[Discussion] Does Destiny degrade Naruto's Character?

Straw Hat Zoro

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Does Destiny degrade Naruto's character? Many people have argued in the past that Naruto having the nine tails has degraded his character. But know with this revelation that Naruto is in essence this generations Ashura does that take away even more from the original Naruto character many fell in love with? What I mean by this is many fell in love with the underdog aspect of Naruto's character that whole idea that hard work will surpass genetics or genius in the long run. But with this revelation that he had Ashura with him all along does it take away that underdog aspect of his character? I understand when comparing him or talking about a fight between him and Sasuke even with Ashura the underdog thing works. Because of the fact Sasuke will most likely be Indra. But when you compare him to almost anyone else in the story that doesn't imply anymore.

So does Destiny degrade Naruto in your eyes?
 
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He's the reincarnation of a loser who had to work hard for everything. I'm not seeing how this degrades his character.
 

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It does degrade his character in my eyes. And it even degrades Sasukes character, he isn't a genius on his own now, he was influenced by Indra apparently.
 

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It doesn't degrade his character though it is kind of a contradiction if he's an underdog and the child of prophecy simultaneously.
 

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He's the reincarnation of a loser who had to work hard for everything. I'm not seeing how this degrades his character.

Yeah, the ability to work hard is such a despicable quality to have...

The kids of today really make me worry.
 

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Naruto being Ashura's reincarnation recreates what a lot of people admired about Naruto, his hard-working ethic.

If you think about it, people did jump on the idea of him being Hagoromo's reincarnation too quickly and easily. After all, a few lumps of sentient chakra saying it is hardly a fact.
 

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A little because in part one he was saying to Neji that you make your own destiny
 

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I don't think that degrades his character. It's just another parallel in the series.
 

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You don't have a slightest idea of what reincarnation here means,do you?

And one just simply not remain an underdog all his life,his hard work paid off and made him everything people call him now.
 

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@Tobi98

And he created his destiny with his own hard work. Your point?
 

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Yes , a little bit , I agree.
But I expect him and Sasuke to be stronger than their "ghosts" , to reverse that effect.
 

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He is a underdog when compared to Sasuke,Madara and 1st kage but when compared to others he far outclasses them and its always been his destiny to do so.

-People forget he was born with amazing chakra ,amazing stamina and a great body in general.

-He got to keep trying and trying after failure because his body would never give in.Thats something Lee, Neji, shikamaru(etc) don't have the benefit to have.

Hard work/strong will and the body of a god shinobi....yeah he was blessed.
 

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Wut? You trollin'?

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The Sage himself said he was useless...

Useless as in combat/ninja not as tactician useless as he sucked in totality.
He is the body of the sage.


that means great chakra, great stamina, great healing, great life force
 
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