Does anyone else ever feel like the zero mortals plan was good?

[chaos control]

^^^This.

The infinite tsukuyomi would be my first choice for peace, but then sometimes I feel like total eradication of humanity would be a good secondary option. Especially if the eradication could be painless (like everyone just getting erased suddenly, both body and soul). Sometimes I also feel like it would be better if humans had not been created.

This may seem like a bad thing, but what would really be the consequence of it all? Nobody would actually be hurt.

Well nevermind all that. I just wanted to blow off some steam. That is just my dark side talking (except for the infinite tsukuyomi part, even my light side agrees with that).

Anyway, to make this thread about something Naruto related:

What do you think that Sarada will do if/when she finds out about the truth about the Uchiha clan and its history/fate? This is something that I have been thinking about, and I watched a YouTube video about it today.

What do you guys think?

 

[Obito the supreme jin]

Sarada would make amends and rewrite the Uchihas name. It won't be a clan that was scoffed at or hated upon, everyone will respect that clan. As Hokage I believe she will be able to shoulder that responsibility. She would move on as a rational person. She is also not that emotional. The Uchiha clan now (Boruto's childhood times) is also respected but she will make it widely known and maybe like old times, the Leaf Village will get more Uchiha monuments. The Uchihas will be respected from outside villages and villagers.

She might even make it known to the public that Danzo and his goons were the ones that were opressing the Uchihas and that it is her right to correct the wrongdoings of her predecessors.

 

[Reboryushon]

Did you even read Naruto Manga? IT had its purpose in order to nurter the tree to blossom the chakra fruit and then all the humans trapped by it will eventually be turned into Zetsus, this equals the erradication of Naruto Verse humans.

She would/will accept it and carry the will of Itachi.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Sasuke's plan was the best it found a workable balance, he should've talked to Madara and convinced him of it.

With the way the new series is going and Sarada's goal I don't see her doing much.

 

[uhmusddy]

The zero mortals plan wasn’t painless

Infinity Snap is though

 

[Azarath Metrion Zinthos]

Did you even read Naruto Manga? IT had its purpose in order to nurter the tree to blossom the chakra fruit and then all the humans trapped by it will eventually be turned into Zetsus, this equals the erradication of Naruto Verse humans.

She would/will accept it and carry the will of Itachi.

Doesn't creating a new even more sinister race defeat the purpose of eradicating the current one that is capable of no more than empty emotions void of self-reflective feelings? Like all sinister plans, there always is a secondary plan that within which lies an even sinister plan, and the creation of the Zetsu army to prepare for the imminent Otsutsuki clan members was actually the core center of the entire plan. Kaguya may have been the real brains behind it all, but something tells me Black Zetsu wanted to have command over that army and hoped in it succeeding against the Otsutsuki along with Kaguya he would be able to take over Kaguya and have all of the power to himself. Apart from that hypothetical scenario, I venture to think that the IT thing wasn't really the plan, it was just the facade so the Uchiha that would amass the prerequisite power wouldn't think twice casting IT. Kaguya, though, had good intentions with IT, amongst the selfish pursuit of reuniting with her rightful chakra.

 

[Reboryushon]

Doesn't creating a new even more sinister race defeat the purpose of eradicating the current one that is capable of no more than empty emotions void of self-reflective feelings? Like all sinister plans, there always is a secondary plan that within which lies an even sinister plan, and the creation of the Zetsu army to prepare for the imminent Otsutsuki clan members was actually the core center of the entire plan. Kaguya may have been the real brains behind it all, but something tells me Black Zetsu wanted to have command over that army and hoped in it succeeding against the Otsutsuki along with Kaguya he would be able to take over Kaguya and have all of the power to himself. Apart from that hypothetical scenario, I venture to think that the IT thing wasn't really the plan, it was just the facade so the Uchiha that would amass the prerequisite power wouldn't think twice casting IT. Kaguya, though, had good intentions with IT, amongst the selfish pursuit of reuniting with her rightful chakra.

Fix your text Uverdore, i ain't reading that crap.

 

[Azarath Metrion Zinthos]

Fix your text Uverdore, i ain't reading that crap.

I won't try to fix you up on that misconception, as I have no intention of a prolonged argument on why I'm not the member you're claiming I am. Anyway, it's no comment you have to read fully, a perusal would be enough to grasp the idea, if you ever did that in High School.

 

[chaos control]

Did you even read Naruto Manga? IT had its purpose in order to nurter the tree to blossom the chakra fruit and then all the humans trapped by it will eventually be turned into Zetsus, this equals the erradication of Naruto Verse humans.

She would/will accept it and carry the will of Itachi.

Chill dude. Yes I read the Naruto manga.

I meant that infinite tsukuyomi would be best if it weren't for the white Zetsu transformations and the existence of the Otsutsuki. In other words, I was referring to the philosophical side of infinite tsukuyomi (Madara's ideology), and I thought this was simply implied within my OP.

Apparently for you, this wasn't implied as well as I thought. My oversight. However just because you don't get a certain implication, doesn't mean that someone totally didn't read the manga.

 

[salamander uchiha]

Fix your text Uverdore, i ain't reading that crap.

Zack's not Uver I can vouch for him.

