself am a schizoid - not exactly a psychopath since I recognize other's emotions but I also lack compassion and I know I have cruelty within me. I daresay I like watching others suffer and I'm extremely selfish. But I don't kill or hurt anyone on purpose because I don't want trouble with the law. Am I evil? Probably not, but given a chance I would be, and that's just what I am, there's no excuse really. I'd hate it if someone tried to justify me being this way, I'm like that from birth.
 

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Evil is actually described as intending to do vile or malice. Killing someone is intending to do that no matter what reason there is for it.

Sasuke is evil. Pain is evil. Obito is evil. Madara is evil. Orochimaru is evil.

Personally I don't like the idea of trying to excuse the actions of a villain. Evil is evil, having "good" intentions or a reason to cause evil just means that you're not a monster.

I don't see myself attempting to excuse anything. I'm simply trying to understand their motives.

And once again, it all depends on how you define 'vile' or 'malice'. Orochimaru does it for the sake of his research, Obito and Madara do it for the sake of their plan, Pain does it to achieve utter peace, and Sasuke was just confused in the head.

Morality is subjective.
 
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