Does different sage mode have different requirement?

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We know that for Frog sage mode, the user needs a lot of chakra to be able to train for Frog sage mode, but I was wondering what about Dragon Sage mode.

It seems having a lot of chakra isn't the only requirement, there a jutsu in dragon sage mode that requires the user to liquidfy himself to not be affected by his own jutsu and being able to use snake cornea to not be affected by his own jutsu.

Sasuke may have enough chakra to learn how to absorb natural energy to use Dragon Sage mode, but doesn't have the techniques to use Dragon Sage mode to the max.

Sasuke shown he has complete mastery over CS and CS2 and even going as far as being able to use Jugo Senjutsu and combine it with Susano, the only thing Sasuke needs is to learn to absorb Natural energy.
 

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Taught by different masters. Sasuke will never absorb Nature energy unless he does to Naruto what pein did. Then Sasuke will turn into a frog becuz he can't control all that Nature energy.
 

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Taught by different masters. Sasuke will never absorb Nature energy unless he does to Naruto what pein did. Then Sasuke will turn into a frog becuz he can't control all that Nature energy.

Really now?
 

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Taught by different masters. Sasuke will never absorb Nature energy unless he does to Naruto what pein did. Then Sasuke will turn into a frog becuz he can't control all that Nature energy.

Yeah .. Not happening. Orochimaru wanted Sasuke's Body to obtain DSM as well, so Sasuke is capable of learning it.
 

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Taught by different masters. Sasuke will never absorb Nature energy unless he does to Naruto what pein did. Then Sasuke will turn into a frog becuz he can't control all that Nature energy.

Sasuke can handle natural energy unlike Pain so no
 

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Taught by different masters. Sasuke will never absorb Nature energy unless he does to Naruto what pein did. Then Sasuke will turn into a frog becuz he can't control all that Nature energy.

Yeah .. Not happening. Orochimaru wanted Sasuke's Body to obtain DSM as well, so Sasuke is capable of learning it.
 

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Yes different SM's have different requirements since their summoning places are different. FSM requires you to absorb a lot of energy to be able to do it. Naruto can also create Shadow Clones for reserves in case the original is losing chakra.

For DSM, Kabuto was able to awaken it in the Ryuchi Cave and met the Snake Sage, there it was stated that he had to train under different requirements and one of them was the cornea to not be affected by his own genjutsu, Sasuke cannot master DSM because now he has 2 contracts and Orochimaru stated that he left being as a Snake. He still needs another person to give him SM as he cannot do it by himself because he is the reincarnation of Indra who powers come from the eyes. Its something Sasuke cannot copy and learn he has to meet the master like Oro and Kabuto.
 

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Taught by different masters. Sasuke will never absorb Nature energy unless he does to Naruto what pein did. Then Sasuke will turn into a frog becuz he can't control all that Nature energy.

Madara was able to absorb Hashirama Sage Mode and make it his own without any draw back, Sasuke would be the same since Sasuke knows how to control Senjutsu, only thing Sasuke lack is absorbing by himself.

Although Couldn't Sasuke gather Natural energy for Sage mode with his Rinnengan, I mean natural energy is everywhere.
 

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If sAsuke could he would have done it to save The world but he didnt
 

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We know that for Frog sage mode, the user needs a lot of chakra to be able to train for Frog sage mode, but I was wondering what about Dragon Sage mode.

It seems having a lot of chakra isn't the only requirement, there a jutsu in dragon sage mode that requires the user to liquidfy himself to not be affected by his own jutsu and being able to use snake cornea to not be affected by his own jutsu.

Sasuke may have enough chakra to learn how to absorb natural energy to use Dragon Sage mode, but doesn't have the techniques to use Dragon Sage mode to the max.

Sasuke shown he has complete mastery over CS and CS2 and even going as far as being able to use Jugo Senjutsu and combine it with Susano, the only thing Sasuke needs is to learn to absorb Natural energy.
Sasukes to OP let's not over power him further. And dragons shit on toads it's the pinnacle of sage mode as Kabuto stated he was closet to the six paths ye even demonstrated a yang release.
 

