Does anyone else not like Kishi portrays the Uchiha as the source of hatred?

[mikeeozua]

As Minato stated earlier, every ninja battles against hatred in the ninja world. But why is it that the Uchiha are being glorified for this? So if the Uchiha are fine the rest of the Shinobi world is? What about people like Nagato or Oro who aren't Uchiha? There could easily be more people like them. I just don't like how Kishi is kind of showing that the Uchiha are the reason for everything. Sasuke starts up the Uchiha again and everything's fine is it? What about other Shinobi fighting hatred? Sorry if this comes off as a rant, but it's just my opinion.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

Madara, Itachi, Sasuke, Uchihas being the clan most likely to be consumed by hatred, etc...

 

[Gdamon]

Not the source, but fueled by hatred born from love...

 

[Cosman]

It was acceptable before he went in and made their "curse of hatred" some genetic thing. Lazy way for Kishi to absolve them of their shit and pin a lot of the world's issues on that clan.

Even people like Nagato trace their hatred and anger to the Uchiha clan in some way. And Orochimaru is one of the few that has his evil demeanor traced to something non-Uchiha related. The rest are either not touched up on enough, or play very little part in the series.

 

[Uchiha Josephus]

They weren't the beginning of hatred, they just took it to the next level because of their intense emotions.

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

the source of hatred came from the sage he had 2 sons as the juubi jin so maybe the juubis anger /hate for humanity went into the 1st born while the 2nd son got the sage's love who knows???

 

[Yo pappy]

I blame the older son. He just couldn't handle the butthurt.

 

[Uchiha Josephus]

the source of hatred came from the sage he had 2 sons as the juubi jin so maybe the juubis anger /hate for humanity went into the 1st born while the 2nd son got the sage's love who knows???

False - there were already wars going on before the Sage and before chakra was a thing.

 

[ricotyrone]

I think that it's just easier for him to use the Uchiha since he established them as a very war-like people. He made the Uchiha famous for being powerful and thus enviable, and because everybody looks up to the Uchiha for their being natural-born genius shinobi due to their traditions as well as their blood born sharingan ability, they see themselves as superior to all other clans/tribes/etc.
Typically when a group or individual gets too much power, they become a source of conflict. And as we've seen in past issues, other clans steal individuals in order to obtain their techniques or abilities - so here we have a clan, born with natural enhanced ability, inflated egos (much like Neji and the Byakugan), and everybody wants their sharingan for their own selfish desires - why wouldn't the Uchiha look down upon others and hate those who would subjugate them or use them as tools?

 

[mikeeozua]

I blame the older son. He just couldn't handle the butthurt.

You never know, maybe it was the same situation as Hashirama and Madara and he felt betrayed by his people.

 

[paratise]

It was acceptable before he went in and made their "curse of hatred" some genetic thing. Lazy way for Kishi to absolve them of their shit and pin a lot of the world's issues on that clan.

Even people like Nagato trace their hatred and anger to the Uchiha clan in some way. And Orochimaru is one of the few that has his evil demeanor traced to something non-Uchiha related. The rest are either not touched up on enough, or play very little part in the series.

Agreed with the bolded part as if the author placed a plot device in Uchihas minds so that would be the explaination of their emotions and actions.

 

[Yo pappy]

You never know, maybe it was the same situation as Hashirama and Madara and he felt betrayed by his people.

According to the backstory we got from Obito it had nothing to do with his clan, and everything to do with not being chosen by his father. Personally, I think he was just jelly, and I'm willing to bet even if the Sage chose him to be his successor he would've still tried to take out his brother.

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

False - there were already wars going on before the Sage and before chakra was a thing.

i meant the famous hatred not everyday hate the uchiha hate is supposedly legendary and contagious

 

[Xlad]

Maybe Kishi is a being a lazy-ass. I mean Itachi, Shisui, Kagami, and Itachi/Sasuke's parents weren't like that. Yet he doesn't develop them like he should. It's easier to put it on the whole clan.

 

[Uchiha Josephus]

i meant the famous hatred not everyday hate the uchiha hate is supposedly legendary and contagious

Again - it's because of their emotions

 

[mikeeozua]

Maybe Kishi is a being a lazy-ass. I mean Itachi, Shisui, Kagami, and Itachi/Sasuke's parents weren't like that. Yet he doesn't develop them like he should. It's easier to put it on the whole clan.

Izuna wasn't like that either as I'm aware.

 

[theacknowledgedone]

I actually don't think its a bad portrayal at all but that's just my opinion as well. Try to compare it to our lives; ethnicity, religion, and many others have all become a very sensitive subject to some people more than others. If a particular group is known for their strong beliefs and someone takes that away or says something negative about that they become enraged and don't think logically. They can actually lose sight of whats right and wrong because of it. Therefore, their eyes become closed to other options and won't direct off that path to see another persons view. The uchiha are that particular group who respond on impulse and emotions in this case. They have a firm belief for love and friendship and when that's taken away they become mentally unstable seeing things differently. Not everyone is affected by a particular curse, some have an open mind such as Itachi or Shisui. They were some of the few who kept an open mind and tried to change the way of the clan because he saw things differently and after comparing those to his own he understood power wasn't the way. However, he ran out of time and because of that hatred still continues.

Orochimaru and Nagato are just examples of another case, basically implying that the curse of hatred can effect anyone if provoked in the wrong way. When someone takes something important from you it can change your entire view on life, and you either give up or move on. That's my view on it.

 

[realobito1]

I don't think they are the source of hate. They had a lot of hate and for good reason. They were in a village that did not trust them and then got offed by that village whent they wanted to fight back. Sasuke has a right to hate the village as much as the the village has a right to off the uchiha but no matter how you look at it the uchiha clan is filled with hate. Word for itachi: no matter how sought after you are in the beginning people will begin to despise you. This pretty much speaks to the whole uchiha were very powerful and because of that had to be eliminated when they could not be trusted.

 

[awesomeseimei]

Well, it also irritates me how Kishi portrays Naruto's and, say, Kakashi's ninja ways as the right ones (never giving up durr, protecting your comrades durr), while showing those who follow the actual Shinobi Rules (

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[Anorien16]

Well everythings IS kinda the Elder Son's fault .... If he had balanced the Younger son's weaknesses with his own strength (Just like Tobirama balanced Hashirama soft nature) imagine what the would would have been, instead he began a nonsensical feud which sapped both the bloodlines of their strength which otherwise could have been used to 'stop all conflict' just like their grandmother was able to do ...