Dodai takes shots @ the Gauntlet

[EZQ]

Dodai > Asuma: Low-Mid
Dodai > Jugo: Mid
Dodai > Suigetsu: Low-Mid (traps him inside rubber ball, Suigetsu can't get out.
Dodai > Sakura: Mid-High (she can't get out of Rubber Ball, plus Dodai is much, much, much faster than her)
Dodai > Kiba: High-Extreme (Will explain why if needed)
Dodai >/< Lee: Link me to Lee out-speeding TSB? Was it with Kyuubi cloak? If that's the case Lee prob wins.
Dodai > Neji: Mid-High
Doda < Hebi Sasuke: Raiton doesn't > Rubber btw. If so Nukite would have easily pierced through it, Lava release isn't weak to Lightning fam.
Dodai < SM Naruto: Without Summons this actually isn't a stomp believe it or not. Rasengans can be tanked, and I'm willing to argue Rasenshuriken can be tanked w/ Rubber as it took on Madara's meteorite impact with no difficulty.
Dodai > Kimimaro: High-Extreme (Willing to argue Rubber > Kimimaro's KKG in durability)
Dodai < Third Raikage willing to argue, the dude already outmaneuvered him greatly, and I didn't even list all his speed feats. Tho Third Raikage wins more than not.
Dodai > Mei: This would be a good match. Though I believe Dodai can pull off the W. High-Extreme
Dodai > 3T Kakashi: Dodai murks Kakashi so bad.. I think Dodai is a sensor not sure, I thought I read so, doubt I'm correct. Kakashi w/o Genjutsu gets wrecked though.
Dodai > Tsunade: He's faster than her imo. He murks her because Taijutsu doesn't work on rubber unless it's penetrative, and has enough force eg; Three Finger Nukite.
Dodai vs Fourth Kazekage not even sure who the winner is. Dodai can summon as much Rubber as he wants, and the Fourth Kazekage can summon as much Gold Dust as he wants. Rubber > Gold Dust though, and would be able to contain any of the Kazekage's gold dust assaults while Dodai would attempt to get closer. Though if he goes airborne Dodai loses.

Rubber is actually an insulator in regards to Lightning btw. So Rubber > Lightning.

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Lee outspeding TSB

Disagree with:

-Ligthining does cut trough rubber. It bounced from the thirds punch because that's exactly what Kabuto wanted, a punch, not a pierce, that's why Aylll didn't use nukite. We later see the raikage cutting the rubber ball. Sasuke and Kakashi can both use raikiri to pierce trough it.

-Dodai can't really hurt Tsunade. He gets outlasted. And tsunade can't be restrained with rubber since she destroys it. She cutted clean trough a susano sword so she can cut clean trough rubber.

-Rubber being insulator doesn't mean it can tank lightining based attacks, it only means it doesn't conduct it's electricity.

 

[DrProof]

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Lee outspeding TSB

Disagree with:

-Ligthining does cut trough rubber. It bounced from the thirds punch because that's exactly what Kabuto wanted, a punch, not a pierce, that's why Aylll didn't use nukite. We later see the raikage cutting the rubber ball. Sasuke and Kakashi can both use raikiri to pierce trough it.

-Dodai can't really hurt Tsunade. He gets outlasted. And tsunade can't be restrained with rubber since she destroys it. She cutted clean trough a susano sword so she can cut clean trough rubber.

-Rubber being insulator doesn't mean it can tank lightining based attacks, it only means it doesn't conduct it's electricity.

Lee beats Dodai then.

The elemental chart states Wind > Lightning due to it being an insulator, same principle applies to Rubber. It tanks lightning-based techniques.

Tsunade can't break through Rubber, she needs to generate momentum to do so. It'd be useless, with limited range the Rubbers' elastic properties won't stretch far, to break rubber one must outstretch its limits, and to do so one needs to generate momentum, in which Tsunade will not have in an enclosed space.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

True, but do you 100% believe those techniques > Third Raikages three finger Nukite? If so then yes they will break through.

Um, yes... what do you have suggesting it's not? Based off what part one Kiba did against the Rashomon Gate, I'd say even he'd be capable of drilling through the Doton techniques that the 4 finger nukite did. Now amplify that to how much stronger War-Arc Kiba has gotten since then, then 3x that, and I'd say it's easily on par with three finger nukite.