 

[Kakooli]

everyone's in IT right now...boruto events are all a dream which will turn into infinite nightmare soon...

only kishi can end teh dream/nightmare called boruto when he pick up his pencil n decide to draw naruto part 3 again...and yes tobidara gonna be teh main villain!!!!

 

[Azarath Metrion Zinthos]

Chill dude. Yes I read the Naruto manga.

I meant that infinite tsukuyomi would be best if it weren't for the white Zetsu transformations and the existence of the Otsutsuki. In other words, I was referring to the philosophical side of infinite tsukuyomi (Madara's ideology), and I thought this was simply implied within my OP.

Apparently for you, this wasn't implied as well as I thought. My oversight. However just because you don't get a certain implication, doesn't mean that someone totally didn't read the manga.

Still a fake reality, it's no better than sleeping all day and thinking that you won't have to wake up tomorrow to write the test just because you slept all those hours instead of tried to study. I know IT could have been a catalyst change, but then eventually, someone would have stopped it, so either way it wouldn't have been permanent. It would be a temporary bliss like all dreams are, except the shinobi would probably be dead by the time the IT had absorbed all of their chakra supply.

 

[chaos control]

Sasuke's plan was the best it found a workable balance, he should've talked to Madara and convinced him of it.

With the way the new series is going and Sarada's goal I don't see her doing much.

How would it really work though? Sure he'd be the world's enemy, but I don't see how that would solve everything.

Nations fight wars over many reasons:

Economic reasons/National debt
Geographical/Natural resources (maybe one country needs land for farming and food, and they are willing to go to war for it)
The desire for conquest and imperialism
Racial tensions
Types of government (ie. One nation not liking communism while another might hate capitalism, etc...)
Religious wars

Etc...

Now I see how Sasuke's plan could help temporarily quell some of these issues for a short time (ie. Nations could peacefully share food and resources for awhile if a war against Sasuke was waged).

However, I don't think that people would be so focused on hating Sasuke for all of eternity that they would forget about their other issues. Eventually, if they couldn't kill Sasuke after too long, then people would return to their normal lives, while just keeping an eye out for Sasuke, or having a few select teams of people focus on tracking him down and killing him (kind of like what the U.S did against Bin Laden).

In order to keep the focus on him and not on their normal issues, Sasuke would probably have to regularly carry out purges where he kills enough people to rouse enough anger.

This in my opinion would result in way too much death.

Madara's plan may have caused a lot of deaths, but remember that the war only spanned over 2 days.

With Sasuke's plan, we are talking about an eternity of repeated purges.

 

[chaos control]

Still a fake reality, it's no better than sleeping all day and thinking that you won't have to wake up tomorrow to write the test just because you slept all those hours instead of tried to study. I know IT could have been a catalyst change, but then eventually, someone would have stopped it, so either way it wouldn't have been permanent. It would be a temporary bliss like all dreams are, except the shinobi would probably be dead by the time the IT had absorbed all of their chakra supply.

I'm saying without the existence of the Otsutsuki though and without the white Zetsu transformations.

Therefore, in this case, the dream would never end. In turn, it would become reality. Nobody would stop it because there would be nobody left to stop it.

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

And now I understand why it isn't Sonic in your avatar...

 

[Azarath Metrion Zinthos]

I'm saying without the existence of the Otsutsuki though and without the white Zetsu transformations.

Therefore, in this case, the dream would never end. In turn, it would become reality. Nobody would stop it because there would be nobody left to stop it.

Dreams are still what they are in the end, dreams. Eventually, you have to wake up, and even if in this hypothetical scenario, there is no waking up, it's even worse, because the dreamers do nothing of their own free will. They live inside a manufactured world of which the creator is some tree that doesn't really want to do shit for them other than sustain itself through feeding off their chakra. It's all the worse if your own world depends on some tree, and your entire feelings are manifested through the existence of that tree. That might as well be your Kami since it controls your 5 senses and worse, is surviving off of your life-force.

 

[InfiniteMugen]

If humans had not been created you wouldn’t know if it would of been better if they hadn’t been created. Plus, we wouldn’t have cars...or pizza

 

[Reboryushon]

I won't try to fix you up on that misconception..

Then you wrote and quoted me for nothing. You are boring af btw and i won't read your stuff.

Zack's not Uver I can vouch for him.

Ok. I saw a Salamander this weekend btw, thought about calling her Uchiha. I even giggled alone.

 

[Star Child]

^^^This.

The infinite tsukuyomi would be my first choice for peace, but then sometimes I feel like total eradication of humanity would be a good secondary option. Especially if the eradication could be painless (like everyone just getting erased suddenly, both body and soul). Sometimes I also feel like it would be better if humans had not been created.

This may seem like a bad thing, but what would really be the consequence of it all? Nobody would actually be hurt.

Well nevermind all that. I just wanted to blow off some steam. That is just my dark side talking (except for the infinite tsukuyomi part, even my light side agrees with that).

Anyway, to make this thread about something Naruto related:

What do you think that Sarada will do if/when she finds out about the truth about the Uchiha clan and its history/fate? This is something that I have been thinking about, and I watched a YouTube video about it today.

What do you guys think?

I think Sarada won't be too personally affected by the knowledge, but, as has been suggested, she may feel some type of pressure to try and change the reputation for the better.

I don't know if that will be the driving force in her character's motivation.

 

[dolph4]

it was painless...