Does anyone know what EMS abilities Madara might have had apart from Perfect Susano'o

[SilverfoxUchiha]

I know that EMS Madara is now a thing of the past as he has now totally powered up and become host of not only the Juubi, but also the Juubi-Tree (Including Kaguya Chakra?), however... has anyone figured out what Madaras two Mangekyo Abilities were (other than Perfect Susanoo)?

As I understand, in order for an Uchiha to awaken their Susanoo ability, they would need to have unlocked two Mangekyo Sharingan abilities first.

In Itachis case these were Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi . I can even imagine that had Obito not given Kakashi his eye then Obito himself would have himself awakened his Susanoo as he had both Kamui (long range and close range) and his ability to phase through objects . Same with Shisui , who had his Instant Teleportation technique as well as KotoAmatsukami .

Did Kishi just overlook this in Madaras case?? Did Madara become Leader of the Uchihas on base abilities alone?? How did he unlock Perfect Susanoo? Was it all down to Izunas eyes? (much like how Sasuke only unlocked his Susanoo after taking Itachis eyes). Loooool have i answered my own question? heh hehe but if so, that would then mean Madara became Leader of the Uchihas based off of his skills alone and not based off of OP Doujutsu... just a thought.

 

[Blubbit]

Amaterasu....Tsukyomi.....since unlocking those two are required to unlock Susanoo.

Other than that, no clue.

 

[-immortal-]

Or madara simply didn't have those *techs*

 

[xXMadaraUchiaXx]

would it be amateratsu he would have grilled the kages because its fun

 

[Booker]

Madara did not have amaterasu or tsukuyomi. They are not required for Susano'o, that is wrong.

The only requirement for Susano'o is an MS in each eye, hence why Obito was unable to use Susano'o.

 

[SilverfoxUchiha]

Madara did not have amaterasu or tsukuyomi. They are not required for Susano'o, that is wrong.

The only requirement for Susano'o is an MS in each eye, hence why Obito was unable to use Susano'o.

I didnt say he needed to have Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi specifically (read the thread properly). Also, it is more than just having the MS in each eye, although that is a part of it. The two abilities need to be unlocked first in order to awaken Susanoo. Obito may have awakened it because he already had two MS abilities (Kamui and Phasing through Objects) as i have stated above, however yes he'd have needed both eyes in order to awaken Susanoo (but he did also have his own two abilities first).

 

[sv121]

I know that EMS Madara is now a thing of the past as he has now totally powered up and become host of not only the Juubi, but also the Juubi-Tree (Including Kaguya Chakra?), however... has anyone figured out what Madaras two Mangekyo Abilities were (other than Perfect Susanoo)?

As I understand, in order for an Uchiha to awaken their Susanoo ability, they would need to have unlocked two Mangekyo Sharingan abilities first.

In Itachis case these were Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi . I can even imagine that had Obito not given Kakashi his eye then Obito himself would have himself awakened his Susanoo as he had both Kamui (long range and close range) and his ability to phase through objects . Same with Shisui , who had his Instant Teleportation technique as well as KotoAmatsukami .

Did Kishi just overlook this in Madaras case?? Did Madara become Leader of the Uchihas on base abilities alone?? How did he unlock Perfect Susanoo? Was it all down to Izunas eyes? (much like how Sasuke only unlocked his Susanoo after taking Itachis eyes). Loooool have i answered my own question? heh hehe but if so, that would then mean Madara became Leader of the Uchihas based off of his skills alone and not based off of OP Doujutsu... just a thought.

sasuke unlocked his susanoo much before taking itachi's eyes.Madara's case is pretty tricky. To get susanoo,u need to awake the ms in both eyes.Thats all

 

[kyuuubi]

Susanoo and may be that meteor jutsu.

 

[chad062388]

Plot hole it seems...

 

[sv121]

I didnt say he needed to have Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi specifically (read the thread properly). Also, it is more than just having the MS in each eye, although that is a part of it. The two abilities need to be unlocked first in order to awaken Susanoo. Obito may have awakened it because he already had two MS abilities (Kamui and Phasing through Objects) as i have stated above, however yes he'd have needed both eyes in order to awaken Susanoo (but he did also have his own two abilities first).

obito is phasing through objects using kamui only.So its not 2 ms abilities.Its only one ability

 

[SilverfoxUchiha]

sasuke unlocked his susanoo much before taking itachi's eyes.Madara's case is pretty tricky. To get susanoo,u need to awake the ms in both eyes.Thats all

Then i'm going to put it down as a Plot hole. I'm sure earlier in the manga Itachi had said that the two Mangekyo Sharingan abilities were needed to awaken the third (Susanoo) ability.

Meh.... Plot No Jutsu plotholes and TNJ *****azzness -__-

 

[Cauzing]

I know that EMS Madara is now a thing of the past as he has now totally powered up and become host of not only the Juubi, but also the Juubi-Tree (Including Kaguya Chakra?), however... has anyone figured out what Madaras two Mangekyo Abilities were (other than Perfect Susanoo)?

As I understand, in order for an Uchiha to awaken their Susanoo ability, they would need to have unlocked two Mangekyo Sharingan abilities first.

In Itachis case these were Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi . I can even imagine that had Obito not given Kakashi his eye then Obito himself would have himself awakened his Susanoo as he had both Kamui (long range and close range) and his ability to phase through objects . Same with Shisui , who had his Instant Teleportation technique as well as KotoAmatsukami .

Did Kishi just overlook this in Madaras case?? Did Madara become Leader of the Uchihas on base abilities alone?? How did he unlock Perfect Susanoo? Was it all down to Izunas eyes? (much like how Sasuke only unlocked his Susanoo after taking Itachis eyes). Loooool have i answered my own question? heh hehe but if so, that would then mean Madara became Leader of the Uchihas based off of his skills alone and not based off of OP Doujutsu... just a thought.

The ability to phase through objects is Kamui. Just pefected

 

[Sentinel of Light Style]

I asked the same thing in some other thread the other day. Also, Shisui uses the Shunshin, this is not an MS technique! pretty much anyone in the ANBU has been shown using the Shunshin.

 

[Cauzing]

Then i'm going to put it down as a Plot hole. I'm sure earlier in the manga Itachi had said that the two Mangekyo Sharingan abilities were needed to awaken the third (Susanoo) ability.

Meh.... Plot No Jutsu plotholes and TNJ *****azzness -__-

He did say that. And that's how it is. Before we saw Sasuke using Susano'o. He used amaterasu and used tsukoyomi (which didn't work) on Killerbee

 

[SilverfoxUchiha]

obito is phasing through objects using kamui only.So its not 2 ms abilities.Its only one ability

I seriously counted them as two techniques although i am aware he sends his body parts to the kamui dimension. Fair enough.

So i rest my case heh hehehe MADARA NEEDED NO OP DOUJUTSU MOVES TO BECOME POWERFUL ENOUGH TO LEAD THE UCHIHA CLAN AND BECOME ONE OF THE STRONGEST SHINOBI OF ALL TIME heh hehehe EVEN THOUGH AS WE KNOW, HASHIRAMA HAD ALWAYS BEEN BLESSED WITH MOKUTON FROM THE VERY BEGINNING AS IT WAS HIS KEKKE GENKAI (this is for all those who say the Uchihas spam their eyes and dont have to work for what they have, and i have heard it alot).

Looool (feels good when you land on your feet lmao)

 

[EmbraceNixFifty]

Amaterasu
Tsukyomi

 

[dms_kakashi]

shishui's ms:
one which danzo used on mifune
one which itachi used on himself