Lee beats Dodai then.

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Should of added Haku to the gauntlet. He'd win also.

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[DrProof]

Um, yes... what do you have suggesting it's not? Based off what part one Kiba did against the Rashomon Gate, I'd say even he'd be capable of drilling through the Doton techniques that the 4 finger nukite did. Now amplify that to how much stronger War-Arc Kiba has gotten since then, then 3x that, and I'd say it's easily on par with three finger nukite.



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Should of added Haku to the gauntlet. He'd win also. u_u

Haku would get f*cked. Mid-High bruh bruh.

So Kiba takes more than not. Though I still believe Dodai can win, the dudes analytical, and tactic asf.

 

[Forbidden Technique]

Haku would get f*cked. Mid-High bruh bruh.

So Kiba takes more than not. Though I still believe Dodai can win, the dudes analytical, and tactic asf.

People always catching me before my edits, smh.

Rubber freezes and loses it's elastic properties, bruh bruh. Instant transportation at the speed of light GG's.

Kibas an absolute savage. I don't see anything within this dude capabilites that would even put Kiba down, much less protect him.

 

[EZQ]

Lee beats Dodai then.

The elemental chart states Wind > Lightning due to it being an insulator, same principle applies to Rubber. It tanks lightning-based techniques.

Tsunade can't break through Rubber, she needs to generate momentum to do so. It'd be useless, with limited range the Rubbers' elastic properties won't stretch far, to break rubber one must outstretch its limits, and to do so one needs to generate momentum, in which Tsunade will not have in an enclosed space.

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Lightining cuts clean trough it. When it bounced from Aylll it was because it wasn't "sharp" lightining, it was lightining enhaced punch, which doesn't pierce. Both Sasuke and Kakashi can replicate that with chidori spear and raiden.

Tsunade doesn't need to gain momentum, barely by concetratinc chakra on her hand she sliced a susano sword

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[solorflare99]

Logically Lightning release > Lava release. Lava equal Earth + Fire. Lightning > Earth, and Fire and Lightning have no advantage or disadvantage over each other.

 

[DrProof]

Logically Lightning release > Lava release. Lava equal Earth + Fire. Lightning > Earth, and Fire and Lightning have no advantage or disadvantage over each other.

Not when RUBBER is its natural insulator.

 

[solorflare99]

Not when RUBBER is its natural insulator.

The logic of The Nature transformation laws, were never logical according to real world application. I'm simply apply logic to something illogical. Also evident by Sasuke/Omoi vs Deidara, even just one element's chakra coming in contact with another to another element's chakra causes a reaction, regardless of it being standard element or Kekkei Genkei. Also remember it isn't lightning, it is lightning chakra which is different. For example Raiton Armor and Chidori don't electrocute enemies unless it is applied by the user to do so, how ever the jutsu clearly looks like electricity. There seems to be a balance in nature transformations. Nature:Chakra. Take for example Danzo and Asuma. They both us Fuuton chakra enhanced weapons, however Danzo's actually looks more like wind while Asuma's look's more like chakra.

 

[ToshiZO]

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Lee outspeding TSB

Disagree with:

-Ligthining does cut trough rubber. It bounced from the thirds punch because that's exactly what Kabuto wanted, a punch, not a pierce, that's why Aylll didn't use nukite. We later see the raikage cutting the rubber ball. Sasuke and Kakashi can both use raikiri to pierce trough it.

-Dodai can't really hurt Tsunade. He gets outlasted. And tsunade can't be restrained with rubber since she destroys it. She cutted clean trough a susano sword so she can cut clean trough rubber.

-Rubber being insulator doesn't mean it can tank lightining based attacks, it only means it doesn't conduct it's electricity.

If this is the case he loses to Asuma as well.

Solid thread though...been sleeping on this guy.

 

[Curse Mark]

I'm actually going to make an analysis thread on this guy. He's pretty OP for a support character. His defense is Top tier imo.

Link it.

When Tsunade comes to attack Dodai, Dodai could counter by trapping her face with a rubber bubble similar to what Suigetsu did to Juugo thus suffocating her. I doubt chakra scalpel is superior to four fingered nukite so Tsunade can't cut her way out and will eventually suffocate to death. Furthermore, Dodai's rope could restrain her limbs.