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Really now?

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Yeah .. Not happening. Orochimaru wanted Sasuke's Body to obtain DSM as well, so Sasuke is capable of learning it.

DSM is different
Sasuke can handle natural energy unlike Pain so no

Proof of this? Juugo ran senjutsu threw his susanoo that doesn't prove Sasuke can handle nature energy juugo did it all for him. Sasuke didn't even know about senjutsu. When naruto entered SM Sasuke was so shocked/surprised he didn't know what was happening. Proof he doesn't know about senjutsu.

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Madara was able to absorb Hashirama Sage Mode and make it his own without any draw back, Sasuke would be the same since Sasuke knows how to control Senjutsu, only thing Sasuke lack is absorbing by himself.

Although Couldn't Sasuke gather Natural energy for Sage mode with his Rinnengan, I mean natural energy is everywhere.

Sasuke knows how to control senjutsu? Can you post some proof of that? That's new to me.
 
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Yes really now


DSM is different


Proof of this? Juugo ran senjutsu threw his susanoo that doesn't prove Sasuke can handle nature energy juugo did it all for him. Sasuke didn't even know about senjutsu. When naruto entered SM Sasuke was so shocked/surprised he didn't know what was happening. Proof he doesn't know about senjutsu.



Sasuke knows how to control senjutsu? Can you post some proof of that? That's new to me.

Sure thing I post prove, I just need to find the chapter.
 

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Madara was able to absorb Hashirama Sage Mode and make it his own without any draw back, Sasuke would be the same since Sasuke knows how to control Senjutsu, only thing Sasuke lack is absorbing by himself.

Although Couldn't Sasuke gather Natural energy for Sage mode with his Rinnengan, I mean natural energy is everywhere.

that's because he already awaken the rinnegan, so he was not an indra's transmigrant anymore. he was more of a hogoromo and going towards being a kaguya.

the proof is that he HAD to absorb it from hashirama in order to keep it... he was not able to mold it himself from nature around him, that's the proof right there that he cannot have learnerd it himself, just like sasuke could never learn it himself.

and to the people that said orochimaru wanted sasuke for DSM, that's bull, because he said that he wanted him for HIS EYES, where if he had those eyes, DSM would never compare, and would be of no use to him.
 

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I found this chapter which says Sasuke is good at the curse seal because of being able to do partial transformation

Here it explains that CS is Senjutsu

Those who couldn't handle CS would either die or explose which ever came first.

In part 1 when Sasuke was new to curse seal, the curse seal would erode Sasuke mind and body stated here which then Sasuke states here

In Part 2 Sasuke has no such issue with the Curse Seal corroding his body.

@kesonfire sorry I didn't quote you, I forgot. Just incase if this isn't the prove you meant then there no prove.
 

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All Sage Modes have the same requirements with minimal variations. All forms require large amounts of chakra and proper and effective control to gather natural energy to harness with chakra to attain SM. Though the characteristics they provide are different. And additional abilities can be used.

BTW, Kabuto's SM had nothing to do with liquification. It was Suigetsu's ability he just had in addition. He will still be able to attain SM without his ability.
 
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Taught by different masters. Sasuke will never absorb Nature energy unless he does to Naruto what pein did. Then Sasuke will turn into a frog becuz he can't control all that Nature energy.

And what's your damn point?
 

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All Sage Modes have the same requirements with minimal variations. All forms require large amounts of chakra and proper and effective control to gather natural energy to harness with chakra to attain SM. Though the characteristics they provide are different. And additional abilities can be used.

BTW, Kabuto's SM had nothing to do with liquification. It was Suigetsu's ability he just had in addition. He will still be able to attain SM without his ability.

If Kabuto didn't have liquification yes he be able to use DSM but woudln't be able to to the jutsu which affects the body of everyone.
 
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