Rubber is made out of chakra so by inserting chakra into the rubber, it should cause the rubber to decompose. Unlike Kidomaru, Dodai can't pressure Neji with long ranged attacks.

I agree that current Kiba can slice through the rubber but slicing through CM2 isn't a good argument because 4 fingered nukite can do that as well but failed to pierce rubber. Morning peacock's best feat is destroying water sharks which get destroyed by air pressure and killing 30% Kisame. Rubber should be resistant to fire to a great extent especially when it is far superior to doton which can casually tank most if not all katon. Not to mention nukite is better at breaching defences due to being far more focussed than Asakujaku.

Dodai's tech is lava like mei's. He can spit it like she spits lava.

 

[Icelerate]

Dodai shits on Taijutsu users. What's even worse is that he can produce rubber from his bodies pores. He's basically impervious to anything that's Taijutsu.

That doesn't mean he can beat all taijutsu users.

Underlined isn't correct, and doesn't make sense. That's like saying adding chakra to Gaara's sand will make it decompose. No bro.

Gaara's sand is a physical substance but Gaara ends up adding chakra to it to make it faster and more durable but even without chakra it still exists. On the other hand, Dodai's lava is made out of chakra and without chakra, it can't exist because originally it was formed via ninjutsu unlike Gaara's sand. Neji himself states things made of chakra can be destroyed by chakra (

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Current Kiba slicing through Rubber is a no also, the rubber is an elastic substance, the more Kiba spins, the more he'll be engulfed in the rubbery, elastic substance - Slowing his movements, well as restricting them. In the end rubber can only be countered by straight forward, linear piercing movements eg; three-finger Nukite.

That's a no limit fallacy. If Kiba is spinning too fast, he won't get slowed down much and would drill through it with ease while utilizing three headed wolf. FT already showcased its level of power but just to let you know, it

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without losing momentum.

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enough not to get obliterated by a

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much like Dodai's rubber but weaker. Also keep in mind the speed at which Kiba travels while attacking and you'll realize he'll drill through it faster than get engulfed and trapped.

I wasn't being all the way serious, Ice. Was simply going by One Piece logic - heat and slicing/cutting attacks>>>rubber. Does this apply to Naruto? Possibly to an extent. Kiba most definitely should have no problem slicing through Dodai's defenses... I don't think anyone here understands how powerful he is. Enel was heating up his attacks with his DF powers, and burning Luffy. Not too sure how Dodai's rubber would hold up against Morning Peacock, which isn't simply fire. It is a

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. It was stated that the bodies produced by Peins jutsu was identical to the original, meaning the real Kisames durability should apply. Morning Peacock is extremely powerful given the fact that it one shotted Kisame.

Kiba can only slice through Dodai's defences by using three headed wolf. If he uses two headed wolf, the fight would be a stalemate but base Kiba would get destroyed. Overall Kiba wins mid difficulty. Not too familiar with OP fights but lightning is supposed to be hotter than fire. Asakujaku is a shockwave but I'm pretty sure rubber can soften up the shockwave part of the attack

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. Shockwaves aren't good at breaching elastic defences anyway. The fire part of the attack can burn the surface of the rubber ball but Dodai himself would be unharmed as the fire can't breach through the defence. Luffy getting burnt doesn't mean much because Dodai's rubber getting burnt doesn't mean he himself gets burnt. Dodai isn't the target unlike Luffy and won't get hit. Rubber is a poor heat conductor so Dodai isn't getting burned from the inside even if the outside of the rubber ball heats up. Kisame's durability is such that he gets

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. Shark teeth will fail to pierce Dodai's rubber sphere.

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Lightining cuts clean trough it. When it bounced from Aylll it was because it wasn't "sharp" lightining, it was lightining enhaced punch, which doesn't pierce. Both Sasuke and Kakashi can replicate that with chidori spear and raiden.

3rd Raikage used the four fingered

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but once he came across the rubber wall, the

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shows 3rd Raikage reverting to the three fingered hell stab to pierce through. Sasuke and Kakashi's raiton are at best only as powerful as 3rd Raikage's four fingered nukite so they can't pierce through Dodai's rubber wall. You did show that the four fingered nukite can slice through Dodai's rubber sphere so Sasuke and Kakashi's chidori/Raikiri can probably do so as well but not chidori sharp spear or chidori katana which is weaker than regular chidori which is weaker than 4 fingered hell stab.

Tsunade doesn't need to gain momentum, barely by concetratinc chakra on her hand she sliced a susano sword

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Tsunade's limbs weren't restrained but they will be if Dodai encases her with rubber after dousing her entire body with the lava.

Dodai's tech is lava like mei's. He can spit it like she spits lava.

Well unlike Mei's lava, it turns into rubber so it isn't as hot as her's nor does he have the same corrosive nature as Kurotsuchi and Mei's lava release. Unless the databook says something which I haven't seen. Though yes if Dodai shoots it at you, he can encase you in rubber.

 

[Curse Mark]

That doesn't mean he can beat all taijutsu users.

Gaara's sand is a physical substance but Gaara ends up adding chakra to it to make it faster and more durable but even without chakra it still exists. On the other hand, Dodai's lava is made out of chakra and without chakra, it can't exist because originally it was formed via ninjutsu unlike Gaara's sand. Neji himself states things made of chakra can be destroyed by chakra (

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That's a no limit fallacy. If Kiba is spinning too fast, he won't get slowed down much and would drill through it with ease while utilizing three headed wolf. FT already showcased its level of power but just to let you know, it

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without losing momentum.

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enough not to get obliterated by a

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. They even show

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much like Dodai's rubber but weaker. Also keep in mind the speed at which Kiba travels while attacking and you'll realize he'll drill through it faster than get engulfed and trapped.

Kiba can only slice through Dodai's defences by using three headed wolf. If he uses two headed wolf, the fight would be a stalemate but base Kiba would get destroyed. Overall Kiba wins mid difficulty. Not too familiar with OP fights but lightning is supposed to be hotter than fire. Asakujaku is a shockwave but I'm pretty sure rubber can soften up the shockwave part of the attack

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. Shockwaves aren't good at breaching elastic defences anyway. The fire part of the attack can burn the surface of the rubber ball but Dodai himself would be unharmed as the fire can't breach through the defence. Luffy getting burnt doesn't mean much because Dodai's rubber getting burnt doesn't mean he himself gets burnt. Dodai isn't the target unlike Luffy and won't get hit. Rubber is a poor heat conductor so Dodai isn't getting burned from the inside even if the outside of the rubber ball heats up. Kisame's durability is such that he gets

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. Shark teeth will fail to pierce Dodai's rubber sphere.

3rd Raikage used the four fingered

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but once he came across the rubber wall, the

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. The

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shows 3rd Raikage reverting to the three fingered hell stab to pierce through. Sasuke and Kakashi's raiton are at best only as powerful as 3rd Raikage's four fingered nukite so they can't pierce through Dodai's rubber wall. You did show that the four fingered nukite can slice through Dodai's rubber sphere so Sasuke and Kakashi's chidori/Raikiri can probably do so as well but not chidori sharp spear or chidori katana which is weaker than regular chidori which is weaker than 4 fingered hell stab.

Tsunade's limbs weren't restrained but they will be if Dodai encases her with rubber after dousing her entire body with the lava.

Well unlike Mei's lava, it turns into rubber so it isn't as hot as her's nor does he have the same corrosive nature as Kurotsuchi and Mei's lava release. Unless the databook says something which I haven't seen. Though yes if Dodai shoots it at you, he can encase you in rubber.

No idea what you're arguing against what i said as it seems we agree.
"Dodai has no long range"
"Dodai actually does have mid-long range"
"But its not corrosive"
i never said it was...

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Haven't looked into the specifics yet but there is nothing Lee or Kiba are doing to Dodai (love to see the character representation btw, keeps this forum going)

Neji might have a counter and may be enough? But I say he stops at Sage Naruto. A rasenshuriken would atomically destructure it no matter how durable his rubber is, with the crazy Sage moveset that goes with it and defeated Pain & Third Raikage...yeah, Sage Naruto wins for sure.

Dodai is ridiculously cool and pretty strong but primarily a support ninja. I'd rank him alongside Roshi.